List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Bucking Beads]

I’d expect Lewis is more of an option for us bringing in after 2025. We just don’t have the draft capital to make bigger moves this off season unless someone of note wants to leave. He’d be ok but there’s only so many ACL tears you’d want on the list.

There will be options for us. We will be creative and make things happen. Our squad is still very good and will just have to adapt and overcome a bit like we did this year.

 

[Clarkythelion]

Hello, congrats on the flag. As a matter of interest, how did you rate GWS? Better than Geelong and swans, or not quite as good.
Would you like a swap of Robertson for Harry Himmelberg?
Any other trades possible this off season between Brisbane, GWS?
Perhaps your 2025r1,r2,robertson for 19,21

I had GWS as playing the the GF at the start of the season, i thought you guys were big, strong, out of the limelight and hungry. GWS kinda reminded me of the Geelong teams the Lions faced a few years back, just big hard bodies that bullied teams. then during the season there seemed time of fragility, where minds just couldn't stay in the game for some reason, a team distracted not just single players. In the finals this showed up big time, what ever it is where a whole team just turns off you have to solve or you will continue to be just a good finals team. Like the suns whom cant win away from home, GWS need to work on their leaders to 'lead' when they see the momentum changes happening.

thanks for dropping into our group.

 

[Nuggo]

If Mitch Lewis and Doedee come good from July onwards it would certainly put us right into contention. But after acl's you never know what your going to get. Probable worth the role of the dice for me. Not really much out there the in terms KPF in any case.

 

[Gabba Gate 33]

Great time to invest in our academy and back our youth. Tom Gillett 200cm developing ruck forward. Has the size we are looking for and could have a year like Morris. Looked comfortable at VFL level.

 

[BrisVegasDru]

Couldnt help myself went to the Hawk Board to see the merit in that Lewis post, the guy who posted it didn't suggest what we might give up, but certainly gets treated like he has some inside knowledge.

Unsure if it's correct or not but supposedly Lewis went to Vegas with our boys last year, so perhaps he's friends with some of our list, supposedly annoyed about his injury history having had an injury incorrectly diagnosed as a sprain.

But brace yourselves the only way we can make it happen (i think) would be to trade a player as have zero spare draft picks and we love all our players

 

[Sauce Merrett]

They seem to think Lewis is the second coming of Jesus over there the way they are carrying on.

 

[Thomasno]

Lewis is REAL good, I see him a bit like Curnow was a few years ago - where Carlton fans knew he’d be the goods if he ever got on the park.

I actually like it.

He’d be cheaper than he otherwise would be, so we might be able to work something out with some Dom Ambrogio magic. We’d just have to back our medical staff in.

 

[Nuggo]

We never know who's keen to do something else (like playing in Melbourne) once they have won a premiership. Trade potential could be there.

 

[Sproj]

If Hawthorn the club feels like Hawthorn the fans, we run away. It doesn’t matter what he did 2-3 years ago with his injury history. He’s worth a future third or fourth and that’s it. If they want a first, we walk away. We don’t need him, we are not desperate. Getting him is a risk and and yes has potential for massive reward but also potential for another Doedee.

 

[LoganMorrisFan]

Hawks board suggesting Morris for Lewis. I dont think so pals

 

[FromOldFitzroy]

They seem to think Lewis is the second coming of Jesus over there the way they are carrying on.

Not Lewis, but Weddle, and to some extent Watson.
Quite surprised by some of what’s been posted on the Hawks board. It’s usually quite sensible, but 2 firsts, or Lohmann and a first, etc, for an injury riddled player?
Plus they fail to realise, or are ignoring, the fact we need points this year.

 

[Dalions]

Not Lewis, but Weddle, and to some extent Watson.
Quite surprised by some of what’s been posted on the Hawks board. It’s usually quite sensible, but 2 firsts, or Lohmann and a first, etc, for an injury riddled player?
Plus they fail to realise, or are ignoring, the fact we need points this year.

Lohmann was a first round pick a couple of years ago and Mitchell was taken at a pick in the 60’s or 70’s from memory.
No matter what Mitchell has done in the past, how is he possibly worth more than Lohmann right now?
Kidding themselves!

 

[lionsrules]

if this is all true they’ll value Lewis more than the general trade market and rightly so considering what they’ve invested in him. But the two ACL’s will bring the value down a bit and that’s why our guys are sniffing around. Im
Keen for the right price. We are only considering this guy because of how little (in our eyes) we think we might be able to hand over.

 

[Thomasno]

If Hawthorn the club feels like Hawthorn the fans, we run away. It doesn’t matter what he did 2-3 years ago with his injury history. He’s worth a future third or fourth and that’s it. If they want a first, we walk away. We don’t need him, we are not desperate. Getting him is a risk and and yes has potential for massive reward but also potential for another Doedee.

Agreed, while I’d love Lewis we shouldn’t sell the farm for him. Almost everyone they’ve suggested on the hawks board is off limits, if we can’t get it done with fringe players and future picks then it’s not worth it.

 

[Nuggo]

We are in the window, if there is ever a time for an aggressive trade it is now.

Even if it looks we have lost a bit in the trade. Just get it done!

 

[Gabba Gate 33]

We have to be prepared for guys leaving for more opportunities. So many good up and comers and the reality is you only get so many chances to cement yourself in a side. Offers would be coming for our fringe players.
Big money offers would be so tempting.

 

[Crusha]

Please, no Hawthorn ‘rejects.’
We had to pay a second rounder to move Gunston on and get Ryan.
(I think that’s right.)
On a positive note, if we hadn’t, Gunston could have been a premiership player with us.

I'm not so sure that he would have been the difference getting the VFL boys through the Prelim. Final .... let alone win a GF ............................................ (in the VFL)

 

[JasRulz63]

The other reason I don't see Hawthorn trading Lewis is their key forward stocks aren't that much better than ours sans Daniher. Dear who's a promising young forward, Chol who has question marks over his flakiness, Lewis who's coming off an ACL and a couple of project types.

 

[BuntonRules]

Have not read every page of this thread, but IMO people are underestimating the potential, ability and development of Henry Smith. Tell him he has the job for the first 6 weeks and watch him blossom.

The club has been aware of Joe for 12 months, so mayhap they fell the same.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Have not read every page of this thread, but IMO people are underestimating the potential, ability and development of Henry Smith. Tell him he has the job for the first 6 weeks and watch him blossom.

The club has been aware of Joe for 12 months, so mayhap they fell the same.

And if it doesn't work after 6 works? If Hippy gets injured?

 

[Elixuh]

If we recruit walking injury Lewis I will be canceling my fagan and asking for my membership to be sacked

 

[mpal6]

if this is all true they’ll value Lewis more than the general trade market and rightly so considering what they’ve invested in him. But the two ACL’s will bring the value down a bit and that’s why our guys are sniffing around. Im
Keen for the right price. We are only considering this guy because of how little (in our eyes) we think we might be able to hand over.

Far out, 2 ACLs and he won't get on park until middle of next year? And they want a first + morris or coleman or bailey or Lohmann?? Walk away now.

We overpayed for Brandon Ryan already which Hawks fans are conveniently forgetting. As well as sending Gunston back who was better for them this year, while mentoring Calsher Dear. Hope we don't do it again.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Lewis has only done 1 ACL right? What are people on about?

 

[Tom14]

If we recruit walking injury Lewis I will be canceling my fagan and asking for my membership to be sacked

If we recruit anyone who has ever attended a hawthorn game I’m going to send a stern letter to Fages.

 

[JasRulz63]

Lewis has only done 1 ACL right? What are people on about?

Think he's had a partial tear/sprain in 2023 (not requiring a reconstruction) and then a full tear in 2024.