Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Bugs1977]

Hawthorn's latest offer for Barrass – a future first- and second-round selection (the Eagles' choice whether they are tied to Hawthorn or Carlton) for Barrass and a future later pick – has been put to the Eagles. – Callum Twomey

It seems to be absolutely paramount to keep the flexibility of a full draft hand in 2025. MM and Co either must have something cooking (KPF) OR it's just that they'll see it as our last chance to add some decent kids before Tassy come in.

 

[chopflop]

Move pick 33 into next year for a second and a third. Need to build that Harley war chest.

 

[Bugs1977]

So next year teams will be able to trade future picks 2years in advance but we have to have our 2025 1st rounder

Maybe that's why it's so imperative to have the 2nd rounders there so you can trade out those future 1sts. Does anyone know how the new rules will work?

 

[Billyc]

Be interesting to see whether the Eagles think our future first or Carlton's future first is of more value.

 

[FB19]

I must be the only one who can't see that. How is it in our favour?

Do most Hawks fans expect Blues to NOT end up Top 6( especially if they get Houston too)? Then the F1 is likely to be pick 12 or under and we did well. If they end up Top 4 as most will assume given their list quality, we are even or doing worse.

Hence I feel we could have done better but sometime you have to bite the bullet as waiting too long can remove options.

Tigers traded picks worth 1700+ points for Pick 20( 900 pts) to Lions but seems like they had to jump the gun as Lions were going to trade pick 20 to someone else who gave them around 1500 pts. All those picks tigers traded out could have been useful in trades for Rioli/Bolton/Baker to give back to Suns/Freo/WCE but they are confident of holding those clubs over the barrel without these picks.

Every year Lions seem to be doing well with such points trade & given Tigers were forced to this trade, I hope they pick Levi at Pick 1 or else Lions are getting talent in cheap.

If we could have replaced the blues F2 with the Lions F2 and as well as added one the Blues 30's pick or their F3, then we would have done well.

This draft talent is quite good and even till pick 20 or so. So pick 14 should be worth more. But MM can't keep waiting for the perfect trade and so took the best on offer so everyone can use the weekend to digest that pick 14 is not in our hands.

Time heals and Eagles will come to the party, their fans may throw the toys out of cot till Barass deal gets done. ATM they feel entitled to both our F1 & F2 and want more to be added, we just have to give it time and Barass can be done as last gasp trade too now, we can focus on others.

Love you hawkinoz as you try to get max value for us but that’s Dodoro like and MM is a strategist and collaborative negotiator. It’s a very good trade we in all likelihood got a free 2nd and end up with barrass for pick 14. Battle Barrass pick 33 on a KPF and Cody Anderson NGA is a great result. We have had large list turnover and we have quickly changed from a development to performance focus and that requires list stability. What they are doing is highly impressive in all facets.

 

[FB19]

Carlton purely did that trade as they needed a second 1st round pick to meet Port's demands for Dan Houston.

No they didn’t Pies most likely but it’s their backup plan in case that doesn’t work. Carlton love this draft they have openly said they wanted another first rounder. They may even trade up to 2/3.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[hawkinoz]

F#@*ing rude of them to make deals for pick 14 without securing it. Surely MM sensed the lack of respect among other clubs for our trading strategy and likely also chose to make a statement.

If they respected us, they could have easily made a 3 way deal or 4 way involving GC or Freo that benefited all, but they seemed sure that we would roll over.

Love you hawkinoz as you try to get max value for us but that’s Dodoro like and MM is a strategist and collaborative negotiator. It’s a very good trade we in all likelihood got a free 2nd and end up with barrass for pick 14. Battle Barrass pick 33 on a KPF and Cody Anderson NGA is a great result. We have had large list turnover and we have quickly changed from a development to performance focus and that requires list stability. What they are doing is highly impressive in all facets.

As I said before if reports of Swans 19+22 for 13 was on offer then surely 14+33 for 19+22 + Swans F2 was also possible. But MM likely wanted the F2 badly and we had to make a point to the rest.

 

[burger09]

But, but, but....

The media told us for weeks we had.

 

[butlers hawks]

 

[2008wasoverDEW!]

DGB, Phillips, and Jack O'Sullivan would be the 3 out of contract players that won't be on our list next year.

Trading anyone else in would also require another senior listed player to be traded out, or delisted and rookie listed.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Be interesting to see whether the Eagles think our future first or Carlton's future first is of more value.

I reckon they’ll hedge and take one of each.

Makes sense from us to not appear cocky to Carlton by forcing theirs down Eagles’ throats.

 

[earthworms]

Be interesting to see whether the Eagles think our future first or Carlton's future first is of more value.

The decision will likely be passed on to Richmond, since the future picks will be used for baker

 

[MasterSamurai]

So, essentially, we offered future first and a second rounder but asked for a third back!? And the Eagles chucked a fit? Wtf, talk about not reading the room. Stupid is stupid.

 

[ML4Hodgy]

So did Mark offer 14/F2 for F3 and Barrass.?
Then trade 14 for Carl F1/F2
And now offering F1/F2 for F3 and Barrass - effectively getting something back for pick 14?

Bloke needs a raise if he can pull off 14 or less for Barrass.

 

[eaglespremiers]

West Coast are idiots. They are the ones rebuilding, they should be taking pick 15 in this deep draft. Who cares about Baker if they are doing a 5 year rebuild.

 

[Bugs1977]

The decision will likely be passed on to Richmond, since the future picks will be used for baker

OR

Richmond + WC have already come to an agreement on what it would take to get Baker which is why MM did the trade for Carlton's future F1 + F2.

<insert looney with silver foil hat.gif>

 

[I got the outside word]

It all seems to me that the clubs are working together but the media are throwing silly duffa prices around for players to get clicks and views, because no shame or accountability.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Ashman23]

https://archive.md/ypYJ7

The Western Bulldogs want a pick inside the top 10 of November’s super draft from Geelong in exchange for Bailey Smith.

 

[Chioli]

Hope we are considering walking away from Barass. 2 future 1st and 2 future 2’s gives us the flexibility to do anything next year. We may even get a great offer for 33 on draft night from a bottom 4 team for another second and third in 2025.

We have heaps of cap space and amazing young talent. Sam Mitchell talked about doing the opposite of the rest of the league. The rest of the league is trying to get into this draft at the expense of next year. Maybe we need to show some patience to set us up for a massive run.


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[Nastyfish]

https://archive.md/ypYJ7

The Western Bulldogs want a pick inside the top 10 of November’s super draft from Geelong in exchange for Bailey Smith.

Seems reasonable

 

[TheFourPillars]

Hope we are considering walking away from Barass. 2 future 1st and 2 future 2’s gives us the flexibility to do anything next year. We may even get a great offer for 33 on draft night from a bottom 4 team for another second and third in 2025.

We have heaps of cap space and amazing young talent. Sam Mitchell talked about doing the opposite of the rest of the league. The rest of the league is trying to get into this draft at the expense of next year. Maybe we need to show some patience to set us up for a massive run.


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We r not walking away the deal is done.

 

[Dewnior]

F&$k off JON RALPH.

Enjoy your impending three-peat of spoons you moron

 

[Mercy Seat]

https://archive.md/ypYJ7

The Western Bulldogs want a pick inside the top 10 of November’s super draft from Geelong in exchange for Bailey Smith.

He’s a jet with 10 years ahead. Yes he’s coming off an ACL, but there’s no reason he can’t get back to his best, particularly if he’s playing as a pure mid.

If an aging Rioli is worth pick 6, then a top 10 for smith is more than fair.