List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[Blue and Silver]

No he didn't.

His parents live on the Gold Coast now. He's off north.

Apologies will edit post

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[Stamos]

John Noble requests a trade to SA.

Well I think I know how Port is going to replace Houston

Gold Coast, not SA

Collingwood defender requests trade to interstate club

The rebounding defender wants out.

www.sen.com.au

 

[Jatz]

Apologies will edit post

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In your defence, the Pies left it very vague. Just mentioned a club not in Victoria...

 

[TENACIOUS]

With the club not coming out and knocking this on the head today, means we’re probably in this up to our eyeballs…

It’s really going to put Austin under the spotlight, to negotiate… From the outside looking in he hasn’t been too good at the negotiating component…

Melbourne are backed into a bit of a corner here. Don’t see how they don’t trade him.

They have a player that reportedly:

• Officials mishandled his “life threatening” injuries and allowed him back on the field.
• Players and club officials never went to see him in hospital.
• Players weren’t aware he was allowed to go on a break, meaning they were still not in contact with him.
• Player and Petracca relationships soured, Patracca had to call his own meeting with his team mates.
• Player and Patracca relationships soured more after club even.
• Patracca requested a trade to Carlton in his exit interview.

Wouldn’t loose your mind over what we’d have to give up yet… Cost is all media driven by Sam McClure, who said Patracca would cost McKay, Cerra and our first round pick…

IMO this will get done, for less than is being bandied around, Melbourne have been negligent to Patracca and the relationship with players is becoming untenable…

Going to be a big trade period to get Petracca, Houston and Aleer done…

 

[Revenant1965]

As I've read it, both Charlie's and Harry's managers have said No. Assuming we somehow get both Trac and Houston (which I think is possible, but also difficult and on probabilities unlikely)... assuming we somehow get Tracand Houston, I'd struggle to see what draft capital we'd have left, and then how we address KPD depth for the 'now' and into the future...

 

[Stamos]

SEN's Trade Bell Mega Update on Petracca, McKay, Soldo, Owies, Davies-Uniacke and much more

Sam Edmund's enormous trade update ahead of the AFL Trade Period.

www.sen.com.au

“Nick Haynes

26

Nick Haynes

Age

32

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

played on the weekend. It’ll be his last season at the Giants ahead of a move to Carlton as an unrestricted free agent. This one should happen no issue.”

Matt Owies​

“He’s kicked the third most goals for Carlton and can’t get a new deal, in fact the Blues won’t even enter into negotiations with him. List spots are tight, the Camporeale twins are coming in, the cap is tight, he’s being made to wait. Caleb Marchbank, Jack Martin

19

Jack Martin

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

and David Cuningham

28

David Cuningham

Age

28

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.1

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

are all out of contract and facing uncertain futures.”

 

[Diamond Jim 007]

If we win v Brisbane with Charlie and Harry kicking say 6+ between them, then anyone thinking its a good idea to trade either of them will go silent.

Even if both are held goalless and we get flogged, I am not changing my view that trading either of them would be insane.

Trak has been living off silver service from Gawn for a long time. Teams have woken up to him running forward during clearances.
At 28 too old and expensive.
Melbourne would have to pay some of his salary and take lesser players like Kemp and Cerra.
Can't see that happening.
We need a big defender priority 1. This is the missing piece to a premiership.

 

[Kruezing]

With the club not coming out and knocking this on the head today, means we’re probably in this up to our eyeballs…

It’s really going to put Austin under the spotlight, to negotiate… From the outside looking in he hasn’t been too good at the negotiating component…

Melbourne are backed into a bit of a corner here. Don’t see how they don’t trade him.

They have a player that reportedly:

• Officials mishandled his “life threatening” injuries and allowed him back on the field.
• Players and club officials never went to see him in hospital.
• Players weren’t aware he was allowed to go on a break, meaning they were still not in contact with him.
• Player and Petracca relationships soured, Patracca had to call his own meeting with his team mates.
• Player and Patracca relationships soured more after club even.
• Patracca requested a trade to Carlton in his exit interview.

Wouldn’t loose your mind over what we’d have to give up yet… Cost is all media driven by Sam McClure, who said Patracca would cost McKay, Cerra and our first round pick…

IMO this will get done, for less than is being bandied around, Melbourne have been negligent to Patracca and the relationship with players is becoming untenable…

Going to be a big trade period to get Petracca, Houston and Aleer done…

We only need the last two … we need more pace in the middle not less

 

[DangerousD]

When he plays high HF or up to the wing he has shown to be handy I believe.

It looks like they’ve pushed him up the ground a few times - I like how he’s looked.

He mostly plays small forward of course which limits posessions.

He’s worth much more than we’d get, he’s a need - why the hell would we move him on???

Im assuming they dont and its just a case of Owies has offers at so many years and $$$$ and at this stage we aren’t in the same ballpark.

I can only assume this is why we have said he will have to wait until after the season to get an offer.

 

[Soapy V]

Haynes happening
Deep into Leek Aleer

If anything is happening around Petracca no one is talking about it

Focus is mostly on draft and some cheap trades (apparently we have targeted someone) as it has been all year

 

[Aphrodite]

Haynes happening
Deep into Leek Aleer

If anything is happening around Petracca no one is talking about it

Focus is mostly on draft and some cheap trades (apparentley we have targeted someone) as it has been all year

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Enough of the Petracca and Harry chat. Let’s bring it back!!!

How good is Lord going to be

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Im assuming they dont and its just a case of Owies has offers at so many years and $$$$ and at this stage we aren’t in the same ballpark.

I can only assume this is why we have said he will have to wait until after the season to get an offer.

Hope he holds his water, rather than letting rip, jumping to the highest bidder.

You might be right - some way between us & he possibly.

 

[Opium]

Haynes happening
Deep into Leek Aleer

If anything is happening around Petracca no one is talking about it

Focus is mostly on draft and some cheap trades (apparently we have targeted someone) as it has been all year

Thanks for sharing.

I can't see why we're chasing Haynes. Honestly did anyone see him on the weekend? He was horrendous and he'll be another year older. Makes no sense

 

[jj1978]

Love difference in terminoloy with clubs depending on player...

John Noble

2

John Noble

Age

28

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

home for personal reasons = "Pies - wish him all the best and fascilitat"
Petraca out due to negligence/issues = "Dees - **** no"

Translate - Noble is meh thank heavens we get something for him.

 

[bigblueboy]

Enough of the Petracca and Harry chat. Let’s bring it back!!!

How good is Lord going to be

This is going to exceed the Pavlich to Carlton palava across multiple trade periods. Strap yourself in.

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Give me Leek Alir at all costs.

 

[bigblueboy]

Thanks for sharing.

I can't see why we're chasing Haynes. Honestly did anyone see him on the weekend? He was horrendous and he'll be another year older. Makes no sense

Cannot possibly be worse than Young or Kemp. McGovern is regularly injured ... and out of contract at the end of next year.
Haynes makes sense as cheap reliable defender.

 

[Opium]

Cannot possibly be worse than Young or Kemp. McGovern is regularly injured ... and out of contract at the end of next year.
Haynes makes sense as cheap reliable defender.

Young has been good the last two weeks. Haynes is a terrible acquisition.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Haynes happening
Deep into Leek Aleer

If anything is happening around Petracca no one is talking about it

Focus is mostly on draft and some cheap trades (apparently we have targeted someone) as it has been all year

Aleer would be a great pick up. Would transform our defensive structures, and just turned 23yo.

Not interested at all in overpaying for Petracca or potentially Houston, especially where high draft picks are at a premium over the next few years.

 

[bigblueboy]

Haynes FA
Aleer R2
Petracca R1x2
Houston R1, R3
Camporeale x 2 R2, R4
Cerra, Docherty, JSOS back

Biggest gap becomes a better than average small forward.

Need to find three first rounders and two second rounders across the 24/25 drafts. We have two first rounders and two second rounders across those drafts already.
Highly improbable but not impossible. Make it happen Austin.

 

[Soapy V]

Thanks for sharing.

I can't see why we're chasing Haynes. Honestly did anyone see him on the weekend? He was horrendous and he'll be another year older. Makes no sense

Personally I'm not fussed on him either

Possible reasoning is depth for a year or so, development/coaching role within VFL (keeping it oustide of soft cap), he's a free hit and should be cheap. Obvious replacement for Marchbank and back up for McGovern while we bring in some young talent

 

[Stamos]

Haynes FA
Aleer R2
Petracca R1x2
Houston R1, R3
Camporeale x 2 R2, R4
Cerra, Docherty, JSOS back

Biggest gap becomes a better than average small forward.

Need to find three first rounders and two second rounders across the 24/25 drafts. We have two first rounders and two second rounders across those drafts already.
Highly improbable but not impossible. Make it happen Austin.

Are we just going to ignore the salary cap?

 

[Opium]

Cannot possibly be worse than Young or Kemp. McGovern is regularly injured ... and out of contract at the end of next year.
Haynes makes sense as cheap reliable defender.

Haynes is not a key defender. People are in for a rude awakening

 

[Soapy V]

My early call. I'm not fussed on Petracca or Houston. Cost and age worry me

If we get roughly

Haynes FA
Aleer for F2
Garcia for Pick 40
First round pick (Berry - sml fwd)
2 more good draft picks
Campo twins for 3rd round pick and rookie
Pick 30 for Owies
Pick 40 for Carroll

I will be very happy

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