List Mgmt. 2024 AFL Draft

[Ford Fairlane]

Thanks to Lore for this great resource

 

[Haggas]

Should we be stocking up on a couple of kpp whilst we get the chance?

No, we clearly have no midfield depth

 

[philthy05]

We just used a future first round pick on Jack Lukosius. Our last 20 years of drafting says it’s highly unlikely we also use a first round pick on a key position player no matter how good they are.

Eh. I think they’ll have a draft board and if they work off of that. If they rate Armstrong as a top 10 player and the first 9 are off the board, I think they take him.

Of course it’s not black and white or an exact science, and players could be rated around the mark together and might lean to another position.

Tho I would be surprised if they take a kpf with our first pick, as I think rich or saints will take Armstrong, and port will likely like the collection of mids / runners available at our pick.

We have lost 1 kf to retirement , Scully is almost certain to be cut (I disagree with that tho) 2 kfs hang by a knife edge (Todd , Finny),

That’s potentially 4 kfs going out the door in short order. And teams will be after lord again.

I think we’ve only got 2 guaranteed kfs right now.

I don’t think we should either. Lukosious, Marshall (if ok), gerogiades, finlayson and lord is ample ready to play talls.

If they like gerryn as the developing ruck/powerful forward with one of the later 2 picks that would be ok.

I would have thought they would be desperate for best available mid.

We do have a need for a genuine on baller to develop.

 

[shewho]

Eh. I think they’ll have a draft board and if they work off of that. If they rate Armstrong as a top 10 player and the first 9 are off the board, I think they take him.

Of course it’s not black and white or an exact science, and players could be rated around the mark together and might lean to another position.

Tho I would be surprised if they take a kpf with our first pick, as I think rich or saints will take Armstrong, and port will likely like the collection of mids / runners available at our pick.

We have lost 1 kf to retirement , Scully is almost certain to be cut (I disagree with that tho) 2 kfs hang by a knife edge (Todd , Finny),

That’s potentially 4 kfs going out the door in short order. And teams will be after lord again.

I think we’ve only got 2 guaranteed kfs right now.







We do have a need for a genuine on baller to develop.

I think we are targeting Cochrane in a few years to add to our midfield.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Think Bo Allan can (eventually) replace Wines as the big bodied inside bull?

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

I think we are targeting Cochrane in a few years to add to our midfield.

Isn't he projected to be in the running for the No.1 pick in 2026 draft? Callum Twomey bookmarked him to be the No.1 pick. Would be great if the AFL approved him to be in Port's NGA academy AND we get the rights to draft him. 194cm and could potentially be taller come draft night.

 

[RangaInTeal]

if we get a tall forward like Armstrong, Tom Scully will get the axe. Same with Kyle Marshall if we draft a tall defender.

I think we need a small lockdown defender who can take on the speedy small forwards. Lachie Jones is not the answer for me.

Might also need another wingman since I don’t think Boak should be guaranteed a spot in the starting 22; 23 sub.

We’re well stocked with half-backs and if we get Rome Burgoyne and maybe Louie Montgomery as F/S as rookie picks. That’ll be the best case scenario.

Don’t think we need to draft anymore small forwards for now especially with Joe Richards coming in and Benny Barrett as an NGA selection and as a Cat B rookie in the best case scenario.

Might need to draft a mid but who I wonder since Wines is coming towards the backend of his career and there isn’t much coming through the two’s. Mead isn’t the big bodied midfielder and Jackson and Lorenz are more outside players.

It’s a shame that Soldo couldn’t be traded because I wouldn’t have minded Dodson but since Soldo is still there, it’s not the most wisest thing to draft another ruck since that would mean less development time for Dante.

Soldo doesn’t want to be here, we signed him to a 3 year deal and you would think end of next year we are looking to off load him again. If Dodson is there at 29, which I highly doubt, but you must grab him regardless of list make up. He could play on any line on the ground, he and Visintini could set us up for the next 10 years 2028-2038ish.

Unsure if you have seen much of Jackson but, although looking like a 15 year old school boy, is not an ‘outside’ player. He spreads and accumulates well from stoppage but moves through traffic as well as anyone on our list. He isn’t a Bull like Wines, or as explosive as JHF, but his elite skill is work through traffic. He is a stoppage specialist.

As each day comes and passes, Hotton is growing on me. Hope Gerreyn makes his way to us, Barrett and Burgoyne are the two I hope we grab, hopefully young Monty is keen to try his hand like Evans did and work towards a mid year selection.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Isn't he projected to be in the running for the No.1 pick in 2026 draft? Callum Twomey bookmarked him to be the No.1. Would be great if the AFL approved him to be in Port's NGA academy AND we get the rights to draft him. 194cm and could potentially be taller come draft night.

Heard he is looking to head to Africa to do some volunteer farm work to provide for the starving children in Zambia? Is sick of the social constructs being a promising Junior footballer trying to finish school.

Also heard he was caught with Grog and 14 girls in his 2 man tent on a school camping expedition…

…

 

[Rash]

I hope we dont pick Tobbie Travaglia (if we do not see him moving into the midfield in a few years) or Xavier Linsay

 

[Macca19]

We just used a future first round pick on Jack Lukosius. Our last 20 years of drafting says it’s highly unlikely we also use a first round pick on a key position player no matter how good they are.

Very true but, our KPF depth is on a knifes edge. If one of Armstrong/Shanahan is available at 13, then we should probably pick them, then go for one of the smalls second, whether thats a Moraes, Urquhart, Hynes possibly could fall, Day-Wicks etc.

Having said that, some of Sims, Faull, Whitlock, Gerryn will be there with our second too

 

[SureBuddy]

It is really great to see that the battling Lions get not only the #1 pick for free as F/S, but also another top 20 NGA for free. Should hopefully help them be competitive and move up the ladder over the next few years.

 

[PJ Power]

It is really great to see that the battling Lions get not only the #1 pick for free as F/S, but also another top 20 NGA for free. Should hopefully help them be competitive and move up the ladder over the next few years.

Yep, just like the Will Ashcroft / Fletcher year.

Meanwhile, we still haven't had a superstar father-son. Jase Burgoyne is tracking well, but you'd love to have a top-end F-S or two after all these years.

 

[PJ Power]

There's certainly going to be a lot of quality to choose from at pick 13. We need to make sure the player we get "makes" it though. Can't afford to stuff this up.

You'd love to have a couple of top 15 picks and get both Hotton and Armstrong.

 

[philthy05]

Very true but, our KPF depth is on a knifes edge. If one of Armstrong/Shanahan is available at 13, then we should probably pick them, then go for one of the smalls second, whether thats a Moraes, Urquhart, Hynes possibly could fall, Day-Wicks etc.

Having said that, some of Sims, Faull, Whitlock, Gerryn will be there with our second too

What’s the feeling like of the gap between the top talls that will go around first and the next group that we might have a shot at around 29 /36?


Gerryn in his highlights moved exactly like Scott lycett to me. Even looked like he’s gonna be built the same when he’s done. Without watching him play games I’m not overly sold on him being a kf.

It is really great to see that the battling Lions get not only the #1 pick for free as F/S, but also another top 20 NGA for free. Should hopefully help them be competitive and move up the ladder over the next few years.

The absolute stupidity of having academies for these clubs and being told they’re necessary for those teams to develop talent , while they’re producing more high end talent than Sa, while Sa doesn’t get to do the same.

Like ok, I get the logical argument of “we need them to produce more talent “ but following that logic once they’re producing more talent than a heartland state the same logic says it either end or now that heartland state should get academies.




QLD is on track to produce 4 top 10 players in 2 years, with Sa producing 1.

There’s no sign of that just being a blip either.





Also, while Sa talent tend to go up and down a bit year to year I think we can all agree the state produces far less high end talent than we used to,,, and we can argue whether it’s casual or not but gee the timeline of taking ports development zones away lines up pretty well eh?

 

[PJ Power]

Gerryn in his highlights moved exactly like Scott lycett to me. Even looked like he’s gonna be built the same when he’s done. Without watching him play games I’m not overly sold on him being a kf.

I thought exactly the same when watching Gerryn. Maybe it's just his physical appearance (face, body size and shape) but he does look like Lycett. To be fair, he seems a better forward than Lycett was. I'm ok with using pick 36 on him if we have used our two prior picks on small-mid sized players (e.g., mids / forwards).

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Very true but, our KPF depth is on a knifes edge. If one of Armstrong/Shanahan is available at 13, then we should probably pick them, then go for one of the smalls second, whether thats a Moraes, Urquhart, Hynes possibly could fall, Day-Wicks etc.

Having said that, some of Sims, Faull, Whitlock, Gerryn will be there with our second too

Is it though?

I'd argue that Georgiades, Luko and Lord is better than both Collingwood and Melbourne won flags with.

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[philthy05]

Is it though?

Id argue that Georgiades, Luko and Lord is better than both Collinhwood and Melbourne won flags with.

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Maybe, but port has to be 20% better than those teams just to break even.




We all know that if we had collingwood or melbs list here for the past decade we wouldn’t have won a gf.

 

[VineValerian]

I thought exactly the same when watching Gerryn. Maybe it's just his physical appearance (face, body size and shape) but he does look like Lycett. To be fair, he seems a better forward than Lycett was. I'm ok with using pick 36 on him if we have used our two prior picks on small-mid sized players (e.g., mids / forwards).

The highlights I saw showed him as agile, clean below the knees, and able to kick both feet.
Does physically resemble Scooter, but reckon he's a tad more athletic and skillful.

 

[RangaInTeal]

The highlights I saw showed him as agile, clean below the knees, and able to kick both feet.
Does physically resemble Scooter, but reckon he's a tad more athletic and skillful.

I think in a professional environment, focused HEAVILY on running for the first 4 years of his career, opposed to the weights centric outlook West Coast had may hold him in a different shape over the course of his career.

 

[Addy23]

The highlights I saw showed him as agile, clean below the knees, and able to kick both feet.
Does physically resemble Scooter, but reckon he's a tad more athletic and skillful.

Think I said it before but he reminds me of Rowan Marshall

 

[Rash]

picking a key forward (Armstrong/Shannahan) with our first pick would be stupid in my opinion

Due to they're speculative nature, you never know if they are going to be good or not, a Hotton, Tauru or Allan gives us much more security.

 

[Port2Power]

Regarding our picks:

Pick 13 will be pick 16 at worse due to F/S and academy bids (we will still have access to the same draftees as in pick 13 but everyone is just shifted down by 3 to make room for Levi Ashcroft, Leo Lombard, Isaac Kako who are all projected to go in the top 10)

Pick 29 will be around the same or pick 30 with the picks used for the F/S and academy bids (with picks 27, 28 eaten up) so goes down by 3 or come up by 2 based on the picks used to match.

Pick 36 will be around the same (plus or minus 2 spots)

Pick 50 will be the most affected and will be pulled down by 10 roughly so Pick 40
(Sam Marshall Lions & Ben Camporeale Carlton bids) this pick will be a huge swing in our favour with the picks in the 30's 40's & 50's eaten up after all the bids from the 4 various clubs.

Pick 94 - no one talks about this pick as its one of our last picks along with 112 & 130.
Pick 94 will be coming back into the 60s after bid matching and passing on picks. This pick could possibly used to match for Benny Barrett or Rome Burgoyne. If not these two can be rookie listed (Cat A & B)

The earlier picks we have won't be needed to match bids on our F/S's or NGA draftees as this draft is a strong draft and none of them were impressive throughout the season but rather had a good game here and there with no real consistency.

 

[philthy05]

I doubt if many picks before 29 will be used to match bids. Teams with picks before that will in all likelihood get offers to trade back.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Matthew Panos / Alex Panas

 

[Bennie the Nurse]

ACL isn't a big deal in itself. ( Robert Gray, Petracca, Gawn, James Sicily etc.)

Add to that list Old Duck Duck himself - Joel Selwood had an ACL the year of his draft, his durability wasn’t bad.

Due diligence of course.

Think the first concern is athletic ablity.
Then work ethic.
Football IQ.
Character.

Stats say he can play.

The effort he put into extra training to improve his aerobic capacity suggests work ethic.

Family has played AFL and Sandringham Dragons. I'm thinking there's an understanding of football there.

Character. Port can sort that out.

 

[Rash]

Im a big Joe Berry fan, hope we consider picking him