Autopsy 2024 AFL Season: Rnd 21 Saints v Lions

[Joffaboy]

Let's be honest with ourselves, we've had a few good wins of late, but we've also played a number of teams out of form.

Today was a bit od a reality check of where we are actually at.

They are much better and we just didn't turn up. 5 or 6 goal loss but not a 13 goal loss.
Pressure non existent

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[saintbill]

we should draft a half back flanker with our first selection

But we already have an elite half back in Bonner

 

[Sarcoidevo]

The equivalent of going into work tomorrow morning and finding a large cat has left a steaming turd on your desk or in your toolbox

Worst performance of the year

 

[Saintbloke]

As a unit, the midfield got spanked badly from the first bounce, I don't care if Pou looked ok or whatever, but maybe the midfield coach needs moving on, as does the forward coach, but who would want to be a forward with such a putrid midfield who can't get the ball to them. I doubt if Richo or Ratts would have had such a poor result.

 

[EddieMurphy]

So the wallper thing didn't work. 2 or 3 more good drafts before we rise up the ladder. Gotta replace 6 or so I think? Need a monster ruck (ROMA a big mid), 3x mids, another tall back and another tall fwd.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Time to give Carl Jr a run

 

[MUFKilda]

Not long out of bed here in England on a Sunday morning.



Checks score.





Goes back to bed.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Brizzy are red hot and we couldn't match them. Roma got absolutely spanked and their mids are excellent.
I'm not at all phased, it's just obvious we need better mids.

 

[tomjoad]

Actually quite pleased with that.

After the win against Sydney, we didn’t need Max anymore.

After the loss to Adelaide, silence.

Then we rebound against Eagles, play better without max blah blah.

Smash the bombers, again no need for Max, Sharman and Caminiti play better without him.

Brisbane, silence.

Can we just all agree we bloody need to get a lot better, Max is going to be a huge part of that.

Whether we like it or not, yes, Max will be a part of it. I'm not sure he'll help one way or the other...but yes, he'll be a part of whatever occurs...be it if any significance whatsoever, or not.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Club had completely checked out - I hate to say the 'T' word but it was pretty obvious.

 

[tomjoad]

Not long out of bed here in England on a Sunday morning.



Checks score.





Goes back to bed.

Yep, I hear ya. Missed the first quarter, saw the score, made a coffee...put some rashers on, fed the cat, patted the dog. Made tea for the Mrs. Went upstairs and read some of my book, had a play wrestle with my kid, and checked the final score.
No need to watch that shite...if they're not going to bother, why should I?

 

[The Cobra]

They aren’t robots so sometimes this happens - but shocking performance up there with the Bulldogs game. Undid all the good work over the last month or so.

Sincs, NAS, Pou & McLennan can hold their heads up. Difficult for the forwards tonight given the quantity & quality of entries. The rest need to have a good hard look at themselves.

Smashed in the clearances & contested ball - very difficult to win (or be competitive) when you are always chasing.

Right now Lions are probably marching to the Premiership - so understandably we were beaten - but not competitive from the first bounce. The difference between the quantity and quality of midfielders we have and they have is of Grand Canyon proportions!

The best way for the coaches to deal with this is to tell them tonight in no uncertain terms that they didn’t go hard enough & do a quick debrief showing the failings tomorrow - otherwise never mention it again & get back to hard work on the track.

 

[stfan]

As a game to tank to obtain as good a draft pick as possible it was a masterful display with 5 per cent knocked to guard against us drawing level on points with another team.


Also very good was Guses first game. Very good considering how badly the team was playing.


But apart from that what a pathetic shitshow of lack of effort, poor decisions and fumbles and turnovers.


Congrats to the Lions on showing how football should be played.

 

[puppy_dog7]

I’m almost at the point where we consider exploring the option of trading Steele. Only one with 1st round draft pick currency.

Go into next year with a midfield of Pou, Owens, Windhager, Henry, Sincs, Wilson, Clark & Garcia and our 2 1st round mids… Ross, Dow, Jones as experienced depth.

It could be painful for a year or 2 but we need to develop and be aggressive before Tassie come in and ruin the party.

Hopefully by 2027 we’ll have a strong young midfield core with experienced forwards in King, Sharman and Caminiti.

We can’t keep half arsing these rebuilds.

 

[tomjoad]

I thought Stocker tried hard all night. McLennan looked okay. Roma had a good last quarter.
That's about all the positivity I can find.

 

[Jade Buddha]

No point in getting upset with that. The players aren’t

 

[NoisyMinor]

Philippou standing up and Bonner getting sent a message at half time the only positives.

 

[saintsrfreak]

Can't see how we'd be better off signing Battle on $800-900k a year, rather than letting him go for a top pick to try and sort out this midfield. He's a decent player but we need as many lotto tickets as we can get to try and fix this.

 

[Miha]

I’m almost at the point where we consider exploring the option of trading Steele. Only one with 1st round draft pick currency.

Go into next year with a midfield of Pou, Owens, Windhager, Henry, Sincs, Wilson, Clark & Garcia and our 2 1st round mids… Ross, Dow, Jones as experienced depth.

It could be painful for a year or 2 but we need to develop and be aggressive before Tassie come in and ruin the party.

Hopefully by 2027 we’ll have a strong young midfield core with experienced forwards in King, Sharman and Caminiti.

We can’t keep half arsing these rebuilds.

They don’t see Owens as a mid sadly

 

[MickG88]

Actually quite pleased with that.

After the win against Sydney, we didn’t need Max anymore.

After the loss to Adelaide, silence.

Then we rebound against Eagles, play better without max blah blah.

Smash the bombers, again no need for Max, Sharman and Caminiti play better without him.

Brisbane, silence.

Can we just all agree we bloody need to get a lot better, Max is going to be a huge part of that.

Yes, couldn't be truer. Against weak backlines we look good but Andrews and co just ragdolled us all game.

 

[Miha]

Can't see how we'd be better off signing Battle on $800-900k a year, rather than letting him go for a top pick to try and sort out this midfield. He's a decent player but we need as many lotto tickets as we can get to try and fix this.

Agreed

 

[MUFKilda]

You know what, for a few reasons I haven’t had time to watch nearly as much footy this year, but that might have been a lucky break. I really do admire you Sainters who watch every minute of it year after year after year. You guys go above and beyond loyalty. I get frustrated as a casual fan on the other side of the world who has no former connection to the club. I can’t imagine the mental anguish most have you have experienced supporting this club. No supporters (perhaps with North) deserve some good times more than you.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

33 disposals, 13 clearances
Hugh McCluggage

6

Hugh Mccluggage

Age

26

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.3

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

19.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.0

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

28, nine clearances, one goal
Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

20, seven clearances

lowest score ever against the lions

 

[Xxxx66]

They don’t see Owens as a mid sadly

Played mid most of first half and just couldn't get near it. Would need to train it pre season. Average year for him but looks better suited forward unfortunately

 

[Cairnsman]

Tanking for sure