Jacks Seething Rage
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What could he possibly be other than cheap? Exposed form doesn't warrant anything more.
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Had a few 20-touch games when given a chance, but yeah you're probably right. Can't show much when you're sub every week.
Jacks Seething Rage
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Sub rule is damaging careers.
Ready made replacement in the twos for Billy Wilson once he gets a senior promotion lol
bradfisher14
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Let’s be real for a second. The two clubs most likely chasing Owies are St. Kilda and Essendon.
Do you really think SOS or Dodo would give us a first round pick for him?
At best we could get a second which would be eliminated by Campo bids or we ask for their future 2 which they would be less likely to hand over.
I just think Owies is more value to us on the list than in trading him out. There are other players on our list that I would be trading out before him, but that’s another discussion for later in the year. So much to play out yet.
Indeed. The Gold Coast shop may not be open for much longer, as they finally get some success, so picking up a good player relatively cheaply would be an excellent idea. Rosas is certainly one that would be in the mix. He's not getting game time and has some attributes.
If I were Owies, I wouldn't want a bar of either St. Kilda or the Drug Cheats; they're going nowhere, no matter how much money they offer. Owies has gone through the bad times and now reaping the reward. I'd be keeping him, offering him what we need to. It might not be as much the 'Aints can offer, but we're playing finals and they're looking ... ordinary.
Besides, St. Kilda have small forwards: they lack midfield talent.
bradfisher14
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No doubt. I’m sure he would understand how valuable being a Carlton premiership player would be post-playing career as well. It would more than make up for the monetary difference between our offer and that of his other suitors.
Personally I’d be more inclined to trade Durdin who recently signed a 2 year deal and as we know in off seasons things can change very quickly and he’s just got injured again so a retain home could appeal. If port or crows were interested and offered us a future 2nd I think we’d be all in we it would be help us A) bring in a quality future pick and B) assist in retaining Owies. I like Durds, but of the current crop he’s the one I’d be open to losing. I’d have Carroll in the same bracket.
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Think the club would sooner delist Marchbank than trade Owies if we need to free up a list spot.
Martin also more appealing as trade bait.
Trade Carroll.
Trade Martin.
Delist Cuningham.
Delist or rookie Marchbank.
That's four spots.
Draft one ourselves, match bids for both Campo's, elevate Boyd to the senior list.
Also a slim chance someone gets in the ear of forgotten man Lewis Young, would be a few sides who might actually have a spot for him in their starting side.
Next year gets bloody hard though, out of contract:
Cerra - required, you'd assume, probably something like a moderate money 4-year deal
Saad - short term extension (1-2 years)
Cincotta - extension (2-3 years)
Wilson - at risk by virtue of age, but showing enough
Kemp - extension (2-3 years my guess, breakout year or oppo interest could push that to 4)
Hewett - established but could be squeezed for list rejuvenation
Lemmey - at risk, needs to lift intensity
Silvagni - free agent, his call
Weiters - probably takes unders for 5 years and commits to being a one club player
Motlop - extension, but maybe some small chance he gets offers elsewhere that interest him
Kennedy - free agent, his call
McGovern - short term extension (1 year plus triggers for second?)
Newman - short term extension (1-2 years)
Fantasia - short term extension (1-2 years my guess, maybe triggers for a third)
Monahan - who knows, does he stay Cat B?
Docherty - all down to how he comes back from this ACL
TDK - priority A signing, will probably take 7 years at very very good money
2025 could see us cut Lemmey despite being a developing young KPP, lose Silvagni if he can't break back into the seniors, need to choose only one of Hewett and Kennedy, or trade away a promising youngster like Motlop or Wilson.
For Jack Carroll, has he actually shown anything that indicates he will be a longer term afl player? People keep mentioning him going back to WA, would either club want him?
I think he might be offered a 1 year minimum contract with us at most, and 50/50 chance to not be on an afl list next year.
So what your telling us is because Durds re-injured his shoulder again, we should trade him back to SA....
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It sounds like the AFL is going to allow players to stay on the rookie list for 5 years (previously 3) the proviso might be that it is done to develop rucks, key positions etc so their might be a games limit imposed so that regular senior players aren't just hidden there. Apparently the clubs are in agreement.
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Agree - more likely to sign with Fremantle or WCE as a DFA..
Gets exposed as a small defender. Not quick either. Hard pass from me.
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Everyone develops differently but I liken him to Kennedy as that slower / classy strong bodied midfielder. Matt was still struggling up until 2022. So he was 25 before he came good - Jack is still 21. Plenty of supporters wanted Kennedy delisted prior to '22 also and was only retained on our rookie list in 2020.
Might end up another Nick Holman - nothing flash but able to carve out a 100 game career.
I'd like to see him go around for us for another year. Crippa seems to rate him so let's see what his guidance results in ??
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Well that sounds fair, I always thought Carlton placing Eddie Betts on the rookie list at 33 years of age was not within the spirit of the list's intentions.(but was within the rules)
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I think the big issue for the likes of J.Carroll, and also the 'big 3 often injured', being retained is simply list spaces available - not only this year, but next year.
Not at all, but with TDK due for a monster pay day next year, Williams becoming a forward and Owies further improving again I’d think one may get squeezed out and if one did, it would be him in my eye. We now have a lot of forward half depth and list spots will be tight.
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He has shown enough to earn a crack, just unlikely to get it with us. Wet Toast could use a young mid to link up with Harley
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I would think that Geelong would be in the hunt for a ruckman.
Pitto would easily take the number one spot down there. He would complement their midfield.
That would leave us with a very shakey Ruck division but If Pitto went to Geelong then one of their rucks might be available cheaply. Maybe turn Young into a fulltime ruck until HoK is ready.
Pitto would easily take the number one spot down there. He would complement their midfield.
That would leave us with a very shakey Ruck division but If Pitto went to Geelong then one of their rucks might be available cheaply. Maybe turn Young into a fulltime ruck until HoK is ready.
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