Discussion 2024 General AFL Discussion

[Ephemeral Hope]

had to pull over and watch that last minute. Now I don’t even feel like driving home

 

[Otiman]

These two will be playing finals.
Carlton bandwagon is ON!

We would have beaten both of them tonight.

 

[Holy Hunter Clark]

McKay looks beyond saving. Can’t even kick them from 5m out anymore. Turn him into a backman.

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[Saints4ever]

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Intentional. 7 weeks. Have you learnt nothing

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Is there anyone less funny than Daniel Gorringe

Daniel Gorringe

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

97kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

4.7

2star

HB

5.9

4star

M

2.3

2star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

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D

8.2

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

4.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.4

3star

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Besides recently anointed hands down least funny CaptainRisky of course

 

[Saints43]

500k a year. Peanuts.

“Given Billings remains contractually tied to Ross Lyon's side until the cessation of 2025, a deal that will reportedly net him within the vicinity of $1 million, St Kilda will be paying a portion of this figure in an effort to move the Oakleigh Chargers product from its roster.”

What was the previous contract? That's the point.
Use your inside sources* to tell us what Bruce, Newnes ,Acres and Billings were on prior to getting the average AFL wage or moved on.

 

[sunny3193]

We would have beaten both of them tonight.

Not too sure about that.
Ask me again after we play our first game.

 

[sunny3193]

Is there anyone less funny than Daniel Gorringe?


Besides recently anointed hands down least funny CaptainRisky of course

George ?

 

[George]

George ?

You bore me.

 

[stavro#4]

500K a year, comma, peanut.
What was the previous contract? That's the point.
Use your inside sources* to tell us what Bruce, Newnes ,Acres and Billings were on prior to getting the average AFL wage or moved on.

I don’t know what world you live on. But 500k a year is not peanuts and it’s still above average wage in 2023. (441k was the average in 2023 and back when he re-signed in 21 it was 372k)

Richer than ever: Surprise top earners as 19 players crack $1m

www.afl.com.au

It was and is a poor deal and we are still paying a portion for him to run around at Melbourne for 2 seasons

 

[Holy Hunter Clark]

I don’t know what world you live on. But 500k a year is not peanuts and it’s still above average wage in 2023. (441k was the average in 2023 and back when he re-signed in 21 it was 372k)

Richer than ever: Surprise top earners as 19 players crack $1m

www.afl.com.au

It was and is a poor deal and we are still paying a portion for him to run around at Melbourne for 2 seasons

At least he isn't taking up a spot on our list, if we keep him there's a chance we don't get Arie or Hugo. Those boys may not end up making the grade, but it's better then paying way overs for JB.

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[beside the seaside]

4 x $500K for Billings in 2021 was a great deal for the club.

We wouldn't have a playing list if we offered 2 year deals to players of his ilk.

The guys you want to sign long term are the ones that other clubs are chasing. Signing Billings for four years when no other club wanted him and his best footy was well behind him was idiocy. The same can be said about the bizarre Alison extension.

To be honest I reckon Higgins got pretty lucky with his four year deal last year, not sure I understand that one but hopefully he proves me wrong.

 

[g_TRAIN]

****ing hell this season is going to be painful if Carlton is up and about.

The only remedy is for us to be better.

 

[beside the seaside]

******* hell this season is going to be painful if Carlton is up and about.

The only remedy is for us to be better.

To come back from 46 points down and win at the GABBA is basically as good a win as you'll get. They're clearly a top four team this year.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

******* hell this season is going to be painful if Carlton is up and about.

The only remedy is for us to be better.

You would think two decades of being shit would have taught them to be humble.

 

[stavro#4]

At least he isn't taking up a spot on our list, if we keep him there's a chance we don't get Arie or Hugo. Those boys may not end up making the grade, but it's better then paying way overs for JB.

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I wanted Billings gone. So I’ll cop paying some of his salary.


But the conversation was around Billings taking this massive pay cut to sign for 4 years

Yeah, he took a pay cut on the previous deal. But this narrative that he was on pittance is and was laughable and far from the truth or that it was some favour.

No one wanted JB 2 years ago . Last year he only got to Melbourne off the back of Richo.

500k a season… 2 years later still being paid more then league average for someone who’s output is league minimum since signing that deal.

 

[gringo2011]

The guys you want to sign long term are the ones that other clubs are chasing. Signing Billings for four years when no other club wanted him and his best footy was well behind him was idiocy. The same can be said about the bizarre Alison extension.

To be honest I reckon Higgins got pretty lucky with his four year deal last year, not sure I understand that one but hopefully he proves me wrong.

I don't mind 4 year contracts in principle but they have to be offset with lower or front ended deals. It's all a gamble and if Snags becomes a consistent version of himself and is on middling wage it's a steal. When we had a horrible list and had to over pay all our middling talent to meet cap spend it was ridiculous. Billings and Gresham on more than Dangerfield says it all.

Allison was straight out strange and probably tipped a couple of fringe depth types out in the end.

 

[seasonedsainter]

I don’t know what world you live on. But 500k a year is not peanuts and it’s still above average wage in 2023. (441k was the average in 2023 and back when he re-signed in 21 it was 372k)

Richer than ever: Surprise top earners as 19 players crack $1m

www.afl.com.au

It was and is a poor deal and we are still paying a portion for him to run around at Melbourne for 2 seasons

IMO he doesn't run around, he fills in gaps on the edges of play, rarely influences a ball in dispute contest, amd waits to get involved as a reciever.

Money paid imo is the L needed to be taken to move on with overall team morale, motivation and therefore velocity towards the ultimate goal. Which is all that matters.

Good luck to all espeically Dees.

 

[gringo2011]

I wanted Billings gone. So I’ll cop paying some of his salary.


But the conversation was around Billings taking this massive pay cut to sign for 4 years

Yeah, he took a pay cut on the previous deal. But this narrative that he was on pittance is and was laughable and far from the truth or that it was some favour.

No one wanted JB 2 years ago . Last year he only got to Melbourne off the back of Richo.

500k a season… 2 years later still being paid more then league average for someone who’s output is league minimum since signing that deal.

It helps that he just played shit. If we pay him to win a flag it might hurt more. Our drafting is so much better now that list spots are worth more than late career guys who haven't met potential. Gresham was harder for me to let go. He looked like the one that might finally go elite early on.

 

[ScrappyDo]

The guys you want to sign long term are the ones that other clubs are chasing. Signing Billings for four years when no other club wanted him and his best footy was well behind him was idiocy. The same can be said about the bizarre Alison extension.

To be honest I reckon Higgins got pretty lucky with his four year deal last year, not sure I understand that one but hopefully he proves me wrong.

l would have liked to see JB gone 4 years ago and there's no doubt Gags was a bit generous on some tenures, but the fix up job for SOS was still very minimal. It's just about a more ruthless approach from top to bottom with cutoffs on credit for potential.
The losses of Gresh, Coff, JB and Dmac are more than covered by Dow, Henry, Boner and Wilson. The 4 delistees are replaced by 4 new kids that look much better, and SOS will already be out shopping for a big name.
Compare that to Ned Guy and the turmoil he left the Pies list in. All of the Gags, Ratts, Satan era were part of setting the club up for the now. Men for the time.

 

[gringo2011]

IMO he doesn't run around, he fills in gaps on the edges of play, rarely influences a ball in dispute contest, amd waits to get involved as a reciever.

Money paid imo is the L needed to be taken to move on with overall team morale, motivation and therefore velocity towards the ultimate goal. Which is all that matters.

Good luck to all espeically Dees.

When you consider he's probably in competition with Wood and Hill types it makes him a lot less appealing. Byrnes probably has more upside even. At least Ryan's an elite runner.

 

[seasonedsainter]

Who negotiated that first Billings deal?

 

[seasonedsainter]

When you consider he's probably in competition with Wood and Hill types it makes him a lot less appealing. Byrnes probably has more upside even. At least Ryan's an elite runner.

And isn't allergic to have a ficking CRACK!!

 

[gringo2011]

l would have liked to see JB gone 4 years ago and there's no doubt Gags was a bit generous on some tenures, but the fix up job for SOS was still very minimal. It's just about a more ruthless approach from top to bottom with cutoffs on credit for potential.
The losses of Gresh, Coff, JB and Dmac are more than covered by Dow, Henry, Boner and Wilson. The 4 delistees are replaced by 4 new kids that look much better, and SOS will already be out shopping for a big name.
Compare that to Ned Guy and the turmoil he left the Pies list in. All of the Gags, Ratts, Satan era were part of setting the club up for the now. Men for the time.

I get why we kept him, it was hoping to get some return on investment. Sometimes you are better to sell your car that you've thrown too much money keeping on the road.

 

[gringo2011]

Who negotiated that first Billings deal?

Maybe Ameet?