Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

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Brant said:
That's my thinking & why it would likely only be considered on Draft Night:
1. Who is still there, &,
2. Do we have bigger plans for 2025 & beyond.

This play would give us 2x 2025 1sts, with the ability to trade 2x future 1sts. Pick purchasing could net us another 1st, so there's a scenario where we could access 5x 1sts in 2025, if all played out that way.

I reckon I'd look to sell a late 1st to keep our side together or help fund role-specific targets via Free Agency (LDU etc. ).
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I think players like Sims Zak Johnson Charlie Nicholls might get as deep as 45 or later so if we can trade back for our benefit then all good. But equally I think there is a world where at 33 Faull and Gerreyn are available and you simply take one even Sims works for me. It’s a nice place to be.
 
Think it’s pretty simple.

We either trade up 33 for an earlier pick (with futures) or sit tight and use 33.

Match a bid on Cody (ideally late so no deficit). Possibly a bid goes a lot earlier then we like and we pass - then we may try to trade up (if have anything left).

Re-rookie Gunston.
 
burner1 said:
Think it’s pretty simple.

We either trade up 33 for an earlier pick (with futures) or sit tight and use 33.

Match a bid on Cody (ideally late so no deficit). Possibly a bid goes a lot earlier then we like and we pass - then we may try to trade up (if have anything left).

Re-rookie Gunston.
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This. There will be no juggling it's a trade for a target or pick 33.
 

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Cannyman said:
Moving up the order in this draft is going to cost a fortune. Does 33 + F1 + F2 get Pick 18 from Richmond?
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We can't do that trade. If you trade your future first, you must have a future second and future third. In that scenario, we would have neither.

A trade of our future first would require a future third coming back next year which would further jack up the price.

Moving up in this draft will require a significant overpay. "Best" deal we'd get (IMO) is 33 + F1 to GWS for 21 and F3.

At that price I'd prefer staying at 33. Then again, if you nail the pick, it's always worth it.
 
VandoHawk said:
We can't do that trade. If you trade your future first, you must have a future second and future third. In that scenario, we would have neither.

A trade of our future first would require a future third coming back next year which would further jack up the price.

Moving up in this draft will require a significant overpay. "Best" deal we'd get (IMO) is 33 + F1 to GWS for 21 and F3.

At that price I'd prefer staying at 33. Then again, if you nail the pick, it's always worth it.
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Cost will be high. But if there’s a guy we rate as say top 10 available we may pull the trigger.
 
We are in a great position.

Natural improvement and our trajectory from our young list see us close to winning it next year. Add Barrass and Battle and the game plan tweak with it in itself, and we should win it. Then there's Lewis on the horizon.

Rather than sell the farm for one pick this year, I'd prefer we pick best available at 33 and death-ride the blues picks next year. With pick purchasing coming in, Tassie coming in, and additionally being able to net some good returns from supefluous players next year, it will give us a decent draft hand and impetus to cut deals with clubs desperate for talent, rolling these into futures, or at worst we use the picks. Becoming a destination club again allows us to add FA's, and we set up for a decade-long sustained success and another golden era beckons.
 
This draft is mainly rated so highly due to the depth of talent in the draft pool. The expectation is that some seriously good kids can be picked in the 30-50 range, which hasn't been the case for some years.

Personally I would prefer to see us grab the best available talent at pick 33, rather than throwing the kitchen sink at a 10-12 pick upgrade.

IMO the Weddle draft night trade upgrade was a little different, as that particular draft was viewed as much shallower for top end talent, and we clearly identified Josh as a player we were extremely keen to get.
 
2008wasoverDEW! said:
This draft is mainly rated so highly due to the depth of talent in the draft pool. The expectation is that some seriously good kids can be picked in the 30-50 range, which hasn't been the case for some years.

Personally I would prefer to see us grab the best available talent at pick 33, rather than throwing the kitchen sink at a 10-12 pick upgrade.

IMO the Weddle draft night trade upgrade was a little different, as that particular draft was viewed as much shallower for top end talent, and we clearly identified Josh as a player we were extremely keen to get.
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Yeah we won't upgrade for the sake of it. It will only be for a specific couple or so players that may have slipped.
 
I don’t get the fascination with having to trade just to ensure we have a first round selection in the 2024 draft. We don’t have a first round pick for a reason. And we don’t need to. Great case of FOMO.

Thankfully those in charge have more logic in their decision making.
 

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The Jet From Poowong said:
I don’t get the fascination with having to trade just to ensure we have a first round selection in the 2024 draft.
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Me neither, trading just for the sake of, is ridiculous. We're where we are for a reason.
BUT as FP has said and I agree, if a target of ours is gettable we will trade up. We'll only do it for a specific target though.
 
Brant said:
That's my thinking & why it would likely only be considered on Draft Night:
1. Who is still there, &,
2. Do we have bigger plans for 2025 & beyond.

This play would give us 2x 2025 1sts, with the ability to trade 2x future 1sts. Pick purchasing could net us another 1st, so there's a scenario where we could access 5x 1sts in 2025, if all played out that way.

I reckon I'd look to sell a late 1st to keep our side together or help fund role-specific targets via Free Agency (LDU etc. ).
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I really like this. Trade out and arm themselves with a huge hand next year.

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The Jet From Poowong said:
I don’t get the fascination with having to trade just to ensure we have a first round selection in the 2024 draft. We don’t have a first round pick for a reason. And we don’t need to. Great case of FOMO.

Thankfully those in charge have more logic in their decision making.
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Agree. And we've taken 2 in both previous years to this.
 
If pick buying and trading picks two years ahead are definitely locked in for next year... That really changes the landscape for moving up.
 
eldorado said:
Yes....



Yes, it does....
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No….

No, it doesn’t….

It’s not an allowable trade. Even if it were it would be a crazy use of draft capital in a draft all experts say is essentially even picks 15-35. I’ve reviewed many mock drafts I believe Gerreyn Sims Barrett will be available at 33 and in 2 others Jonty Faull was as well so I think now we just hold the pick and future capital for a big fish.
 
FB19 said:
it would be a crazy use of draft capital in a draft all experts say is essentially even picks 15-35.
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Nothing gets past you, does it?
 
Cannyman said:
Moving up the order in this draft is going to cost a fortune. Does 33 + F1 + F2 get Pick 18 from Richmond?
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Sorry, I should rephrase. I can't see pick 33 and a F1 moving us too far up the draft board in a highly toughted draft where hawthorn is tipped to do well next year.
 
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