List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

[Jen2310]

 

[manicpie]

Some talls options

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I think I like Rosenszweig

 

[sr36]

Charlie Nicholls.
You're welcome.

I've changed my tune:

 

[manicpie]

I've changed my tune:

I didn't know you were a Pet Shop Boys fan fonzie.

 

[sr36]

I didn't know you were a Pet Shop Boys fan fonzie.

I used to love them. Hadn't listened to them for years.

 

[Jen2310]

Lets see the footage I can find of these players.











No footage of Tallan.

 

[Jen2310]

My top 55, I would pay more attention to the tiers and not the set order per-say as its neck and neck with those tiers.

1-3
Jagga Smith 181cm
Levi Ashcroft 179cm
Finn O’Sullivan 182cm

4-9
Sid Draper 182cm
Sam Lalor 188cm
Bo Allan 191cm
Xavier Lindsay 183cm
Josh Smillie 195cm
Tobie Travaglia 187cm

10-20
Taj Hotton 182cm
Isaac Kako 176cm
Leo Lombard 179cm
Alix Tauru 193cm
Harvey Langford 190cm
Luke Trainor 194cm
Murphy Reid 180cm
Joe Berry 181cm
Harry Armstrong 195cm
Tom Gross 181cm
Jesse Dattoli 179cm

21-41
Jasper Alger 183cm
Jonty Faull 195cm
Jack Whitlock 200cm
Jobe Shanahan 195cm
Alex Dodson 201cm
James Barrat 194cm
Oliver Hannaford 180cm
Cody Anderson 183cm
Sam Marshall 185cm
Matt Whitlock 198cm
William Hayes 180cm
Harrison Oliver 181cm
Christian Moraes 183cm
Lennox Hofmann 190cm
Angus Clarke 188cm
Thomas Sims 199cm
Noah Mraz 198cm
Jack Ough 194cm
Cooper Hynes 190cm
Lachie Jacques 185cm
Kayle Gerreyn 199cm

42-55
Sam Davidson 190cm
Pheonix Hargrave 181cm
Floyd Burmeister 199cm
Jayden Nguyen 178cm
Charlie West 194cm
Rhys Unwin 179cm
Jacob Newton 179cm
Luke Urquhart 190cm
Ben Camporeale 185cm
Charlie Nicholls 197cm
Luke Kennedy 181cm
Harry O’Farrell 197cm
Hamish Davis 190cm
Hugh Boxshall 188cm

 

[Matt_352]

Where is Dennis actually projected to go? Looks the goods to me big time

 

[Jen2310]

Where is Dennis actually projected to go? Looks the goods to me big time

Not sure. RMC has him as Late. So guess anywhere from 40 onwards?

 

[greening22]

What do you think about Jack Ough just in case he becomes a bit of a slider? I think that it is unlikely but given past drafts there always seems to be at least 1 or 2 players who do slide, if not more. OK. Goodnight & good luck.

 

[Harry O]

I also see Smit as a key forward - not a ruck. So would be ok with a key defender, a midfielder and a forward of any type

Sorry - meant Steene

 

[Scodog10]

It always feels like drafting discussion is aimed at past holes rather than the only holes that can be filled - future roles.

You see the same with Melbourne and tall forwards and how it should be priority number 1. But everything is a need for the Dees. Brayshaw is already gone. Gawn is old. May is old. Viney isn't likely to be able to crash in the way he does for ever. Big clouds around Clarry and Tracs future at the Dees. And there's talk of Kosi wanting back to WA every year. Any gun they draft this year might not play much footy at all with their current stars.

Therein lies the rub of so many of the preferred targets on our board. Even if by some miracle the speculative KPP that we’ve never had luck with in the past kicks on and does something the earliest we’re likely to bear fruit from that decision is 2028. A draft haul of say Bice, Davidson and Brew would be roundly panned on here, but is infinitely more likely to impact within the next 2 years and probably beyond. Look at what Geelong were able to get from Mannagh and Humphries it almost drove them to a premiership v what they got from O’Sullivan who is highly likely to be better than anyone we speculate on in the 40’s or 50’s of this draft.

 

[sr36]

After some exhaustive research I've settled on Wil Rantall.

That hair needs to be in our team.

Have you considered this guy:

 

[sr36]

Therein lies the rub of so many of the preferred targets on our board. Even if by some miracle the speculative KPP that we’ve never had luck with in the past kicks on and does something the earliest we’re likely to bear fruit from that decision is 2028. A draft haul of say Bice, Davidson and Brew would be roundly panned on here, but is infinitely more likely to impact within the next 2 years and probably beyond. Look at what Geelong were able to get from Mannagh and Humphries it almost drove them to a premiership v what they got from O’Sullivan who is highly likely to be better than anyone we speculate on in the 40’s or 50’s of this draft.

The other interesting thing is strong preference for either a tall forward rather than a tall defender or vice versa - meanwhile all of our recent talls were playing the opposite end of the ground at 18. McStay and Checkers were defenders. Moore, Howe, Murphy, Frampton and Dean were forwards at 18.

 

[manicpie]

The other interesting thing is strong preference for either a tall forward rather than a tall defender or vice versa - meanwhile all of our recent talls were playing the opposite end of the ground at 18. McStay and Checkers were defenders. Moore, Howe, Murphy, Frampton and Dean were forwards at 18.

Charlie West looks like someone that could play forward or back. I'd be hoping for him.

 

[sr36]

Charlie West looks like someone that could play forward or back. I'd be hoping for him.

I want him too. Just looks powerful and really competitive. He's got a bit of Checkers about him.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

the speculative KPP that we’ve never had luck with in the past kicks on and does something the earliest we’re likely to bear fruit from that decision is 2028

Yes! That's exactly why you need to start devoting SOME resources to it now - Precisely because it takes a long time.

The best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago; the second best time is today.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

The other interesting thing is strong preference for either a tall forward rather than a tall defender or vice versa - meanwhile all of our recent talls were playing the opposite end of the ground at 18. McStay and Checkers were defenders. Moore, Howe, Murphy, Frampton and Dean were forwards at 18.

I definitely agree with this - Splitting hairs over positional need at this point is silly. I also think it's silly to worry about someone being 1-2cm shorter than ideal when they're 18 and it's fairly likely they could still grow that amount anyway.

 

[sr36]

I definitely agree with this - Splitting hairs over positional need at this point is silly. I also think it's silly to worry about someone being 1-2cm shorter than ideal when they're 18 and it's fairly likely they could still grow that amount anyway.

Doesn't matter if they grow or not. A few centimetres is nothing. Even if you weren't able to jump, use your body or make better position to the ball drop, a few centimetres wouldn't enable you to mark it, it doesn't get your whole hand above your opponent, so your opponent is still able to spoil. But throw in jumping, strength and body work and reading of the ball flight and timing and it just doesn't matter.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Doesn't matter if they grow or not. A few centimetres is nothing. Even if you weren't able to jump, use your body or make better position to the ball drop, a few centimetres wouldn't enable you to mark it, it doesn't get your whole hand above your opponent, so your opponent is still able to spoil. But throw in jumping, strength and body work and reading of the ball flight and timing and it just doesn't matter.

All of those things can make the difference of 1-2cm less significant, but growing 3cm erases it from existence as a concern.

 

[sr36]

All of those things can make the difference of 1-2cm less significant, but growing 3cm erases it from existence as a concern.

I just don't think it's a concern to begin with. All that should be a concern is whether the bloke can get his hands on the footy in a marking contest and whether he catches it or kills the contest when he does. It's not long ago that Leo Barry was twice All Australian as a 6 foot bloke who played full back on blokes of all sizes. I don't think they should even bother with a tape measure.

Are you trying to trigger Gone Critical with talk of post-draft growth spurts?

 

[Scodog10]

Yes! That's exactly why you need to start devoting SOME resources to it now - Precisely because it takes a long time.

The best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago; the second best time is today.

Firstly it’s debatable whether you’re planting the correct tree. Let’s say you are and it’s a sapling in this instance you’re planting a runty one that’s unlikely to ever flourish.

I’m not going to second guess the club if they pick say West (who does look the most handy of the talls on offer at our 1st pick), but the reality is he’s likely to be give or take the 10th KPP taken off the board when he’s selected. At that point of the draft you are getting say Keeler rather than Darcy 9.5 times out of 10.

 

[satanshoof101]

I want to put forward Luke Urquhart, his game against vic metro was really impressive. He played against a stacked midfield in Josh Smilie, Jagga Smith and Levi Ashcroft. He will be around our selections his kicking is pretty bad but can win the clearance and is a contested bull.

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