List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

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O'Driscoll and O'Meara were already swapping through the wing role that last game, but Nathan was moving to the stoppage once the position restrictions moved and Jaeger moved from the forward line to the wing.

O'Driscoll is clearly higher impact at the stoppages, or closer to them at least.

The wing role sucks. Objectively sucks.
 
Sherriff Incorporated said:
His dad works in Victoria and that's where the parents spend most of their time. I said including his parents for a reason eg not his whole diret family. Its also he case that Warner's extended family live in Victoria and thats where Chad spent his early ears. Im speaking to a friend of his parents in a couple of weeks. Pretty sure the younger bros are boarders.
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The Warners live in Willeton and yes they go to Aquinas but are 100% not boarders. I dunno where you are hearing they spent most the time in Victoria it’s simply not true
 
Taylor said:
O'Driscoll and O'Meara were already swapping through the wing role that last game, but Nathan was moving to the stoppage once the position restrictions moved and Jaeger moved from the forward line to the wing.

O'Driscoll is clearly higher impact at the stoppages, or closer to them at least.

The wing role sucks. Objectively sucks.
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The wing is what it is. It's very important for transition obviously and to either provide an extra at the contest or the get out option close or down the line. You gotta be prepared for low disposals.

But I think the coming off season would be great to integrate O'Driscoll into the mid rotations. We need more options in there just for starters and he seemed right at home in there in that last quarter against the Giants. They missed a trick not playing him more in there against Port when we needed some oomph in the middle. He really can bring that dynamism. Still needs more fitness I'd say.
 

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The hate towards JOM is a little excessive. Yes he had a slow start to the season after some delays in the PS. Yes he had some games where he didn’t perform to the required level.

He played some different roles for the team in 2024. Some new roles. Not sure that wing is his best position but with some injuries and lack of depth in the role he fulfilled the Wing role with stints at HF and HB. He made a bad decision to play on late in the GWS game. He played well in the game against WC and ok against Port. The three games in between were average. Sharp has some average games on the other wing also.

What is driving me coco is the calls that Will Brodie should have played instead of him. Brodie is no good on the wing. Had very short stints at Peel and didn’t go well. Brodie has a terrible tank. Like back of the running time trial packs.

There is an article about his personal best time trial in his last pre-season at Gold Coast. The article also mentioned that all the boys were finished and clapping him and he encouraging him to the end.

I also then read we need to play Erasmus instead of JOM. I’m an advocate for Erasmus but Erasmus also doesn’t form part of the wing rotation. Erasmus for mine is similar to Fyfe just smaller in body size. He needs to start to replace Fyfe next year. Fyfe to be managed, play sub etc. Erasmus to be brought into the mix more.

I do agree that JOM due to his pecking order now in the team will be in and out of rotations - incl. sub and some games at Peel. Walters, and Aish have dropped to this level. Fyfe unlikely to play at Peel but instead managed more often.

Also the talk about the Meek loss to Hawks being a result of us bringing in JOM is rubbish. We used one of the picks from Lobb to bring in JOM. His first year salary basically paid by Hawks. There many clubs interested in Meek - incl. West Coast. He chose Hawks. Regardless of whether the last min trade of JOM happened or not Meek was on his way to the Hawks.

I have to put up with Eagle supporters telling me consistently now how we lost another good player and players get better after they leave Freo. At the end of the day I’m actually pleased for Meek. He served his time as an understudy developing away at Peel. At one point he was playing a lot of WAFL reserves and found his way into the league side playing full back. What it shows me is our development programs are very good and our talent identification is also very good especially for ruckmen. Hence interest it seems from other clubs in both Reidy and Knobel.
 
Superkoops said:
The hate towards JOM is a little excessive. Yes he had a slow start to the season after some delays in the PS. Yes he had some games where he didn’t perform to the required level.

He played some different roles for the team in 2024. Some new roles. Not sure that wing is his best position but with some injuries and lack of depth in the role he fulfilled the Wing role with stints at HF and HB. He made a bad decision to play on late in the GWS game. He played well in the game against WC and ok against Port. The three games in between were average. Sharp has some average games on the other wing also.

What is driving me coco is the calls that Will Brodie should have played instead of him. Brodie is no good on the wing. Had very short stints at Peel and didn’t go well. Brodie has a terrible tank. Like back of the running time trial packs.

There is an article about his personal best time trial in his last pre-season at Gold Coast. The article also mentioned that all the boys were finished and clapping him and he encouraging him to the end.

I also then read we need to play Erasmus instead of JOM. I’m an advocate for Erasmus but Erasmus also doesn’t form part of the wing rotation. Erasmus for mine is similar to Fyfe just smaller in body size. He needs to start to replace Fyfe next year. Fyfe to be managed, play sub etc. Erasmus to be brought into the mix more.

I do agree that JOM due to his pecking order now in the team will be in and out of rotations - incl. sub and some games at Peel. Walters, and Aish have dropped to this level. Fyfe unlikely to play at Peel but instead managed more often.

Also the talk about the Meek loss to Hawks being a result of us bringing in JOM is rubbish. We used one of the picks from Lobb to bring in JOM. His first year salary basically paid by Hawks. There many clubs interested in Meek - incl. West Coast. He chose Hawks. Regardless of whether the last min trade of JOM happened or not Meek was on his way to the Hawks.

I have to put up with Eagle supporters telling me consistently now how we lost another good player and players get better after they leave Freo. At the end of the day I’m actually pleased for Meek. He served his time as an understudy developing away at Peel. At one point he was playing a lot of WAFL reserves and found his way into the league side playing full back. What it shows me is our development programs are very good and our talent identification is also very good especially for ruckmen. Hence interest it seems from other clubs in both Reidy and Knobel.
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Banfield
Walters
Emmett

Whatever we do these guys need to not be in our forward line in 2025. So Bolton, Pickett, Richards, Baker are all viable and have a place.

Banfield to me is actually a better option on the wing than JOM if he can up his endurance, more like a defensive winger. Feel gross saying this.
 
Any truth to this Flagmantle blokes claim that Darcy’s knee injury is bone on bone and will be cooked forever
 
Anyone catch Ryan Daniels on Triple M just then? He claimed to have some news about Chad Warner but I missed it.
 
Duz97 said:
Any truth to this Flagmantle blokes claim that Darcy’s knee injury is bone on bone and will be cooked forever
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That's from Ryan Daniels. Bone on bone isn't a death sentence and can be managed. It will mean that Darcy will have to drop a little weight.
 
andreww90 said:
The Warners live in Willeton and yes they go to Aquinas but are 100% not boarders. I dunno where you are hearing they spent most the time in Victoria it’s simply not true
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So I was told that by someone who said they were friends with the family I'll see them in a few weeks. I'll ask for more details. I was told their parents were spending way more time in Victoria due to business.
 

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The list decisions are relatively straightforward this year:

Voss - sign
Reidy - sign
NOD - sign
Knobel - sign
Jones - sign or cut
Emmett - cut but potentially rookie
Tabs - cut
Hughes - cut
Corbett - cut
Kuek - cut
Stanley - cut (I do like but spots are tight)
Williams - cut

That leaves 4 main list spots (Bolton & 3x ND picks) plus a couple of rookies depending how things end up.

We always seem to lose or trade players so another spot could open up. Not really a fan of getting Martin but like the idea of filling a late rookie spot with a SSP over another rookie so wouldn’t be terribly upset if they go in that direction.
 
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Patty_Moz said:
The list decisions are relatively straightforward this year:

Voss - sign
Reidy - sign
NOD - sign
Knobel - sign
Jones - sign or cut
Emmett - cut but potentially rookie
Tabs - cut
Hughes - cut
Corbett - cut
Kuek - cut
Stanley - cut (I do like but spots are tight)

That leaves 4 main list spots (Bolton & 3x ND picks) plus a couple of rookies depending how things end up.

We always seem to lose or trade players so another spot could open up. Not really a fan of getting Martin but like the idea of filling a late rookie spot with a SSP over another rookie so wouldn’t be terribly upset if they go in that direction.
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Agree with Stanley a bit there, but we need the space.
 
Superkoops said:
The hate towards JOM is a little excessive. Yes he had a slow start to the season after some delays in the PS. Yes he had some games where he didn’t perform to the required level.

He played some different roles for the team in 2024. Some new roles. Not sure that wing is his best position but with some injuries and lack of depth in the role he fulfilled the Wing role with stints at HF and HB. He made a bad decision to play on late in the GWS game. He played well in the game against WC and ok against Port. The three games in between were average. Sharp has some average games on the other wing also.

What is driving me coco is the calls that Will Brodie should have played instead of him. Brodie is no good on the wing. Had very short stints at Peel and didn’t go well. Brodie has a terrible tank. Like back of the running time trial packs.

There is an article about his personal best time trial in his last pre-season at Gold Coast. The article also mentioned that all the boys were finished and clapping him and he encouraging him to the end.

I also then read we need to play Erasmus instead of JOM. I’m an advocate for Erasmus but Erasmus also doesn’t form part of the wing rotation. Erasmus for mine is similar to Fyfe just smaller in body size. He needs to start to replace Fyfe next year. Fyfe to be managed, play sub etc. Erasmus to be brought into the mix more.

I do agree that JOM due to his pecking order now in the team will be in and out of rotations - incl. sub and some games at Peel. Walters, and Aish have dropped to this level. Fyfe unlikely to play at Peel but instead managed more often.

Also the talk about the Meek loss to Hawks being a result of us bringing in JOM is rubbish. We used one of the picks from Lobb to bring in JOM. His first year salary basically paid by Hawks. There many clubs interested in Meek - incl. West Coast. He chose Hawks. Regardless of whether the last min trade of JOM happened or not Meek was on his way to the Hawks.

I have to put up with Eagle supporters telling me consistently now how we lost another good player and players get better after they leave Freo. At the end of the day I’m actually pleased for Meek. He served his time as an understudy developing away at Peel. At one point he was playing a lot of WAFL reserves and found his way into the league side playing full back. What it shows me is our development programs are very good and our talent identification is also very good especially for ruckmen. Hence interest it seems from other clubs in both Reidy and Knobel.
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It’s all interesting.

Personally, I think it’s the 4 year deal that seemed crazy and from that you expect more. He’s in the leadership group. On field, there’s an argument he’s not a leader.

I think it’s a worthy debate, when there should be no debate.

I would hope there’s significant phasing out of Fyfe, JOM, Walters and Aish who are currently all ‘safe’ selections.

Carry maybe one.
 
Patty_Moz said:
The list decisions are relatively straightforward this year:

Voss - sign
Reidy - sign
NOD - sign
Knobel - sign
Jones - sign or cut
Emmett - cut but potentially rookie
Tabs - cut
Hughes - cut
Corbett - cut
Kuek - cut
Stanley - cut (I do like but spots are tight)

That leaves 4 main list spots (Bolton & 3x ND picks) plus a couple of rookies depending how things end up.

We always seem to lose or trade players so another spot could open up. Not really a fan of getting Martin but like the idea of filling a late rookie spot with a SSP over another rookie so wouldn’t be terribly upset if they go in that direction.
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Straightforward? Yes and no.

Kuek is one of a few tricky ones. They've persevered with him as a longer term investment for a few years now, sunk cost fallacy or hold for more return this year?...it'd be one for summing up.

O'Driscoll's signature value could be tricky if he took to the idea of walking out on a club that had supported him so much through injury.

Emmett has shown enough glimpses as a second year player to give at least another year. Good trade presents itself, it might be take and run.

Jones needs more time. A single season on a list ain't generally in the cut table range. He's definitely up for at least one more year your think.
 
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Cobbler said:
It’s all interesting.

Personally, I think it’s the 4 year deal that seemed crazy and from that you expect more. He’s in the leadership group. On field, there’s an argument he’s not a leader.

I think it’s a worthy debate, when there should be no debate.

I would hope there’s significant phasing out of Fyfe, JOM, Walters and Aish who are currently all ‘safe’ selections.

Carry maybe one.
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Personally with the shortage of hardened experience game day, I would want more desperation and edge from O'Meara.

On the other hand, given his injury history, there's probably a sense from the coaching group of better having him out there giving what he's giving, than sidelined in the rehab group all the time.
 
It’s a difficult balance for the coaching group. You have club greats in Fyfe and Walters. You have vets that are in the leadership group and you have mature agers that have bled purple, but the wheel needs to turn completely.

A team that has:
Fyfe
Walters
JOM
Banfield
Aish

And to a lesser degree:
Switta
Wagner

Is too much to ‘carry’. They’re all dependable, workmanlike players that on any given day can feature somewhere near our best 10 players on game day, but rarely top 5.

There’s also likely no upside to any of them.
 
FreoMatt said:
Delean has a contract for next year


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That hasn’t been an issue before.

Move him to the rookie list then.

At the end of the day I was responding to the West Australian article about Walters kicking on for another year. My feel is he should be retired again he has a year contract but those matters can be dealt with under the salary cap.

The fact remains if Walters stays on it will cost a younger player a list spot. Plain and simple. Whether that be Emmett or Delean. One of them will need to make way (potentially both and could find themselves on the rookie list).
 
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