List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[ShireSwan]

It's been a longstanding thought process of mine (since sometime late Saturday afternoon), that the following is our best shot at a flag next year... not likely still.

• Mills and Sheldrick to mids
• Heeney still mids mostly, but don't wear him out
• Warner to half forward
• Fox back (where Mills would have been)
• Drop one of McLean/Amartey
• As agreed, Campbell, Cleary etc up fwd

Horse can get stuffed if he thinks we're winning one without these changes.

I like all of that as long as Warner spends half his time in the mids - with the instruction to actually go get the footy, not hang round the fringes like his name is Chad Wingard - which has got to be the instruction he had this year and last.

 

[Rhino5]

UFA so wouldn't have to give up anything other than a modest salary. I'd have him back for sure.

Same. Always bugged me that we let him go.

 

[Caj]

It's been a longstanding thought process of mine (since sometime late Saturday afternoon), that the following is our best shot at a flag next year... not likely still.

• Mills and Sheldrick to mids
• Heeney still mids mostly, but don't wear him out
• Warner to half forward
• Fox back (where Mills would have been)
• Drop one of McLean/Amartey
• As agreed, Campbell, Cleary etc up fwd

Horse can get stuffed if he thinks we're winning one without these changes.

Yep, this is spot on although Warner obviously in the mids rotation

 

[Caj]

Would also like to see:

Adams getting a chance as inside mid along with Sheldrick

Some player rotation throughout the season, particularly some younger guys getting some chances while our seniors are rested

Some experimentation, in particular a few different positional switches. Blakey forward is fine, it shouldn’t take being 10 goals down in a GF to come up with it

 

[Neverwas]

In the national champs last year clearances:
Reid 6.5
McKercher 5.5
Sanders 5.0
Cleary 4.1

And you have to remember that those last 3 played in the same side

I think this might be misleading. Cleary was the one getting in and under and getting the ball to McKercher and Sanders. It may be that these short taps and handballs were not counted as clearances.

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[RedBloodBlackSwan]

Reid was the last player we had at either end who could consistently take contested grabs. We desperately need someone now who can do that to help us clear the defensive half.

If Logan can’t become that player, we have a problem - he might be able to kick a nice pass from the wing, but we have players who can do that coming out of our ears, and they can also run all day.

 

[Neverwas]

Geelong has delisted Brandon Parfitt.

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[Swansujelly]

if geelong would take 17 and 18 for O'sullivan to help their own deals I would do it. Highly unlikely mind you

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Geelong has delisted Brandon Parfitt.

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Just no. Do not even consider least Matt Kennedy is AFL standard

 

[KingV23]

I don't care if our next recruiter becomes a woman, just as long as he or she is good at their job.

I read this when you posted it, but took me WAYYYYYY too long to get this joke

 

[LukeParkerno1]

if geelong would take 17 and 18 for O'sullivan to help their own deals I would do it. Highly unlikely mind you

Ya recon lol dead set a million to 1.

 

[caesar88]

Cleary has won a total of 3 clearances. Putting a lot of pressure on him. Same with Sheldrick they're not going to come in and revolutionise our mid in 1 season

In regards to revolutionizing the midfield, if we are to assume that Heeney & Rowbottom are the "immovables" as clearly our two best clearance and ball-winning players in there, then anyone else - Sheldrick, Mills, Adams, any potential trade recruits - only need to offer more than Warner & Gulden in this sense. Considering those two were 72nd & 77th in the comp respectively for clearances, and 75th & 73rd in the comp respectively for contested possessions... I would say it's actually not a massively high bar for any newcomer into the midfield mix to exceed. We just have to be willing to prioritise those things in the midfield.

 

[McRobie]

All Australian club captain who can play in a number of roles, is tied up until he is 32. How is that a bad contract? One injured season and people forget how valuable he is to the club

Until I see him play some decent football again it remains a bad contract imo. He looked awful this year. A liability at times.

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

Warner in for the receiver role split with Warner.

I’m not sure how I missed Warner

 

[SwansLifer]

Corey Warmer to throw a massive curve ball and request a trade to one of the WA clubs. That would put the Swans in a tough spot.

 

[Cadsky]

Corey Warmer to throw a massive curve ball and request a trade to one of the WA clubs. That would put the Swans in a tough spot.

You know something?

 

[KingV23]

Wtf is Corey Warner's role anyway

 

[Cadsky]

Wtf is Corey Warner's role anyway

To cuddle chad at night so he doesn't get lonely in Sydney.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Wtf is Corey Warner's role anyway

Inside mid

 

[SwansLifer]

You know something?

No not at all. Just wouldn't surprise me.

 

[caesar88]

To cuddle chad at night so he doesn't get lonely in Sydney.

They'd do well in the Tasmanian team

 

[ShireSwan]

In regards to revolutionizing the midfield, if we are to assume that Heeney & Rowbottom are the "immovables" as clearly our two best clearance and ball-winning players in there, then anyone else - Sheldrick, Mills, Adams, any potential trade recruits - only need to offer more than Warner & Gulden in this sense. Considering those two were 72nd & 77th in the comp respectively for clearances, and 75th & 73rd in the comp respectively for contested possessions... I would say it's actually not a massively high bar for any newcomer into the midfield mix to exceed. We just have to be willing to prioritise those things in the midfield.

Warner could be top 20 in the comp in his sleep if given the instruction. He was clearly told to hang about on the fringes.
I don't think we should be blaming him for Horse's stubborn refusal to value clearances.

As great a season as Heeney had in the midfield....he's also the only forward bar Haywood or Papley Capable of taking contested marks on a lead in the forward 50, so if Sheldrick can come in and do a job in the mids along with IDK Adams again....Heeney may be just as valuable to us up forward, though won't get the stats or Brownlow votes of this year.

 

[ShireSwan]

Wtf is Corey Warner's role anyway

Left Right Out

 

[ShireSwan]

Don't the players just love playing in front of nobody at Homebush?

Geeze another stampede out.
Can the AFL not give away 3000 pair tickets a game to junior footy players every week or do they do that, and nobody even bothers to turn up on a freebie?

 

[Jack2Jack]

GWS bit of a exodus makes a direct competitor a bit weaker. Daniher retiring is a big loss for the Lions although they're getting the no. 1 pick the other Ashcroft coming in essentially. Bar the club with the unlimited salary cap somehow bringing in a bunch of guns all the other clubs seemingly about to make the big list improvements from trade finished middle tier.

So while I'm skeptical that we'll be much good given the mental side, the talent is on the list and while I know there'll be no incoming stars hopefully we make a gain or 2 if we're serious about trying to stay top 4 ahead of these clubs. A shrewd pickup like we used to do would be timely right now. Need a bolster in depth at least. Gotta be trying something to improve.

But, thank **** Stringer is out of the equation, last thing we needed was another player to just coast on talent most of the time when the games on their terms only to go missing when it gets a bit hard.