Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[theiaofseed]

I'm 100% against trading a future first, just ask collingwood.

I much rather pay this years First and a Future second in a straight swap.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I'm 100% against trading a future first, just ask collingwood.

I much rather pay this years First and a Future second in a straight swap.

I doubt very much we will touch our future first with Barrass.

 

[smish]

Jay Clarke responds well to the WA media. He reacts and calls into journalism, but I can assure you, all contingencies are being discussed. We are in this for the long term. Stress LONG TERM. We want the relationship with WCE to be very sound. We want WCE to have their face saved.

 

[Ashman23]

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So we're also getting Jagga Smith somehow?

 

[Bugs1977]

I'm 100% against trading a future first, just ask collingwood.

I much rather pay this years First and a Future second in a straight swap.

I don't want us to pay that much for Barrass but I'm readying myself for the deal to look something like that. We could also trade some fringe players and net another 2nd rounder as well.

 

[hawkmang]

Rumours of two years forward trading coming next year so would essentially be our 2026 and 2027 firsts.

Roger, thought you were meaning we would pull the trigger on that trade this year.

 

[smish]

So we're also getting Jagga Smith somehow?

Haha, maybe a few years down the line!

 

[mustang]

Jay Clarke responds well to the WA media. He reacts and calls into journalism, but I can assure you, all contingencies are being discussed. We are in this for the long term. Stress LONG TERM. We want the relationship with WCE to be very sound. We want WCE to have their face saved.

Yeah tops but look what happened will hill, we gave him away cheaply for family reasons and in good faith that if he wanted to come back to Melbourne, we could be in the box seat .

It could happen again one day, that we pay to much now and miss out later for more money.

 

[I got the outside word]

Jay Clarke responds well to the WA media. He reacts and calls into journalism, but I can assure you, all contingencies are being discussed. We are in this for the long term. Stress LONG TERM. We want the relationship with WCE to be very sound. We want WCE to have their face saved.

I’m just going to Reid the room and trust the process here.

 

[Hawkers Hero]

Yeah tops but look what happened will hill, we gave him away cheaply for family reasons and in good faith that if he wanted to come back to Melbourne, we could be in the box seat .

It could happen again one day, that we pay to much now and miss out later for more money.

I'm sure Reid is a pipedream and will be the next Judd, Cogs, Whitfield, Shiels, Lynch, McKay etc for this board but I'm not sure those situations are equivalent.

If Reid wants to come back to Vic there is no world he isn't coming to the Hawks because of money imo. We will stump up whatever we need to if he doesn't go 'goo goo ga ga' for the Cats 'lifestyle' or the perceived 'Big 4 Crowds'

As much as I like Hill, he is not a player you build your team around and make your highest paid player. Reid however I believe genuinely is that good

 

[Dangleberry]

It's the mustache.

Hawthorn withdrew their interest because of the mustache.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Watch Geelong win the flag and still be expected to pay less for Smith than we are for Barrass by those in the media.

 

[Lickmesocks]

Let’s think this through what Clarky is saying.

The two first round picks sounds a lot but at this stage our first pick will be somewhere around 18 after the academy and FS bids and next year could be a similar pick.

Hawks give
2024 pick 18
2025 pick 20 (if we finish top 4)

Hawks receive

2025 pick 22 (Eagles second round pick assuming they finish bottom 3 again)
And
Tom Barrass

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Tom Barrass

Age

29

Ht

197cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

158.5

3star

D

10.1

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

5.6

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

139.6

2star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

To me that deal sounds about right and what it’s going to take

 

[threesixpio]

Let’s think this through what Clarky is saying.

The two first round picks sounds a lot but at this stage our first pick will be somewhere around 18 after the academy and FS bids and next year could be a similar pick.

Hawks give
2024 pick 18
2025 pick 20 (if we finish top 4)

Hawks receive

2025 pick 22 (Eagles second round pick assuming they finish bottom 3 again)
And
Tom Barrass

To me that deal sounds about right and what it’s going to take

Unless HR single handedly help them rise up the ladder you make a good point

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Watch Geelong win the flag and still be expected to pay less for Smith than we are for Barrass by those in the media.

This morning "Geelong won't pay much for him"

 

[Topiary]

Yeah tops but look what happened will hill, we gave him away cheaply for family reasons and in good faith that if he wanted to come back to Melbourne, we could be in the box seat .

It could happen again one day, that we pay to much now and miss out later for more money.

Different regime.

 

[threesixpio]

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Reid Wizard and ?

 

[threesixpio]

This morning "Geelong won't pay much for him"

He’s young and very good. Why not I ask?

 

[suedehead]

Too much whinging about Geelong on this board honestly. It's so tedious.

 

[grumbleguts]

Too much whinging about Geelong on this board honestly. It's so tedious.

Well, Hawthorn are playing to well to whinge about.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

He’s young and very good. Why not I ask?

Coming off injury. Only wants to go to Geelong. Geelong are shrewd. Geelong get their men for unders. All projecting

 

[Sixpence]

He’s young and very good. Why not I ask?

Supply and demand. For whatever reason, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of demand for Baz. Teams will bend over backwards for a half decent KPD though (or even shit ones as long as they're huge - see McKay and Rat last year).

 

[TONYC3163]

Well, Hawthorn are playing to well to whinge about.

There are a couple still managing to do that.

 

[lyger]

Let’s think this through what Clarky is saying.

The two first round picks sounds a lot but at this stage our first pick will be somewhere around 18 after the academy and FS bids and next year could be a similar pick.

Hawks give
2024 pick 18
2025 pick 20 (if we finish top 4)

Hawks receive

2025 pick 22 (Eagles second round pick assuming they finish bottom 3 again)
And
Tom Barrass

To me that deal sounds about right and what it’s going to take

On paper I tend to agree, but there’s a lot to play out in terms of 2025.

The Eagles may rise up the ladder unexpectedly and/or the Hawks may drop down the ladder unexpectedly and the ‘slight pick downgrade’ could easily become quite significant.

I am looking forward to having Barrass but I would prefer not to involve our next years first if possible.

 

[Billyc]

Clarke said this year’s first (should be 15 - 18), and next year’s first (15 - 18), for Barrass and their 2025 second (19 - 21)

Sounds fair to me.

Yes the first round / second round analysis needs to take account of finishing positions. Its not two first rounders for a 28 year old.

If we are top 6 again next year (good chance) and west coast are bottom 4 (very likely), we are effectively giving a late first rounder this year and then sliding a few draft spots next year. Thats not far off

There is obviously the risk of us regressing and them improving next year. Equally they could come dead last and we could go close to the top, making it a very marginal difference.

Id also be comfortable with both firsts for their Barass and their second this year. Thats a slide this year in a draft that bats deep and our first next year. Keep winning this year and its gets better