List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[TheMase]

I get this is a hypothetical thread but can some suggestions at least make some sense? we just signed Logan to a 2yr deal, Amartey a 3yr deal and Mclean 4yrs.

We arent shipping either of them

Logan signed a 4 year deal (2028)
McLean has 3 to go (2027), Amartey 2 (2026).

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Were you replying to my post by mistake? I said we shouldn't be moving him to defence.

Yes, apologies - I wasn’t disagreeing with you.

I’ve come to see Logan as a half forward / wing, not a key anything.

 

[tombomb]

Yes, apologies - I wasn’t disagreeing with you.

I’ve come to see Logan as a half forward / wing, not a key anything.

Well he is 22 and still developing, but he isn't there yet. But I think he is our best chance at ending up with a 50+goal kicker unless someone new comes along.

 

[Membling]

I see it differently.

Logan’s deficiency is his strength and pack marking.

His positives are his athleticism and tank (plus footy smarts and a decent kick).

He’s suited to getting around the ground.

Not really what you’re after in a KPD.

Which is weird as he was clunking everything as an 18yo in WAFL seniors

 

[Wheresbuddy]

I understand the hurt and frustration we are feeling after yesterday. By virtue of the fact we are on here posting, we are all massively invested in our team. They let us down with a piss poor performance yesterday, comprehensively beaten across the park.

But the reality is the bulk, if not all of the players being mentioned as trade bait are going nowhere. They either have no currency or no viable replacement. They are also the same team that got us to 2 GFs in 3 years so clearly are not devoid of talent. I say look at the coaching, tactics, preparation and team selection.

 

[TheMase]

Which is weird as he was clunking everything as an 18yo in WAFL seniors

I could be wrong, but my memory of that was largely him outsmarting defenders at that level rather than taking genuine contested pack marks.

Could be wrong.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

So we need to see whether Grundy can recover - how long did we sign him for ?

Grundy was good yesterday

 

[Tedeski]

I think Logan the defender is a possibility

I'm sort of wondering if he'd be a lock down and free up T Mc to intercept or whether he can intercept

We never really replaced Paddy

T Mac can’t mark when he needs to.
Can’t spoil when he needs to.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Which is weird as he was clunking everything as an 18yo in WAFL seniors

Actually he wasn’t. He mainly took marks on long leads, not pack marks.

He was a class above in the colts. But some of his key battles that really had recruiters pay attention were with DGB, who hasn’t exactly set the world on fire.

But Logan is still 21, on an upward trajectory & I don’t class him among our primary problems moving forward. He has plenty of positive attributes.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Grundy was good yesterday

Ha, LP1, sometimes you do come up with some zingers.

 

[Tedeski]

I think Logan the defender is a possibility

I'm sort of wondering if he'd be a lock down and free up T Mc to intercept or whether he can intercept

We never really replaced Paddy

Paddy played no better in the 2022 GF
Than yesterday’s lot.
Same failing structures which indicates a game plan issue.

 

[Kbroome]

Ha, LP1, sometimes you do come up with some zingers.

He was good he was winning the hit outs just that our midfield had a stinker.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Ha, LP1, sometimes you do come up with some zingers.

Had 22 possessions yesterday he wasn’t bad. Let’s just say Heeney had 14…

 

[Kbroome]

Had 22 possessions yesterday he wasn’t bad. Let’s just say Heeney had 14…

22 possessions 36 hitouts including 15 hit outs to advantage.

 

[melbournehammer]

Grundy was good yesterday

Grundy beat the second stringer.

But the vital wins were foot beating Grundy straight after their first goal which foot took out of the ruck and kicked forward for their second and Daniher doing the same after their sixth leading to their seventh.

On both occasions ball taken out or ruck against Grundy and kicked forward for a goal.

Man I think Daniher did that to Grundy in the first and he missed the shot.

Grundy might have done better than his opponent but in the key moments or the moments that mattered he was beaten.

And Jordan sweet destroyed him

I like Grundy but he’s not going to ever be good for a whole season as a ruckman and I’m assuming we’ve ruled the line through ladhams.

 

[SM]

Grundy beat the second stringer.

But the vital wins were foot beating Grundy straight after their first goal which foot took out of the ruck and kicked forward for their second and Daniher doing the same after their sixth leading to their seventh.

On both occasions ball taken out or ruck against Grundy and kicked forward for a goal.

Man I think Daniher did that to Grundy in the first and he missed the shot.

Grundy might have done better than his opponent but in the key moments or the moments that mattered he was beaten.

And Jordan sweet destroyed him

I like Grundy but he’s not going to ever be good for a whole season as a ruckman and I’m assuming we’ve ruled the line through ladhams.

Do you mean fort? You keep talking about foot and I have no idea who you mean.

 

[melbournehammer]

Do you mean fort? You keep talking about foot and I have no idea who you mean.

My typing is terrible. Sorry

 

[Kbroome]

Do you mean fort? You keep talking about foot and I have no idea who you mean.

I mean Foot did allow Fort to take it out of the ruck through bumping Grundy front on completely out of the contest

 

[LukeParkerno1]

22 possessions 36 hitouts including 15 hit outs to advantage.

That’s a good game not his fault Warner kept kicking it to Lions blokes all first half

 

[SM]

That’s a good game not his fault Warner kept kicking it to Lions blokes all first half

Blakey too.

 

[melbournehammer]

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Blakey too.

Don’t get me started on that bloke does so much right yet is good for 2-3 clangers that cost goals every time

 

[melbournehammer]

I’m not super techno literate but these two kicks straight out of the middle led to goals . The first put paid to the start, the second compounding the collapse which was occurring.

 

[hairy biker]

Not sure why there seems to be so much focus on Grundy.
He had 18 contested possessions, only Neale had as many (also18). Next best for us was Rowbottom with 12.
7 clearances only Rowbottom (10) had more for us.
6 score involvements (2nd best for Sydney).
36 HOs to the Lions total of 20.

Did get beaten a couple of times that lead directly to Brisbane goals (once after a clear block), and whilst not a dominant performance I thought he was one of the few that got a tick for his contribution.

 

[melbournehammer]

So from my perspective a ruckman might have an otherwise good game but if his opponent is taking the ball out of the ruck and getting it into dangerous areas quickly he’s having a few issues.

And both of these are against the lions 2nd and 3rd options