List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

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We don't need Richards if Switta stays. He can just be a pure pressure forward since Bolton and Warner are far better mid rotations.

Yeah I’m not sure about that.

We still need one more goal kicker up front.
Bolton takes one spot but I’d rather nit be playing any of Banfield, Walters or Emmett
 
If we snag Bolton and Warner, I’d leave Baker to west Coast and take Joe Richards instead. Cheaper in salary and more of a need
Will he come here though if we are getting Bolton & Kossi is on the radar for the future?

Surely Carlton or other vic clubs will be all over him. We only get the WA player scraps.
 
Yeah I’m not sure about that.

We still need one more goal kicker up front.
Bolton takes one spot but I’d rather nit be playing any of Banfield, Walters or Emmett

We really don't, Bolton and Warner would be our 3rd and 4th highest goal kickers this year and Sturt (who would be 3rd on averages) only played half the season.


What we'd need far more is pressure. So if Richards is good at that, I'm ok with it on that front, but I can't see how he is B22 unless there are some role changes.
 

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We really don't, Bolton and Warner would be our 3rd and 4th highest goal kickers this year and Sturt (who would be 3rd on averages) only played half the season.


What we'd need far more is pressure. So if Richards is good at that, I'm ok with it on that front, but I can't see how he is B22 unless there are some role changes.

He’s pretty decent imo.

The next thing is to firm up O’Driscoll.

He needs to be taking O’Meara’s wing from him with Banfield as back up. Banners plays better in that winger role imo.
 
O'Driscoll and O'Meara were already swapping through the wing role that last game, but Nathan was moving to the stoppage once the position restrictions moved and Jaeger moved from the forward line to the wing.

O'Driscoll is clearly higher impact at the stoppages, or closer to them at least.

The wing role sucks. Objectively sucks.
 
His dad works in Victoria and that's where the parents spend most of their time. I said including his parents for a reason eg not his whole diret family. Its also he case that Warner's extended family live in Victoria and thats where Chad spent his early ears. Im speaking to a friend of his parents in a couple of weeks. Pretty sure the younger bros are boarders.
The Warners live in Willeton and yes they go to Aquinas but are 100% not boarders. I dunno where you are hearing they spent most the time in Victoria it’s simply not true
 
O'Driscoll and O'Meara were already swapping through the wing role that last game, but Nathan was moving to the stoppage once the position restrictions moved and Jaeger moved from the forward line to the wing.

O'Driscoll is clearly higher impact at the stoppages, or closer to them at least.

The wing role sucks. Objectively sucks.
The wing is what it is. It's very important for transition obviously and to either provide an extra at the contest or the get out option close or down the line. You gotta be prepared for low disposals.

But I think the coming off season would be great to integrate O'Driscoll into the mid rotations. We need more options in there just for starters and he seemed right at home in there in that last quarter against the Giants. They missed a trick not playing him more in there against Port when we needed some oomph in the middle. He really can bring that dynamism. Still needs more fitness I'd say.
 
The hate towards JOM is a little excessive. Yes he had a slow start to the season after some delays in the PS. Yes he had some games where he didn’t perform to the required level.

He played some different roles for the team in 2024. Some new roles. Not sure that wing is his best position but with some injuries and lack of depth in the role he fulfilled the Wing role with stints at HF and HB. He made a bad decision to play on late in the GWS game. He played well in the game against WC and ok against Port. The three games in between were average. Sharp has some average games on the other wing also.

What is driving me coco is the calls that Will Brodie should have played instead of him. Brodie is no good on the wing. Had very short stints at Peel and didn’t go well. Brodie has a terrible tank. Like back of the running time trial packs.

There is an article about his personal best time trial in his last pre-season at Gold Coast. The article also mentioned that all the boys were finished and clapping him and he encouraging him to the end.

I also then read we need to play Erasmus instead of JOM. I’m an advocate for Erasmus but Erasmus also doesn’t form part of the wing rotation. Erasmus for mine is similar to Fyfe just smaller in body size. He needs to start to replace Fyfe next year. Fyfe to be managed, play sub etc. Erasmus to be brought into the mix more.

I do agree that JOM due to his pecking order now in the team will be in and out of rotations - incl. sub and some games at Peel. Walters, and Aish have dropped to this level. Fyfe unlikely to play at Peel but instead managed more often.

Also the talk about the Meek loss to Hawks being a result of us bringing in JOM is rubbish. We used one of the picks from Lobb to bring in JOM. His first year salary basically paid by Hawks. There many clubs interested in Meek - incl. West Coast. He chose Hawks. Regardless of whether the last min trade of JOM happened or not Meek was on his way to the Hawks.

I have to put up with Eagle supporters telling me consistently now how we lost another good player and players get better after they leave Freo. At the end of the day I’m actually pleased for Meek. He served his time as an understudy developing away at Peel. At one point he was playing a lot of WAFL reserves and found his way into the league side playing full back. What it shows me is our development programs are very good and our talent identification is also very good especially for ruckmen. Hence interest it seems from other clubs in both Reidy and Knobel.
 
The hate towards JOM is a little excessive. Yes he had a slow start to the season after some delays in the PS. Yes he had some games where he didn’t perform to the required level.

He played some different roles for the team in 2024. Some new roles. Not sure that wing is his best position but with some injuries and lack of depth in the role he fulfilled the Wing role with stints at HF and HB. He made a bad decision to play on late in the GWS game. He played well in the game against WC and ok against Port. The three games in between were average. Sharp has some average games on the other wing also.

What is driving me coco is the calls that Will Brodie should have played instead of him. Brodie is no good on the wing. Had very short stints at Peel and didn’t go well. Brodie has a terrible tank. Like back of the running time trial packs.

There is an article about his personal best time trial in his last pre-season at Gold Coast. The article also mentioned that all the boys were finished and clapping him and he encouraging him to the end.

I also then read we need to play Erasmus instead of JOM. I’m an advocate for Erasmus but Erasmus also doesn’t form part of the wing rotation. Erasmus for mine is similar to Fyfe just smaller in body size. He needs to start to replace Fyfe next year. Fyfe to be managed, play sub etc. Erasmus to be brought into the mix more.

I do agree that JOM due to his pecking order now in the team will be in and out of rotations - incl. sub and some games at Peel. Walters, and Aish have dropped to this level. Fyfe unlikely to play at Peel but instead managed more often.

Also the talk about the Meek loss to Hawks being a result of us bringing in JOM is rubbish. We used one of the picks from Lobb to bring in JOM. His first year salary basically paid by Hawks. There many clubs interested in Meek - incl. West Coast. He chose Hawks. Regardless of whether the last min trade of JOM happened or not Meek was on his way to the Hawks.

I have to put up with Eagle supporters telling me consistently now how we lost another good player and players get better after they leave Freo. At the end of the day I’m actually pleased for Meek. He served his time as an understudy developing away at Peel. At one point he was playing a lot of WAFL reserves and found his way into the league side playing full back. What it shows me is our development programs are very good and our talent identification is also very good especially for ruckmen. Hence interest it seems from other clubs in both Reidy and Knobel.
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Banfield
Walters
Emmett

Whatever we do these guys need to not be in our forward line in 2025. So Bolton, Pickett, Richards, Baker are all viable and have a place.

Banfield to me is actually a better option on the wing than JOM if he can up his endurance, more like a defensive winger. Feel gross saying this.
 
Any truth to this Flagmantle blokes claim that Darcy’s knee injury is bone on bone and will be cooked forever
 

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Anyone catch Ryan Daniels on Triple M just then? He claimed to have some news about Chad Warner but I missed it.
 
Any truth to this Flagmantle blokes claim that Darcy’s knee injury is bone on bone and will be cooked forever

That's from Ryan Daniels. Bone on bone isn't a death sentence and can be managed. It will mean that Darcy will have to drop a little weight.
 
The Warners live in Willeton and yes they go to Aquinas but are 100% not boarders. I dunno where you are hearing they spent most the time in Victoria it’s simply not true
So I was told that by someone who said they were friends with the family I'll see them in a few weeks. I'll ask for more details. I was told their parents were spending way more time in Victoria due to business.
 
The list decisions are relatively straightforward this year:

Voss - sign
Reidy - sign
NOD - sign
Knobel - sign
Jones - sign or cut
Emmett - cut but potentially rookie
Tabs - cut
Hughes - cut
Corbett - cut
Kuek - cut
Stanley - cut (I do like but spots are tight)
Williams - cut

That leaves 4 main list spots (Bolton & 3x ND picks) plus a couple of rookies depending how things end up.

We always seem to lose or trade players so another spot could open up. Not really a fan of getting Martin but like the idea of filling a late rookie spot with a SSP over another rookie so wouldn’t be terribly upset if they go in that direction.
 
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The list decisions are relatively straightforward this year:

Voss - sign
Reidy - sign
NOD - sign
Knobel - sign
Jones - sign or cut
Emmett - cut but potentially rookie
Tabs - cut
Hughes - cut
Corbett - cut
Kuek - cut
Stanley - cut (I do like but spots are tight)

That leaves 4 main list spots (Bolton & 3x ND picks) plus a couple of rookies depending how things end up.

We always seem to lose or trade players so another spot could open up. Not really a fan of getting Martin but like the idea of filling a late rookie spot with a SSP over another rookie so wouldn’t be terribly upset if they go in that direction.
Agree with Stanley a bit there, but we need the space.
 
The hate towards JOM is a little excessive. Yes he had a slow start to the season after some delays in the PS. Yes he had some games where he didn’t perform to the required level.

He played some different roles for the team in 2024. Some new roles. Not sure that wing is his best position but with some injuries and lack of depth in the role he fulfilled the Wing role with stints at HF and HB. He made a bad decision to play on late in the GWS game. He played well in the game against WC and ok against Port. The three games in between were average. Sharp has some average games on the other wing also.

What is driving me coco is the calls that Will Brodie should have played instead of him. Brodie is no good on the wing. Had very short stints at Peel and didn’t go well. Brodie has a terrible tank. Like back of the running time trial packs.

There is an article about his personal best time trial in his last pre-season at Gold Coast. The article also mentioned that all the boys were finished and clapping him and he encouraging him to the end.

I also then read we need to play Erasmus instead of JOM. I’m an advocate for Erasmus but Erasmus also doesn’t form part of the wing rotation. Erasmus for mine is similar to Fyfe just smaller in body size. He needs to start to replace Fyfe next year. Fyfe to be managed, play sub etc. Erasmus to be brought into the mix more.

I do agree that JOM due to his pecking order now in the team will be in and out of rotations - incl. sub and some games at Peel. Walters, and Aish have dropped to this level. Fyfe unlikely to play at Peel but instead managed more often.

Also the talk about the Meek loss to Hawks being a result of us bringing in JOM is rubbish. We used one of the picks from Lobb to bring in JOM. His first year salary basically paid by Hawks. There many clubs interested in Meek - incl. West Coast. He chose Hawks. Regardless of whether the last min trade of JOM happened or not Meek was on his way to the Hawks.

I have to put up with Eagle supporters telling me consistently now how we lost another good player and players get better after they leave Freo. At the end of the day I’m actually pleased for Meek. He served his time as an understudy developing away at Peel. At one point he was playing a lot of WAFL reserves and found his way into the league side playing full back. What it shows me is our development programs are very good and our talent identification is also very good especially for ruckmen. Hence interest it seems from other clubs in both Reidy and Knobel.

It’s all interesting.

Personally, I think it’s the 4 year deal that seemed crazy and from that you expect more. He’s in the leadership group. On field, there’s an argument he’s not a leader.

I think it’s a worthy debate, when there should be no debate.

I would hope there’s significant phasing out of Fyfe, JOM, Walters and Aish who are currently all ‘safe’ selections.

Carry maybe one.
 
The list decisions are relatively straightforward this year:

Voss - sign
Reidy - sign
NOD - sign
Knobel - sign
Jones - sign or cut
Emmett - cut but potentially rookie
Tabs - cut
Hughes - cut
Corbett - cut
Kuek - cut
Stanley - cut (I do like but spots are tight)

That leaves 4 main list spots (Bolton & 3x ND picks) plus a couple of rookies depending how things end up.

We always seem to lose or trade players so another spot could open up. Not really a fan of getting Martin but like the idea of filling a late rookie spot with a SSP over another rookie so wouldn’t be terribly upset if they go in that direction.
Straightforward? Yes and no.

Kuek is one of a few tricky ones. They've persevered with him as a longer term investment for a few years now, sunk cost fallacy or hold for more return this year?...it'd be one for summing up.

O'Driscoll's signature value could be tricky if he took to the idea of walking out on a club that had supported him so much through injury.

Emmett has shown enough glimpses as a second year player to give at least another year. Good trade presents itself, it might be take and run.

Jones needs more time. A single season on a list ain't generally in the cut table range. He's definitely up for at least one more year your think.
 
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It’s all interesting.

Personally, I think it’s the 4 year deal that seemed crazy and from that you expect more. He’s in the leadership group. On field, there’s an argument he’s not a leader.

I think it’s a worthy debate, when there should be no debate.

I would hope there’s significant phasing out of Fyfe, JOM, Walters and Aish who are currently all ‘safe’ selections.

Carry maybe one.
Personally with the shortage of hardened experience game day, I would want more desperation and edge from O'Meara.

On the other hand, given his injury history, there's probably a sense from the coaching group of better having him out there giving what he's giving, than sidelined in the rehab group all the time.
 
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