List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[rgauci]

Delist / trade: Corbett, Kuek, Stanley, Taberner, Hughes, Williams

I’d probably move Delean to the rookie list.

Does anyone have an up to date understanding of who’s on the main list, who’s rookie listed?

I know Voss replaced one of our long term injured players, either Corbett or Kuek… does that mean he’s taking up a main list spot?

 

[Dockeroo]

I think we will turn over 7 or 8 players this off season between trading and delisting. In recent seasons we have been below the average list turnover for the AFL. I think it was 5 or 6 guys last season.

For what it’s worth this is what I think will happen:
Delist

• Hughes
• Kuek
• Corbett
• Taberner
• Stanley
• Williams

Delist but re-rookie post draft

• O’Driscoll
• Emmett
• Voss

(I actually think there is still a chance one of these 3 players may be delisted, probably Voss or NOD. We delisted Taylin Duman

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Taylin Duman

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.0

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.5

4star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.0

2star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

4star

D

12.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

4star

in the past after he played several AFL games in their last year).

One year deals:
Reidy (based on last weeks reports)
Banfield (unless he looks for a FA move elsewhere)
Jones.

Two year deal
Sturt (takes him though to 8 year free agency)
Knobel (if they genuinely think he will be an AFL level ruck)

Trade:
Brodie
Erasmus (i hope not but if he requests a trade which appears quite possible it’s a decision to make)

Incoming -
Baker and Bolton
A few draft picks to fill the list with promising kids.
Probably one of the Irish lads

 

[Taylor]

It's a minimum of three list changes from the primary list and all three can be added again in the draft if you're so inclined.

 

[mightymouse75]

You do realize we traded 2 firsts and a second for Jackson as we were looking for a premiership.
We are not going to make finals this year.
We better take some of our first rounders to the draft as we haven't finished the rebuild yet

 

[Vintage]

He's 30 next year.

Our defense is actually good. We're number 1. Draper is playing reasonably well as cover.

Pearce, Cox, Draper, Chapman, Walker, Clark, Wagner is a very solid back 7. There's growth in Draper and Chapman to come. I don't see why we would even consider attempting to poach McGovern.

Seems harsh on Luke Ryan

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You do realize we traded 2 firsts and a second for Jackson as we were looking for a premiership.
We are not going to make finals this year.
We better take some of our first rounders to the draft as we haven't finished the rebuild yet

I'd like to take one to the draft ideally but yes, we have finished the rebuild. We have as much talent as anyone, it's about execution and that final 5%. We are "this" close to being a genuine contender

 

[dont bowl there]

I'd like to take one to the draft ideally but yes, we have finished the rebuild. We have as much talent as anyone, it's about execution and that final 5%. We are "this" close to being a genuine contender

It will be a massive opportunity wasted if we don't use at least 2 of the first round picks on established players via trade.

 

[Purple Suit]

You do realize we traded 2 firsts and a second for Jackson as we were looking for a premiership.
We are not going to make finals this year.
We better take some of our first rounders to the draft as we haven't finished the rebuild yet

We won’t make finals with that attitude.

 

[malpaso]

I think we will turn over 7 or 8 players this off season between trading and delisting. In recent seasons we have been below the average list turnover for the AFL. I think it was 5 or 6 guys last season.

For what it’s worth this is what I think will happen:
Delist

• Hughes
• Kuek
• Corbett
• Taberner
• Stanley
• Williams

Delist but re-rookie post draft

• O’Driscoll
• Emmett
• Voss

(I actually think there is still a chance one of these 3 players may be delisted, probably Voss or NOD. We delisted Taylin Duman in the past after he played several AFL games in their last year).

One year deals:
Reidy (based on last weeks reports)
Banfield (unless he looks for a FA move elsewhere)
Jones.

Two year deal
Sturt (takes him though to 8 year free agency)
Knobel (if they genuinely think he will be an AFL level ruck)

Trade:
Brodie
Erasmus (i hope not but if he requests a trade which appears quite possible it’s a decision to make)

Incoming -
Baker and Bolton
A few draft picks to fill the list with promising kids.
Probably one of the Irish lads

I don't think you can lose both Stanley and NOD. That leaves our wing position very vulnerable.

 

[Alfonz]

2 x Cat B (Draper, Williams*)
7 x Cat A (Sharp, Worner, Voss*, Jones*, Reidy*, Kuek*, Stanley*)
36 on main list (including Banfield*, Hughes*, Corbett*, Knobel*, Taberner*, O'Driscoll*, Sturt*, Emmett*)
45 total
*out of contract according to footywire

Footywire lists McDonald as a rookie, but draftguru has him on the main list. I thought we had to start the year with minimum 36 on the main list, so I'm going with draftguru. It gets a bit confusing to me, cause the AFL rules (see Appendix 1 on page 185) say a maximum of 44 on the 2024 list, but we have 45.

Anyway, it seems we could open 2 spots on the main list by delisting cat A rookies. I don't think we will cut as hard as some are suggesting. I think it will be the obvious 3 from the main list (Taberner, Hughes, Corbett), then 2 from Cat A, and Williams from Cat B. I would cut a bit harder personally, but I don't see it happening.

This brings us down to 39 total with 33 on the main list. My guess would be Draper, Bolton and Baker to the main list, meaning 36 on the main list, and 41 total players. Then we have 3 or 4 (depending on main list size of 44 or 45) spots free across the whole list, of which up to 2 can be on the main list. Obviously I am ignoring any trade outs.

 

[Taylor]

Draper will come to the primary list end of 2025 for the 2026 season.

 

[Lach72]

There is a player there in Stanley.


If we bring in two established players in the <25 age bracket there is no need to berserk delisting.

 

[pK75]

2 x Cat B (Draper, Williams*)
7 x Cat A (Sharp, Worner, Voss*, Jones*, Reidy*, Kuek*, Stanley*)
36 on main list (including Banfield*, Hughes*, Corbett*, Knobel*, Taberner*, O'Driscoll*, Sturt*, Emmett*)
45 total
*out of contract according to footywire

Footywire lists McDonald as a rookie, but draftguru has him on the main list. I thought we had to start the year with minimum 36 on the main list, so I'm going with draftguru. It gets a bit confusing to me, cause the AFL rules (see Appendix 1 on page 185) say a maximum of 44 on the 2024 list, but we have 45.

Anyway, it seems we could open 2 spots on the main list by delisting cat A rookies. I don't think we will cut as hard as some are suggesting. I think it will be the obvious 3 from the main list (Taberner, Hughes, Corbett), then 2 from Cat A, and Williams from Cat B. I would cut a bit harder personally, but I don't see it happening.

This brings us down to 39 total with 33 on the main list. My guess would be Draper, Bolton and Baker to the main list, meaning 36 on the main list, and 41 total players. Then we have 3 or 4 (depending on main list size of 44 or 45) spots free across the whole list, of which up to 2 can be on the main list. Obviously I am ignoring any trade outs.

McDonald is a main list, we picked him up after the rookie draft as a DFA but before the SSP (where we go Sharp and Voss)
The reason we have 45 (and 7 rookies) is because we placed Corbett on the inactive list and replaced him with Voss on the rookie list. So we only have 35 main list active players and 7 rookies to take us to 42 plus the two cat b rookies to get us to 44.

Only point in delisting Williams is if we take one of the Irish lads as a cat b or think there’s an NGA who won’t get bid on and we want as a cat b, though none seem to be there this year.

Edit: as for main vs rookie list, we can easily move Wagner and McDonald from the main list to the rookie list as they are both free agents for life anyway

 

[Cobbler]

Seems harsh on Luke Ryan

Haha. Oversight. He does make a compelling argument to squeeze into a back 8.

 

[FreoRicci]

I'm sorry but that's a rubbish call on JOM. Clubs don't pay out two years of contract unless off field issues are involved. I doubt you could find one example let alone an example of Sam Mitchell doing it.

Similarly the club won't talk Walters and/or Fyfe into retirement unless they're the ones starting the conversation.

You're clutching at straws to try keep players that haven't shown anything.

I very much think Hughes, Taberner, Corbett and Kuek are gone. Stanley is that guy we might keep if there's a trade out we don't know about. In reality though I actually think it's more likely we see more delisted than I've said rather than less.

Why?
It’s a shocking contract. Is he really going to fit in the next two years ? He’s 31. How is he going to improve his output?

Club has to admit they tried to quick fix the Mundy retirement with JOM, and it has spectacularly failed.

 

[FreoRicci]

We need to delist most of those guys just to comply with AFL rules.

I won’t be disappointed if we delist any of the players you’ve mentioned other than Voss. They’re not AFL standard and don’t add to our depth - Reidy might actually, the others don’t.

Stanley has disappointed me this season. If you’ve been watching WAFL you’ve watched different games than I have. The stats don’t tell a different picture either - sub-15 disposals isn’t good enough and what he does with those touches isn’t overly impressive.

To be fair. Stanley has had an ankle injury that took some time to rehab/get over.
NOD is the same. He hasn’t been right for the last two seasons, finally has had some continuity

 

[apuchar]

I think we will turn over 7 or 8 players this off season between trading and delisting. In recent seasons we have been below the average list turnover for the AFL. I think it was 5 or 6 guys last season.

For what it’s worth this is what I think will happen:
Delist

• Hughes
• Kuek
• Corbett
• Taberner
• Stanley
• Williams

Delist but re-rookie post draft

• O’Driscoll
• Emmett
• Voss

(I actually think there is still a chance one of these 3 players may be delisted, probably Voss or NOD. We delisted Taylin Duman in the past after he played several AFL games in their last year).

One year deals:
Reidy (based on last weeks reports)
Banfield (unless he looks for a FA move elsewhere)
Jones.

Two year deal
Sturt (takes him though to 8 year free agency)
Knobel (if they genuinely think he will be an AFL level ruck)

Trade:
Brodie
Erasmus (i hope not but if he requests a trade which appears quite possible it’s a decision to make)

Incoming -
Baker and Bolton
A few draft picks to fill the list with promising kids.
Probably one of the Irish lads

Delisting NOD even to rookie would be one of the dumbest things Freo could do. And there have been a lot of dumb things.

 

[blue shark]

Why?
It’s a shocking contract. Is he really going to fit in the next two years ? He’s 31. How is he going to improve his output?

Club has to admit they tried to quick fix the Mundy retirement with JOM, and it has spectacularly failed.

Hawks paid they reckon 750 grand to move on JOM and Mitchell to Pies of
their contracts.

 

[Taylor]

Imagine if Richmond do the same with Bolton.

 

[FreoRicci]

Hawks paid they reckon 750 grand to move on JOM and Mitchell to Pies of
their contracts.

Very smart of them.
Look at them now.

 

[CapitalA]

Warner have been horrendous lately.
Sydney will ask for so many first rounders. Wow wee he’s a front runner.
Des Headland vibes

Pretty sure it was Warner and Heeney that carried the swans come back last week

 

[apuchar]

True, but it was only one quarter by the pair of them. Just an exceptional one by both. Heeney especially.

 

[Midnite65]

True, but it was only one quarter by the pair of them. Just an exceptional one by both. Heeney especially.

Yet Warner voted 3rd best on ground.

 

[Dockeroo]

Delisting NOD even to rookie would be one of the dumbest things Freo could do. And there have been a lot of dumb things.

Fourth year, non key position player that hasnt played a minute of AFL footy this season? I’d say that is quite a standard run of the mill candidate for getting the chop.

I’m not saying they should get rid of him either but what’s the long term game here? He’s 22 years old now. Where will he play next season? Another year at Peel.
Sharp has gone well past him and even Banfield who is not even a proper wingman.


I like NOD but he hasn’t played anywhere near enough AFL footy the last two years to be certain of a spot in 2025.

The likes of Reidy is different. The club makes allowances for KPP especially rucks.

 

[go_the_dockers]

I thought Darcy was ok last year, really surprised his stats have dropped that much the last few years.



Luke Jackson

9

Luke Jackson

Age

23

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

2star

K

3.3

1star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

2star

G

0.3

3star

D

8.3

3star

K

3.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

G

0.3

3star

not really improve as much as we must have hoped.



Sean Darcy

4

Sean Darcy

Age

26

Ht

203cm

Wt

111kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

28.8

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

20.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

32.0

5star

stats - going backwards since 2021