List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[lionsrules]

Anyone got some light on our salary cap space. Even without say $1m from Joe final year. How is it otherwise?

 

[Nuggo]

Tell me Cooney does not get paid for that rubbish

 

[Sanchez365]

Holy shit that is the worst trade I have ever seen lmao

 

[RU_]

Morris reminds me more of a Bradshaw type FF

Depends how he fills out in time to come.

Tall lanky type who is good overhead, like Joe. Could fit the bill!

 

[Darren Downunder]

How do you view Daniher?

Players have every right to change clubs to progress their careers and fulfil their dreams. I’d say Tom Lynch gave the Suns enough service in his time.

My complaint about Lynch is not because he left Gold Coast. As you say, Lynch gave them enough service. He was a free agent. However, bailing out of a sinking Richmond when they desperately need experience and strong bodies is a different case altogether. I hate Richmond, but if your going to go to a club whose just won a flag, you should be willing to ride the ship down.

 

[Tom14]

The question is whether Richmond is looking to offload some of that cap hit. Tom Lynch at $1.4m is no way, no how. If he comes in under Joe's hit for a couple of years with Richmond covering the rest? Sure. But ultimately they'd want increased trade value to do so, and then it becomes hard which is why I don't mind the idea but I don't see it happening unless Richmond is going full teardown and just wants assets for those who aren't going to be there in five years.

I can't really see what the deal could end up as?

Us: pick 18, future second?

Them: late picks this year for bid-matching, Lynch, paying some salary - say 400k at most?

We have to give Lynch a 2 year deal to smooth out the salary too, with a bit of extra money to make him actually want to do it, so 750k/yr?

Leaves us light on for extra picks next year, committing a lot of money over two years to a 32 year old who has barely played recently.

I don't think Richmond cares about offloading salary cap, who are they paying next year with Rioli, Bolton, Baker all gone?

I also don't think that the future second is enough to get them to move Lynch on, its not enough of a reward to remove basically any forward who can kick goals next year and protect the development of whatever tall they draft.

Basically it only makes sense if they think his body is totally cooked... at which point I'd be staying away!

 

[Darren Downunder]

If things ever go bad for this club again we can all at least console ourselves with the fact we don’t have Adam Cooney as our List Manager.

There’s no way he is serious.

I reckon that suggested trade is purely to get the Carlton meathead market up and about.
More clicks, more advertising revenue.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Unless we can get someone capable of kicking 40+ goals a year (Lynch/2MP) I think it will be Henry Smith next year.

I think we still need mature depth. Can't go into the season with Hipwood and Ryan as our only key forwards over 193cm

 

[Perrip]

If things ever go bad for this club again we can all at least console ourselves with the fact we don’t have Adam Cooney as our List Manager.

Tweet deleted cause they were getting trolled so hard in the replies, so here's Cooney's Mega Trade if anyone missed it:

 

[Squizz89]

I can't really see what the deal could end up as?

Us: pick 18, future second?

Them: late picks this year for bid-matching, Lynch, paying some salary - say 400k at most?

We have to give Lynch a 2 year deal to smooth out the salary too, with a bit of extra money to make him actually want to do it, so 750k/yr?

Leaves us light on for extra picks next year, committing a lot of money over two years to a 32 year old who has barely played recently.

I don't think Richmond cares about offloading salary cap, who are they paying next year with Rioli, Bolton, Baker all gone?

I also don't think that the future second is enough to get them to move Lynch on, its not enough of a reward to remove basically any forward who can kick goals next year and protect the development of whatever tall they draft.

Basically it only makes sense if they think his body is totally cooked... at which point I'd be staying away!

Think the only way we make any option work (Lynch or otherwise) where we have to actually pay draft capital, is by trading out a regular who might fetch a bit the other way. Still possible, given the exit meetings aren't till next week, otherwise I think we'll be looking to that DFA market, and even if it gets to that I still believe we need at least one for cover. We were already light on up there before Joe made his decision.

 

[dlanod]

Unless we can get someone capable of kicking 40+ goals a year (Lynch/2MP) I think it will be Henry Smith next year.

If there was a betting market this is what I'd think too. It's how we worked Oscar in originally too, and in-house is a safer bet than us actually convincing someone to come over out of the blue.

 

[Nathan Barley]

If there was a betting market this is what I'd think too. It's how we worked Oscar in originally too, and in-house is a safer bet than us actually convincing someone to come over out of the blue.

Sounds like it won't be completely out of the blue though

 

[Nuggo]

Why do we have give up a pick of any worth to Richmond - they might be looking to off load some of the salary. If they aren't then Lynch will probably stay a Tiger.

 

[Squizz89]

FWIW Himmelberg has signed with the Suns, so he's off the table.

As Fages said last night we've known this was coming for 12 months now, so as Nathan Barley said if there is someone out there we've lined up, then we should be confident we've done the due diligence, and not just rushed a decision even though Joe's decision has just been made public.

 

[Hollow Knight]

That's Cooney's worst proposal ever by far, and that includes the Burger Ring.

 

[Tom14]

Think the only way we make any option work (Lynch or otherwise) where we have to actually pay draft capital, is by trading out a regular who might fetch a bit the other way. Still possible, given the exit meetings aren't till next week, otherwise I think we'll be looking to that DFA market, and even if it gets to that I still believe we need at least one for cover. We were already light on up there before Joe made his decision.

I forgot that I was going to include Dev in the hypothetical and maybe we get a future third back. Still don't see it making sense.

DFA route seems more likely.

Just need the 2025 Free Agent Key forwards to not be LOSERS and stay out of contract.

 

[Elixuh]

I can’t believe Cooney opted for the traditional drilled hole in the skull lobotomy.

 

[Lionwest]

Honestly one would think a child on school holidays has come up with that trade suggestion. To think he's a mature (perhaps the jury is out on that one) adult that was a former professional in this field and is getting paid to provide his opinion is really mind boggling. It's actually embarrassing!

 

[Bucking Beads]

That's Cooney's worst proposal ever by far, and that includes the Burger Ring.

It is overvaluing Mckay immensely.

 

[Helicon1]

It is overvaluing Mckay immensely.

That’s Essendon McKay type overvaluing.

 

[OG Loc]

Tweet deleted cause they were getting trolled so hard in the replies, so here's Cooney's Mega Trade if anyone missed it:

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Cooney pls

 

[Squizz89]

Cooney is a goose, but FWIW Zac is the one that if other clubs came sniffing and if he was interested in entertaining anything, then I'd also consider what those offers were.

 

[Helicon1]

Cooney is a goose, but FWIW Zac is the one that if other clubs came sniffing and if he was interested in entertaining anything, then I'd also consider what those offers were.

Do feel other clubs would see him as gettable.

 

[Tom14]

Whinging works:



Hard to see how perryman won't be Band 1 as well - likely we are out to Pick 20.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Cooney is a goose, but FWIW Zac is the one that if other clubs came sniffing and if he was interested in entertaining anything, then I'd also consider what those offers were.

As long as we value him on previous seasons form rather than how he played for the bulk of this season