List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[Taylor]

Can a player in an NGA tell the club they are linked to they don't want to be taken? If I were in the Eagles NGA right now I'd be saying thanks but no thanks.

I believe they can, the form seeks consent from a player and its why one club gets to nominate a player qualifying under multiple pathways, such as Father Son picks and Academy overlap.

I don't think any player would though

 

[Ysaye]

Out of curiosity, am I the only one who isn't fussed about getting or missing Warner? Have said for years he's overrated and I still believe this.

I think he'd compliment our midfield nicely, but I also don't think he's worth crazy money.

I am ambivalent about most of the trade targets, but I acknowledge that we should be trying to force trades with our draft picks without getting ripped off. Warner is a good player and I don't have an issue in slightly overpaying for him, because those draft picks will probably take ages before they hit AFL level and it takes a clearly best 18 player out of a premiership rival. But if we can't make it happen then I am not going to be fussed.

I believe they can, the form seeks consent from a player and its why one club gets to nominate a player qualifying under multiple pathways, such as Father Son picks and Academy overlap.

I don't think any player would though

Lachie Scholl fell under this set of rules didn't he?

 

[Taylor]

I am ambivalent about most of the trade targets, but I acknowledge that we should be trying to force trades with our draft picks without getting ripped off. Warner is a good player and I don't have an issue in slightly overpaying for him, because those draft picks will probably take ages before they hit AFL level and it takes a clearly best 18 player out of a premiership rival. But if we can't make it happen then I am not going to be fussed.

Lachie Scholl fell under this set of rules didn't he?

I think the best example is Marc Murphy, should have been a father son to Brisbane but said no.

Dunkley to Sydney similar.

Blakey was a father son to North before Sydney got him in their academy. They were campaigning for him quite a while before the choice was made.

 

[Bender571]

Good, that whole pick 40 threshold was absurd, made the NGA pretty much meaningless for us. Why would a club invest so much in players that they most likely can't even get?

You can still get the occasional Walker or Draper out of it.

 

[Ge3ks]

Motlop would have been handy though.

 

[s_wd6]

You can still get the occasional Walker or Draper out of it.

What was the deal with Walker? Wasn’t really following the draft that year. Was he expected to go higher or was 50 about where everyone expected him to go?

 

[freo_leo29]

What was the deal with Walker? Wasn’t really following the draft that year. Was he expected to go higher or was 50 about where everyone expected him to go?

Expected to go a little bit higher tbh

like 30-50 range (this was before the changes though, he was always coming to us)

 

[Lach72]

What was the deal with Walker? Wasn’t really following the draft that year. Was he expected to go higher or was 50 about where everyone expected him to go?

Was Walker and Western. About 30-50 was the hope and they both went 50+

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

What was the deal with Walker? Wasn’t really following the draft that year. Was he expected to go higher or was 50 about where everyone expected him to go?

When we moved up the draft to pick NOD, the people covering the draft talked about how that was a smart move to get ahead of a potential Walker bid. Maybe teams from then on thought there was little point being campaigners and bidding high on someone they weren't getting (not that it stopped Carlton with Henry somehow getting bid higher than Tom Green).

 

[Megalon]

You can still get the occasional Walker or Draper out of it.

Good call, I forgot Walker went at pick 50 and Draper was a Cat B rookie. Walls does so well with late and speculative picks. But still, not being able to bid on our NGA picks until so late is rubbish

 

[s_wd6]

Good call, I forgot Walker went at pick 50 and Draper was a Cat B rookie. Walls does so well with late and speculative picks. But still, not being able to bid on our NGA picks until so late is rubbish

We have had a lot more late NGA failures than successes though. Scaife got picked up by hawks but I don’t believe anyone else has had any success in even the WAFL

 

[freo_leo29]

We have had a lot more late NGA failures than successes though. Scaife got picked up by hawks but I don’t believe anyone else has had any success in even the WAFL

Medhat went alright In the wafl for a few years


Carter still gets a run, has swapped teams a couple times

 

[mayne iac]

I'd love to get motlop, need to get in his ear and burn Carlton.

 

[oldgoat]

Out of curiosity, am I the only one who isn't fussed about getting or missing Warner? Have said for years he's overrated and I still believe this.

I think he'd compliment our midfield nicely, but I also don't think he's worth crazy money.

Watching Dogs today I wasn't coveting any of Sydney's assets.
If someone wants to come, let's have a chat.
Make your case.
I really like what we've got.

 

[Duz97]

full credit to JOM and Wagner fully bought into roles and look like best 22 easily now. Couldn’t stand JOM early but been a very handy player since the bye and hopefully this is what we get till he retires

 

[TheMcManusNose]

Out of curiosity, am I the only one who isn't fussed about getting or missing Warner? Have said for years he's overrated and I still believe this.

I think he'd compliment our midfield nicely, but I also don't think he's worth crazy money.

I've happened to watch the last 4 Sydney games and tbh I don't disagree.

He has absolutely taken us and some other teams apart but drifts in and out of games and week to week you're not sure what you're getting.

That said he's really the exact player the midfield lacks. Pace and kicks goals. I think he'd almost be better in our team than Sydney.

If we don't break the bank and we aren't giving up more than 2 mid/late firsts then absolutely let's get him.

 

[Purple Suit]

I've happened to watch the last 4 Sydney games and tbh I don't disagree.

He has absolutely taken us and some other teams apart but drifts in and out of games and week to week you're not sure what you're getting.

That said he's really the exact player the midfield lacks. Pace and kicks goals. I think he'd almost be better in our team than Sydney.

If we don't break the bank and we aren't giving up more than 2 mid/late firsts then absolutely let's get him.

He also did it in a GF while the rest of the team got flogged, so recon he’ll be fine in big moments.

 

[wakojako]

I've happened to watch the last 4 Sydney games and tbh I don't disagree.

He has absolutely taken us and some other teams apart but drifts in and out of games and week to week you're not sure what you're getting.

That said he's really the exact player the midfield lacks. Pace and kicks goals. I think he'd almost be better in our team than Sydney.

If we don't break the bank and we aren't giving up more than 2 mid/late firsts then absolutely let's get him.

Warner is not the main man, he is the cream and capitalises off his midfield work just like Bolton does. He can be extremely lethal if you give him the supply. Although saying that he is only 23 and still a few years away from his prime which is the most exciting part.

 

[DragoDelph]

Warner is not the main man, he is the cream and capitalises off his midfield work just like Bolton does. He can be extremely lethal if you give him the supply. Although saying that he is only 23 and still a few years away from his prime which is the most exciting part.

Noticed this a bit, he cheats forward of the contest, banking on the other mids to win it.

With serong and bray in there to to do the hard stuff and the defensive stuff, plus speed at half back and wing to cover, could be lethal here.

 

[Bigger]

Warner or Kosi Pickett are the only two blokes I’d bother chasing.

And I’m a grumpy old prick who hates everyone not Freo.

 

[purplerunsdeep2]

Re: champion and WCE likely to get first dibs on him

All well and good but if we bid on him, and WCE don't have the picks (which they don't atm), nor value him enough against thier current crop of small forwards, nor want to go into pick point deficit, we may force their hand to pass

Which I'm all for


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[Docker82]

Re: champion and WCE likely to get first dibs on him

All well and good but if we bid on him, and WCE don't have the picks (which they don't atm), nor value him enough against thier current crop of small forwards, nor want to go into pick point deficit, we may force their hand to pass

Which I'm all for


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Don't value him high enough against their current smalls? Against who exactly - Liam Ryan and a bunch of hacks? Not sure any of their other small forwards bar Brockman would even be considered for games elsewhere tbh.

 

[FUS_RO_DAH]

Re: champion and WCE likely to get first dibs on him

All well and good but if we bid on him, and WCE don't have the picks (which they don't atm), nor value him enough against thier current crop of small forwards, nor want to go into pick point deficit, we may force their hand to pass

Which I'm all for


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True, but if we bid on him West Coast will be forced to match to save face.

Because as has been firmly established, we are their grand final

 

[purplerunsdeep2]

True, but if we bid on him West Coast will be forced to match to save face.

Because as has been firmly established, we are their grand final

Exactly

Given their holes everywhere, us getting them to take a small forward is some nice shenanigans


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[pK75]

Re: champion and WCE likely to get first dibs on him

All well and good but if we bid on him, and WCE don't have the picks (which they don't atm), nor value him enough against thier current crop of small forwards, nor want to go into pick point deficit, we may force their hand to pass

Which I'm all for


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Was thinking about this as well, if we bid with saints second (after WC has used theirs) would they have the points to match (if the AFL revised the points system to drop off by the end of the 2nd round)?