List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

[Jen2310]

 

[Kirby]

These bids and trades are effing us up

 

[TradeDraft]

These bids and trades are effing us up

Sure are and Dragging this on

 

[jmac70]

 

[TradeDraft]

Saints Trade to Pick 45

 

[loki04]

I know people are desperate but I think we need to temper our expectations when it comes to any KPF prospects taken in our selection range.

Sure it's not impossible to find the next Nick Larkey but if you were to count up all the KPF prospects taken outside say the top 15 over the last decade we'd see how improbable it is to find such a diamond in the rough.

As it is it was sheer dumb luck more than excellent recruitment and we know this because in no way would any recruiter risk 72 selections taking place before calling his name if they knew what they had in Larkey.

In reality we probably stand a better chance of landing a decent KPD in our range more than a KPF.

It's been a couple of years since I've updated my deep dive on the recruitment history of Hine (who I'm a fan of) but our success rate when it comes to the 3rd round wasn't great reading if I recall (though pretty much on par with 2nd). How it compares to other recruiters I do not know.

List was originally compiled up until the 2022 mid season rookie draft .

The stats for the 2nd round:
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14 selections (John McCarthy excluded):

Hit: 3
2006 #28 Chris Dawes 121 games (71 for Collingwood)
2008 #29 Dayne Beams 177 games (119 for Collingwood)
2014 #30 Brayden Maynard *209 games

Pass: 2
2005 #21 Danny Stanley 88 games (5 for Collingwood)
2016 #35 Callum Brown F/S 70 games

Miss: 8
2004 #23 Sean Rusling 17 games
2005 #23 Ryan Cook 14 games
2012 #38 Jackson Ramsay 17 games
2015 #32 Brayden Sier 28 games
2016 #30 Sam McLarty 0 games
2018 #29 Will Kelly F/S 5 games
2019 #40 Jay Rantall 5 games
2020 #31 Liam McMahon 0 games

Yet to be determined: 1
2020 #30 Caleb Poulter *28 games (12 for Collingwood)

The stats for the 3rd round:
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20 selections:

Hit: 4
2004 #39 Travis Cloke F/S 256 games (246 for Collingwood)
2010 #45 Alex Fasolo 104 games (101 for Collingwood)
2017 #39 Nathan Murphy 57 games
2020 #44 Beau McCreery *77 games

Pass: 1
2005 #37 John Anthony 51 games (43 for Collingwood)

Miss: 14
2006 #44 Brad Dick 27 games
2007 #47 Tobias Thoolen 0 games
2008 #45 Jarrad Blight 0 games
2008 #46 Luke Rounds 6 games
2010 #46 Daniel Farmer 0 games
2010 #60 Kirk Ugle 3 games
2011 #50 Jackson Paine 16 games (12 for Collingwood)
2011 #65 Corey Gault 6 games
2014 #48 Matthew Goodyear 2 games
2016 #50 Kayle Kirby 1 game
2017 #50 Tyler Brown F/S 28 games (27 for Collingwood)
2019 #45 Trent Bianco 23 games
2021 #45 Arlo Draper 0 games
2021 #49 Cooper Murley 0 games

Still to be determined: 1
2021 #52 Harvey Harrison *16 games

If you're looking for a little hope the stats for round 4 were better:
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10 selections:

Hit: 6
2006 #63 Tyson Goldsack 165 games
2010 #76 Paul Seedsman 132 games (49 for Collingwood)
2011 #67 Jarrod Witts *181 games (40 for Collingwood)
2013 #65 Tom Langdon 89 games
2015 #58 Tom Phillips 115 games (89 for Collingwood)
2016 #57 Josh Daicos F/S *126 games

Pass: 1
2009 #62 Ben Sinclair 63 games

Miss: 3
2004 #55 Adam Iacobucci 4 games
2007 #61 Jaxson Barham F/S 7 games
2019 #55 Trey Ruscoe 18 games

Notable hits from round 5 and rookie selections:
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2009 #75 Josh Thomas 123 games

2004 #20 Heritier Lumumba 223 games (199 for Collingwood)
2005 #2 Alan Toovey 159 games
2006 #10 Sharrod Wellingham 171 games (92 for Collingwood)
2006 #26 Brent Macaffer 77 games
2008 #27 Jarryd Blair 157 games
2008 #69 Lachlan Keeffe *116 games (40 for Collingwood)
2011 #35 Marley Williams 128 games (68 for Collingwood)
2017 #22 Brody Mihocek *137 games
2019 #14 John Noble *(112 games for Collingwood)
2020 #13 Jack Ginnivan *65 games (42 for Collingwood)

You can't be serious listing Travis Cloke in that bracket when he was rated in top 5 if open draft.

T.Cloke was being hyped so far in advance of when we recruited Jason...

But other then that good post.

 

[TradeDraft]

Bloody Dragging it out

 

[Apex36]

I’m still so confused about why we did the pre-draft trade with Brisbane. There was absolutely no benefit to us.

 

[TradeDraft]

Good for us as I doubt Saints take a Tall

 

[barrackers]

Essendon trade out with StKilda at 45. Hopefully the saints don’t grab who we’re after.

 

[TradeDraft]

I’m still so confused about why we did the pre-draft trade with Brisbane. There was absolutely no benefit to us.

Just for the Sake of it

 

[stormskye]

I’m still so confused about why we did the pre-draft trade with Brisbane. There was absolutely no benefit to us.

We really need an answer to this

 

[Jen2310]

WTF Geelong

 

[TradeDraft]

Cats got Pokingholme DAM

 

[satanshoof101]

Jay Polkinghorne gone

 

[swoop42]

There goes another one.

 

[Rusty Beam]

I’m still so confused about why we did the pre-draft trade with Brisbane. There was absolutely no benefit to us.

Yep. You’d think there would be some kind of scratch our back deal involved.

 

[TradeDraft]

Davis be Picked by Eagles

Then we could take West or Dennis?

 

[GreekLunatic]

to cover Hawkins loss

 

[Ugene41]

Damn if only we could've done that trade and gotten a F2

 

[TradeDraft]

There goes another one.

Not a True Tall at least

 

[The Dawes]

Bloody Geelong
Arseclowns

 

[celestial]

Oh ffs mackie

 

[Piesinmyeyes]

Boxshall gone, Saints needed a midfielder.

 

[TradeDraft]

Boxell Gone - Knew we where Intrested

 

[Jen2310]

Ah, Boxshall.