List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

Who is the dream “actually a chance” pickup

  • Liam Baker

    Votes: 39 10.4%
  • McDonald

    Votes: 14 3.7%
  • Chad Warner

    Votes: 180 48.0%
  • Charlie Curnow

    Votes: 15 4.0%
  • Shai Bolton

    Votes: 67 17.9%
  • serial_thrilla

    Votes: 3 0.8%
  • Pickett

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Pickett, Bolton

    Votes: 63 16.8%
  • Pickett, Warner, Winder and Richards

    Votes: 4 1.1%

  • Total voters
    375
  • Poll closed .

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We seemed to stop leading in the last 1/4 of the season. Sturt and Treacy were the only ones. We may have just run out of steam.
Either that or they have lost confidence in players actually honouring the lead and blazing away instead.
 
So does Switta. not sure we need two of them when we already have Simpson waiting in the wings. But Freo will take him if available I'm sure.
We need as many good decision makers and users of the ball we can afford. Will push those that constantly fumble out of the team.
 

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We need as many good decision makers and users of the ball we can afford. Will push those that constantly fumble out of the team.
Just don't think he makes enough difference for the price and the draft pick it will take. But as I said if he will come to Freo we will take him. More to save JL's arse than anything else.
 
Just don't think he makes enough difference for the price and the draft pick it will take. But as I said if he will come to Freo we will take him. More to save JL's arse than anything else.
He's out of contract so it shouldnt take much to get him. We just need to offer more than WC and Baker actually state he wants to come to us.
 
He's out of contract so it shouldnt take much to get him. We just need to offer more than WC and Baker actually state he wants to come to us.
That's the other bit I don't like. It's smelling a bit like Kelly, with Baker not really wanting to come to us. I imagine he will only agree to us if WC can't get a deal done.
 
We can't give away picks 9,10 for Bolton. We still need to keep adding elite talent.

If the following players were not contracted for 2024 (I know some are not), would they be on our list:

  • JOM
  • Aish
  • Hughes
  • Emmett
  • Corbett
  • Walters
  • Fyfe
  • Worner
  • Kuek
  • Stanley
  • Delean - is he going to make it?
I hope Walls is clear eyed about where our list sits. We have some elite talent, but too many triers who can't handle playing against better teams.
 
We can't give away picks 9,10 for Bolton. We still need to keep adding elite talent.

If the following players were not contracted for 2024 (I know some are not), would they be on our list:

  • JOM
  • Aish
  • Hughes
  • Emmett
  • Corbett
  • Walters
  • Fyfe
  • Worner
  • Kuek
  • Stanley
  • Delean - is he going to make it?
I hope Walls is clear eyed about where our list sits. We have some elite talent, but too many triers who can't handle playing against better teams.
Think delean needs another 12 months.

Was always going to take some time hopefully another pre season he can show his worth.
 
We can't give away picks 9,10 for Bolton. We still need to keep adding elite talent.

If the following players were not contracted for 2024 (I know some are not), would they be on our list:

  • JOM
  • Aish
  • Hughes
  • Emmett
  • Corbett
  • Walters
  • Fyfe
  • Worner
  • Kuek
  • Stanley
  • Delean - is he going to make it?
I hope Walls is clear eyed about where our list sits. We have some elite talent, but too many triers who can't handle playing against better teams.
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After he was rumoured to be spending time with women not legally old enough to drink while his partner was at home with their new baby I decided I didn't like him
Who cares.
This annoys me to no end.
Dustin Martin was chopsticking people and out on the grog.
Fremantle would’ve just throw him out.
Instead he’s the best clutch player of all time having played 300 games.
De Goey is the same. Guess what?
Stringer, De Goey and Martin have all won premierships.

Sick of this culture where players have to be nice and respectful. Where has that gotten us?

Getting nice guys like JOM, Switta because they fit the culture plus Alex Pearce as our captain, who’s such a chill guy.

Don’t have one big game cocky player.
West Coast got Harley Reid and he wants to be that. I can’t say one player on the team is willing to be a dickhead and drag his team across the line. Dangerfield did this two weeks ago as well.

Stringer kicked 4 v Ryan in that 1 point loss. De Goey destroyed our midfield in the 2022 Semi Final.

That’s the difference really.

Would love to get Warner. He has that swagger and confidence to just be a big game winner. Then finally can push out spurs like JOM, Banfield out of the side
 
The problem is, their best only appeared once all season. Walters v Crows and Fyfe v Dogs (1st time).

You can't carry them around for 10-15 games hoping to get a blinder when the average games are so poor.
You're only pointing out the absolute apex of performance. There were still a lot of games Fyfe and Walters (especially Fyfe) had significant positive contributions throughout the season. And just on those specific standout games, we've had 14 players receive coaches votes in multiple games this year. They're 2 of those 14.

Also to me, I don't think it's that difficult to anticipate which matches they'd generally be worse in. Fyfe got 10+ CPs in every game pre-bye that he wasn't either subbed off or on in. He did the same once post-bye (vs Sydney). Sonny magically looked a lot better in the full games he played when he wasn't clearly hampered with the hand issues.

Playing basically every game when fit, playing through injuries, fairly high centre bounce attendance, getting the run-with/defensively orientated role for whole games...does that sound like the sort of thinking that gives them the best shot of contributing in a limited but high impact manner? Or does it sound like the sort of dumb decisions that give their old bodies further hurdles to overcome, and then we have to pretend to be shocked when they don't consistently overcome them.

Especially in a team like this one that seems to need winning experience (not JOM's experience), I think strongarming them out of here is dumb. If they want to retire on their own volition and think they can't go next season, it should be completely their own free choice, not the club trying to "push them out with dignity".
 
I'd hold on to Delean, Emmett also.
Aish and JOM as depth.
Worner needs to translate what he does in the wafl into AFL.
Stanley??
Aish lost his way a bit but still feel he's quite capable.

Emmett is a second year player. Actually think he'll be serviceable. Perhaps not best 22 but the type we can bring in if there's an injury or two and he'll at least offer something. We saw that in some of his games.

Stanley is probably getting delisted in the real world but in a world where one or two contracted players are out of contract I actually think he's given another year.

Not sure about Kuek. Never seems these mature agers that still require heaps of development work out all that well tbh.
 
Midfield needs improving, starting trio is fine, Brayshaw, Serong and Young are elite. Next few leave a lot to be desired. Willam Drew is awesome for Port. Who’s our 4th to 6th? Johnson, JOM, Sharp, Fyfe leave a lot to be desired. NOD was refreshing inclusion late in the year.
 
Midfield needs improving, starting trio is fine, Brayshaw, Serong and Young are elite. Next few leave a lot to be desired. Willam Drew is awesome for Port. Who’s our 4th to 6th? Johnson, JOM, Sharp, Fyfe leave a lot to be desired. NOD was refreshing inclusion late in the year.
Need to wait for Johnson and/or Erasmus to get to the required level unfortunately.

Outside of them and NOD, the cupboard is extremely bare.

If Brodie was the answer you're not asking the right question.
 
Midfield needs improving, starting trio is fine, Brayshaw, Serong and Young are elite. Next few leave a lot to be desired. Willam Drew is awesome for Port. Who’s our 4th to 6th? Johnson, JOM, Sharp, Fyfe leave a lot to be desired. NOD was refreshing inclusion late in the year.
Start by pushing the older players out.
Erasmus and Johnson have big pre seasons, both in.
 
Rumour is Carlton are looking at bringing in Trac and Houston. Carlton are willing to offload Harry McKay to make it happen.
 

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