List Mgmt. 2024 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

 

[Bandicoot]

Smith wouldn't be welcome with us as we have a no dickhead policy and he is one

The no dickhead policy was obviously thrown out the window when we traded in Ladhams.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think Essendon did very well out of that swap of picks.

100% that's a solid trade, they get Kako, will have a pick in the 30's live right now. Two first rounders which they can either keep for next year or flip one to this year (either their own or the Dees)

 

[ShireSwan]

Hypothetical (Very)

Ladhams to St Kilda given they have pulled out of the Soldo conversation

For their first rounder.

 

[SwansLifer]

North wanted #44 for the offer pitched to Bulldogs for Daniel. It was said the Dogs knocked back an offer of #25 & #44.
Swans need to hold firm on what they want because Daniel isn't better than Parker even with the 3 year age difference.

 

[ShireSwan]

Unlike Adelaide WC aren't going to you know what us. Freo's picks are utter trash. I'm hoping they waste them all on Bolton, etc so they are left with nothing of value.

Chad isn't Free Agency so that's irrelevant to him, it's a trade or PSD (won't happen) or a National draft nomination (with terms, Luke Ball the last instance this occurred it's extremely rare)

If he doesn't sign an extension PSD is the most likely outcome if WC are last or second last.
Why would Chad want the team he is going to to give away real high draft picks?? He'd want them to have as many good players as possible.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

North wanted #44 for the offer pitched to Bulldogs for Daniel. It was said the Dogs knocked back an offer of #25 & #44.
Swans need to hold firm on what they want because Daniel isn't better than Parker even with the 3 year age difference.

That wasn't the offer for starters

It was #25 for Daniel and pick 48 (WB)

The pick 44 from North wasn't involved

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If he doesn't sign an extension PSD is the most likely outcome if WC are last or second last.
Why would Chad want the team he is going to to give away real high draft picks?? He'd want them to have as many good players as possible.

Everyone says this every single season there is no way it ebnds in the PSD, not a chance on earth

 

[Bloods86]

Everyone says this every single season there is no way it ebnds in the PSD, not a chance on earth

No, because we would accept something (as we should) before it gets to that, like we did with Dawson, even if it's unders.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

No, because we would accept something before it gets to that, like we did with Dawson, even if it's unders.

that is the one deal I'm confident is fair WCE are one of the best to trade with

 

[Kbroome]

that is the one deal I'm confident is fair WCE are one of the best to trade with

If he could just do us a favour next year and not nominate a club but just the state to get the best deal for us would be great

 

[Bloods86]

that is the one deal I'm confident is fair WCE are one of the best to trade with

They may be better than the Crows but it doesn't mean it will be fair. They have very little reason to be. It's not like they're going to have any OOC NSW based players wanting to return home and we're going to be cellar dwellers in the near future to make them give us market rate.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If he could just do us a favour next year and not nominate a club but just the state to get the best deal for us would be great

Agree with that, and I'm going straight to WCE not even dealing with Freo

 

[LukeParkerno1]

They may be better than the Crows but it doesn't mean it will be fair. They have very little reason to be. It's not like they're going to have any OOC NSW based players wanting to return home and we're going to be cellar dwellers in the near future to make them give us market rate.

Two firsts (or the value of two firsts) is more than reasonable. We may even if we have to trade with WCE get a pick before the academy kids.

 

[Kbroome]

Agree with that, and I'm going straight to WCE not even dealing with Freo

Freo would just be in the background to make WCE not just offer a dumb first round pick.

 

[Bloods86]

Two firsts (or the value of two firsts) is more than reasonable. We may even if we have to trade with WCE get a pick before the academy kids.

You seem to believe there is some moral principle guiding the Eagles that makes them offer multiple firsts.

 

[SwansLifer]

That wasn't the offer for starters

It was #25 for Daniel and pick 48 (WB)

The pick 44 from North wasn't involved

Oh OK. I must have misheard that. Makes more sense.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

You seem to believe there is some moral principle guiding the Eagles that makes them offer multiple firsts.

Clubs don't want to completely burn relations, yes sometimes you take a bit unders or a bit overs. WCE are always fair enough. Look at the Tim Kelly deal.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Oh OK. I must have misheard that. Makes more sense.

The Dogs not taking it is the funny thing, the bloke is playing in the VFL and you get a top 25 pick for him!

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Freo would just be in the background to make WCE not just offer a dumb first round pick.

The one club that would make me at ease would be him nominating WCE. The one club that approaches it the right way

 

[Bloods86]

Clubs don't want to completely burn relations, yes sometimes you take a bit unders or a bit overs. WCE are always fair enough. Look at the Tim Kelly deal.

Why is the Kelly deal relevant?

Different list boss, completely different circumstances.

Eagles thought they were in the window still, so picks mattered less than an established star, and the PSD wasn't anywhere near the same option, with them making a semi and Freo much lower.

Eagles are now in a rebuild, have the PSD option, so why not get a gun player AND not have to pay fair value.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Oh OK. I must have misheard that. Makes more sense.

Weird deal and it's weird that the Dogs didn't take it. Maybe they need Daniels more than they have shown not sure there

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Why is the Kelly deal relevant?

Different list boss, completely different circumstances.

Eagles thought they were in the window still, so picks mattered less than an established star, and the PSD wasn't anywhere near the same option, with them making a semi and Freo much lower.

Eagles are now in a rebuild, have the PSD option, so why not get a gun player AND not have to pay fair value.

They get Warner, they are close to a window again, a top 3 pick this year, plus Warner plus Reid. That's a scary midfield for starters, have the AA forward in Waterman and a glut of smalls. Possibly need to get a defender or two, but they are one side if you look deeper aren't far away.

 

[giantsully]

I really hate this policy just saying, I get it but I hate it if you know what I mean. Unfortnately the same token we won't get Stringer, I'd much rather him than 3/4 of our forwards.

Well, it's not true anyway, just saying "Ladhams". As if we wouldn't take Smith if he had an interest, the kid's a star.

 

[Bloods86]

They get Warner, they are close to a window again, a top 3 pick this year, plus Warner plus Reid. That's a scary midfield for starters, have the AA forward in Waterman and a glut of smalls. Possibly need to get a defender or two, but they are one side if you look deeper aren't far away.

So why not get Warner AND keep an extra quality pick?

 

[rustycrate]

Well, it's not true anyway, just saying "Ladhams". As if we wouldn't take Smith if he had an interest, the kid's a star.

Smith is a mirage. Looks like there is so much cool refreshing stuff there, but when you get closer there is nothing worthwhile.