List Mgmt. 2024 List Management 📃

[Foucault1989]

I reckon we develop Jsos over pre season as a key defender , think he would be solid , no quick but strong & reads play well. we know he can swing forward too

I second this.

 

[Blueyourmyboy!!]

The person that set the wheels in motion was MLG, not SOS

SOS was a ruthless in trades, not great with talent ID

I agree totally!! Hopeless with all the picks after pick 30 all spuds.
Top 10 picks from 2015-18 he went at 50% success rate and 2 were pick 1. He wasn't great to be honest.

 

[HBF]

Agree we’ll be thin but can’t do Carroll. He’s just not up to it.

Reckon he'll request a trade back to WA at years end

 

[Blueyourmyboy!!]

I don't think JSOS is quick enough off the first 5 meters to be a Key Back

Agree. Massive respect for what jsos brings in effort and selflessness but is very slow and the game is getting faster and faster every year. Can't see him in the best 23 next year.

 

[Lace_Out]

I think E.Hollands as a full time mid would be ahead of Carroll

Absolutely.

I was a big wrap on Carroll early days but have come to the realisation he is limited.

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[teddy-hopkins]

Interesting to see how Stk are floundering now as a contrast to where we're at considering we were both bottom 4 at the same time. They stayed down for 2 years, we were in there for 5 (long) years.

It is crippling for a club and horrific for a supporter base to be that low for that long but it is almost necessary evil these days. Unless you pull off a miracle in FS gifts (Coll) or Academy gifts (Swans) it's very hard these days to accumulate enough quality players in one age bracket to challenge.

StK rose up quicker, made finals twice (6th) in 4 years but are again sinking back down this year.

It reinforces how important the decision-making is around trading in experienced players.

The List Manager has to be very sure he's already got the core of a premiership team out of the draft before trading in. I know SOS went hard at Shiel / Coniglio / etc. and it was disappointing at the time to miss out but it turned out to be good luck.

It's as important to not rise back up the ladder too quickly as anything else.

StK, Ess and a few others are caught with a wide range of player profiles on their list. Not enough guns in their 24-29 y.o. bracket.

Hawthorn were in the bottom 4 for 4 years but it feels like their kids are mediocre with one or two exceptions. The decision to recruit a small forward with pick 5 last year seems a strange one when their key pos stocks are so thin.

North will be a contender in a few years but they've also not got the key posts nailed down.

If GC keep getting these Academy gifts they will win 5 in a row.

 

[goreds]

Reckon he'll request a trade back to WA at years end

Agreed, we could do with a few more picks and points!

Campo X2 is an upgrade..

 

[RAPPA]

I reckon we develop Jsos over pre season as a key defender , think he would be solid , no quick but strong & reads play well. we know he can swing forward too

Not sure he has the pedigree to be a KPD

 

[Lukey Skywalker]

Yeah jsos not quick over the first 5 metres but either is Weitering, tom mcartin, jeremy mcgovern

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or May albeit they have some extra height & size. I personally just think if he's depth position player train he there over the pre -season & get him to know the set up as a back up who can fill needs as not much quality key position depth at this stage.. depends what happends with Marchbank & where young goes from here.

 

[Bokan]

Interesting to see how Stk are floundering now as a contrast to where we're at considering we were both bottom 4 at the same time. They stayed down for 2 years, we were in there for 5 (long) years.

It is crippling for a club and horrific for a supporter base to be that low for that long but it is almost necessary evil these days. Unless you pull off a miracle in FS gifts (Coll) or Academy gifts (Swans) it's very hard these days to accumulate enough quality players in one age bracket to challenge.

StK rose up quicker, made finals twice (6th) in 4 years but are again sinking back down this year.

It reinforces how important the decision-making is around trading in experienced players.

The List Manager has to be very sure he's already got the core of a premiership team out of the draft before trading in. I know SOS went hard at Shiel / Coniglio / etc. and it was disappointing at the time to miss out but it turned out to be good luck.

It's as important to not rise back up the ladder too quickly as anything else.

StK, Ess and a few others are caught with a wide range of player profiles on their list. Not enough guns in their 24-29 y.o. bracket.

Hawthorn were in the bottom 4 for 4 years but it feels like their kids are mediocre with one or two exceptions. The decision to recruit a small forward with pick 5 last year seems a strange one when their key pos stocks are so thin.

North will be a contender in a few years but they've also not got the key posts nailed down.

If GC keep getting these Academy gifts they will win 5 in a row.

I think with the saints financials it would be nearly club killing to be down the bottom too long - they do worse financially than north so are very vulnerable to anything below mediocrity

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[Sector 7G]

Interesting to see how Stk are floundering now as a contrast to where we're at considering we were both bottom 4 at the same time. They stayed down for 2 years, we were in there for 5 (long) years.

It is crippling for a club and horrific for a supporter base to be that low for that long but it is almost necessary evil these days. Unless you pull off a miracle in FS gifts (Coll) or Academy gifts (Swans) it's very hard these days to accumulate enough quality players in one age bracket to challenge.

StK rose up quicker, made finals twice (6th) in 4 years but are again sinking back down this year.

It reinforces how important the decision-making is around trading in experienced players.

The List Manager has to be very sure he's already got the core of a premiership team out of the draft before trading in. I know SOS went hard at Shiel / Coniglio / etc. and it was disappointing at the time to miss out but it turned out to be good luck.

It's as important to not rise back up the ladder too quickly as anything else.

StK, Ess and a few others are caught with a wide range of player profiles on their list. Not enough guns in their 24-29 y.o. bracket.

Hawthorn were in the bottom 4 for 4 years but it feels like their kids are mediocre with one or two exceptions. The decision to recruit a small forward with pick 5 last year seems a strange one when their key pos stocks are so thin.

North will be a contender in a few years but they've also not got the key posts nailed down.

If GC keep getting these Academy gifts they will win 5 in a row.

Saints have had bad use1st round picks
Billings over Bont
McCartin of Tracc
Trading out for Carlise and Missing H and CC.
Coffield and Clark instead of Naughton
Brad Hill for pick 10 and Acres
In hindsight they are the type of selections/trades that sets a club back

GCS won't win anything if they keep giving away players like Elij for nothing

 

[BlueJet]

Yeah jsos not quick over the first 5 metres but either is Weitering, tom mcartin, jeremy mcgovern or May albeit they have some extra height & size. I personally just think if he's depth position player train he there over the pre -season & get him to know the set up as a back up who can fill needs as not much quality key position depth at this stage.. depends what happends with Marchbank & where young goes from here.

They're all bigger & much stronger overhead, they're genuine KPP, whereas Jack is more a tweener.
With all respect to him as I genuinely admire his effort but I struggle to think of a favourable matchup for him as a defender.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Would we consider a trade for a player like Neale-Bullen if we let Cunners go end of year and he wanted out of Goodwins 'snowy' palace? Not sure what he'd cost under contract but certainly a high quality role player for the Dees.

Surely a few will be seeking a fresh start away from the ****show thats enveloped the Dee's this year with Clarry and their medico's, Joel Smith etc.

 

[sweethoney]

Would we consider a trade for a player like Neale-Bullen if we let Cunners go end of year and he wanted out of Goodwins 'snowy' palace? Not sure what he'd cost under contract but certainly a high quality role player for the Dees.

Reckon Gold Coast may let a few go cheaply again this year. Especially if they’re bringing in Dusty.

 

[FoeverBlues]

Interesting to see how Stk are floundering now as a contrast to where we're at considering we were both bottom 4 at the same time. They stayed down for 2 years, we were in there for 5 (long) years.

It is crippling for a club and horrific for a supporter base to be that low for that long but it is almost necessary evil these days. Unless you pull off a miracle in FS gifts (Coll) or Academy gifts (Swans) it's very hard these days to accumulate enough quality players in one age bracket to challenge.

StK rose up quicker, made finals twice (6th) in 4 years but are again sinking back down this year.

It reinforces how important the decision-making is around trading in experienced players.

The List Manager has to be very sure he's already got the core of a premiership team out of the draft before trading in. I know SOS went hard at Shiel / Coniglio / etc. and it was disappointing at the time to miss out but it turned out to be good luck.

It's as important to not rise back up the ladder too quickly as anything else.

StK, Ess and a few others are caught with a wide range of player profiles on their list. Not enough guns in their 24-29 y.o. bracket.

Hawthorn were in the bottom 4 for 4 years but it feels like their kids are mediocre with one or two exceptions. The decision to recruit a small forward with pick 5 last year seems a strange one when their key pos stocks are so thin.

North will be a contender in a few years but they've also not got the key posts nailed down.

If GC keep getting these Academy gifts they will win 5 in a row.

'If GC keep getting these Academy gifts they will win 5 in a row"
or just a feeder team for Blues

 

[Jatz]

I like Neale Bullen. For the right price, I wouldn't be opposed to that at all.

 

[katmanblue]

They're all bigger & much stronger overhead, they're genuine KPP, whereas Jack is more a tweener.
With all respect to him as I genuinely admire his effort but I struggle to think of a favourable matchup for him as a defender.

Isn't Jack the same height as May?

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[katmanblue]

Reckon Gold Coast may let a few go cheaply again this year. Especially if they’re bringing in Dusty.

Why? Do you think the salary cap applies to them?

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[TENACIOUS]

Reckon Gold Coast may let a few go cheaply again this year. Especially if they’re bringing in Dusty.

Dusty is cooked, if Gold Coast were to take him on it wouldn’t be on massive $$$…

I’d think he’ll more likely retire…

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Would we consider a trade for a player like Neale-Bullen if we let Cunners go end of year and he wanted out of Goodwins 'snowy' palace? Not sure what he'd cost under contract but certainly a high quality role player for the Dees.

Surely a few will be seeking a fresh start away from the ****show thats enveloped the Dee's this year with Clarry and their medico's, Joel Smith etc.

Contracted for 2025 and 2026. Turns 29 at the start of 2025 also. He would be a handy pick up but beyond doubtful the Dees let him go unless it’s for overs this off season.

I actually think going after Conor Stone from the Giants is the type of player we should be going after. Former 1st round talent, plays forward/mid. Currently OOC and playing in their seconds behind some very good players. Turns 23 at the start of the 2025 season and is a VIC boy. Also it appears he finally has his body right. I suspect he could be a EHollands type pick up and the Giants won’t get anything better than a late 2nd for him.

After that I’d just take the Campos and a Key Back (hopefully in the 1st round still…) along with upgrading Boyd.

We are in the sweet spot and adding to our list with good kids is what I suspect we will aim to do this off season. Just need to keep the talent coming through

 

[LemmingMaster]

Reckon Gold Coast may let a few go cheaply again this year. Especially if they’re bringing in Dusty.

Rosas would be a player I would consider getting, I was a Jeffrey fan as well, but he's getting a game these days.

 

[BlueJet]

Isn't Jack the same height as May?

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Perhaps but that's one interpretation of bigger/larger.. put them side by side and what I'm referring to should be obvious.

 

[Blue1980]

I think with the saints financials it would be nearly club killing to be down the bottom too long - they do worse financially than north so are very vulnerable to anything below mediocrity

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They have enough to work with they shouldn’t be complete garbage, but they have their answer now of whether they have a list capable of contending.

Their list isn’t set in stone, they do have young and more established talent, but they didn’t get as much out of their high picks as they needed to in order to be a top side now.

 

[Stamos]

Musical chairs in Blues’ attack as club favourite waits on new deal; Restricted free agent numbers dwindle

A key member of Carlton’s modern-day mosquito fleet is waiting patiently for a new deal, the (restricted) free agent four and the unrestricted free agent in demand.

www.theage.com.au

https://archive.md/wYiYd

 

[DEliades]

Musical chairs in Blues’ attack as club favourite waits on new deal; Restricted free agent numbers dwindle

A key member of Carlton’s modern-day mosquito fleet is waiting patiently for a new deal, the (restricted) free agent four and the unrestricted free agent in demand.

www.theage.com.au

https://archive.md/wYiYd

Mowies needs to be signed up asap - he loves the club and we love him.