List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

[Jen2310]

 

[Scodog10]

It's not such a miracle needed. 1 in 3 blokes picked between 30-50 play 100 games. So we should be hoping to get one decent senior player from this draft haul.

And even if they may not technically be in that range yet - you can think of them like that considering it's considered a deeper draft than normal and they'll come in a bit.

The way I see it, we're old and need to add players in most positions over the next 3 years - which is when you'd hope these kids begin coming through. Just get us a couple of future good ones, Dekka, if they're tall that's an extra bonus. But if the recruiters see a big gap between the tall and small prospects, they should go with the higher rated ones. Not doing so would be silly.

The height fascination is becoming a struggle and we’re still two weeks out

With how the game is trending small forward is the area of need for that timeline, IMO. For me the loss of Richards, likely loss of Elliott within the next two years and HH’s ACL leave us exposed. Two of those guys were drafted in that range in the past 3 years so it’s not like they can’t be found.

The KPP roles could be padded out, but hits on them at that point of the draft are rare (especially so for us).

 

[Jen2310]

The height fascination is becoming a struggle and we’re still two weeks out

With how the game is trending small forward is the area of need for that timeline, IMO. For me the loss of Richards, likely loss of Elliott within the next two years and HH’s ACL leave us exposed. Two of those guys were drafted in that range in the past 3 years so it’s not like they can’t be found.

The KPP roles could be padded out, but hits on them at that point of the draft are rare (especially so for us).

I do think we'll prob need to draft another small forward because of those you mentioned, so Pie 4 Life selecting Josh Dolan in the BF draft makes sense.
But hopefully one tall, one mid and one small forward.

 

[Harry O]

I do think we'll prob need to draft another small forward because of those you mentioned, so Pie 4 Life selecting Josh Dolan in the BF draft makes sense.
But hopefully one tall, one mid and one small forward.

I also see Smit as a key forward - not a ruck. So would be ok with a key defender, a midfielder and a forward of any type

 

[Jen2310]

I also see Smit as a key forward - not a ruck. So would be ok with a key defender, a midfielder and a forward of any type

Do you? Thats interesting.
I think they'll train both him and steene forward and ruck

 

[greening22]

Mock/Phantom Draft Collingwood Selections:
2024 Telstra AFL Draft Combine List

	Essendon Board	Carlton Board	WBD Board	Poster: WilloTree	Draft Board	Official BF	Poster: eth-dog
1	Hugh Boxshall	Ned Bowman	Hugh Boxshall	Floyd Burmeister	Ned Bowman	Charlie Nicholls	Harry O'Farrell
2	Josh Dolan	Sam Davidson	Charlie Nicholls	Harry O'Farrell	Hugh Boxshall	Josh Dolan	Charlie Nicholls
3	TBC	Noah Mraz	Ollie Warburton	Archer Day-Wicks	Phoenix Hargrave	Floyd Burmeister	Pass

I am not overly impressed by the latter selections. However from what I have read & seen going into this National Draft, I would not be unhappy with any of Noah Mraz (although I think that he is likely to be picked up before our selections) Harry O'Farrell & Charlie Nicholls. I would be less bullish about Floyd Burmeister but could view him as a player whom I would take a punt on as a total "PROJECT" player given his physical attributes & his athleticism & height. We certainly do not need any more half-back flankers or small forwards & small-sized mid-fielders in my opinion. So a bloke like Hargrave - at 181 centimetres - is certainly not needed at this point in time.The same applies to Josh Dolan at 177 centimetres & also to Sam Davidson who is a small & lightweight mid-fielder from Queensland. As for Hugh Boxshall, he at least as a 188 centimetre mid-fielder might be a player that we could select with 1 of 3 selections, perhaps our final pick. I would be keener on Jack Ough but I think he will have been picked up earlier. As for a 186 centimetre forward such as Ned Bowman, that area is not a priority as we have enough mid-sized forwards. In turn, I would say that a 185 centimetre wingman/half-back such as Ollie Warburton is also not a priority area. Finally, I also think that Archer Day-Wicks will be selected earlier than our 3 selections. Overall, I think that we can do much better on Draft night/s if the chips fall our way in terms our final draft selections changing upwards. Goodnight & good luck.

 

[HoraceStrasbork]

I am not overly impressed by the latter selections. However from what I have read & seen going into this National Draft, I would not be unhappy with any of Noah Mraz (although I think that he is likely to be picked up before our selections) Harry O'Farrell & Charlie Nicholls. I would be less bullish about Floyd Burmeister but could view him as a player whom I would take a punt on as a total "PROJECT" player given his physical attributes & his athleticism & height. We certainly do not need any more half-back flankers or small forwards & small-sized mid-fielders in my opinion. So a bloke like Hargrave - at 181 centimetres - is certainly not needed at this point in time.The same applies to Josh Dolan at 177 centimetres & also to Sam Davidson who is a small & lightweight mid-fielder from Queensland. As for Hugh Boxshall, he at least as a 188 centimetre mid-fielder might be a player that we could select with 1 of 3 selections, perhaps our final pick. I would be keener on Jack Ough but I think he will have been picked up earlier. As for a 186 centimetre forward such as Ned Bowman, that area is not a priority as we have enough mid-sized forwards. In turn, I would say that a 185 centimetre wingman/half-back such as Ollie Warburton is also not a priority area. Finally, I also think that Archer Day-Wicks will be selected earlier than our 3 selections. Overall, I think that we can do much better on Draft night/s if the chips fall our way in terms our final draft selections changing upwards. Goodnight & good luck.

There is still business to be conducted on draft night. For example, the Lions have picks 27 & 34 which will need to be traded out when the pick for Ashcroft eventually comes. Be an opportunity for someone.

 

[Apex36]

There is still business to be conducted on draft night. For example, the Lions have picks 27 & 34 which will need to be traded out when the pick for Ashcroft eventually comes. Be an opportunity for someone.

Saints or the dogs.

 

[sr36]

There is still business to be conducted on draft night. For example, the Lions have picks 27 & 34 which will need to be traded out when the pick for Ashcroft eventually comes. Be an opportunity for someone.

Can you trade out after a player has been nominated? Seems teams always trade out before if they think their player may get a bid around their pick. Makes me think you can't. I doubt they'll have enough list spots to do it anyway, as trading out before would mean that they'd lose some of their later picks as they'd have more picks than list spots, which isn't allowed

 

[Jen2310]

Can you trade out after a player has been nominated? Seems teams always trade out before if they think their player may get a bid around their pick. Makes me think you can't. I doubt they'll have enough list spots to do it anyway, as trading out before would mean that they'd lose some of their later picks as they'd have more picks than list spots, which isn't allowed

Probably hard to do after they get bid upon given you only have 5 mins, so you would need to find a buyer.

 

[sr36]

Probably hard to do after they get bid upon given you only have 5 mins, so you would need to find a buyer.

Essendon for example would have been able to get a buyer lined up beforehand, but they didn't risk a bid on Kako - makes me think you can't trade out after a bid.

 

[Jen2310]

Essendon for example would have been able to get a buyer lined up beforehand, but they didn't risk a bid on Kako - makes me think you can't trade out after a bid.

Yeah. Maybe you can't. I can't recall if it's been done before.

 

[Scodog10]

I do think we'll prob need to draft another small forward because of those you mentioned, so Pie 4 Life selecting Josh Dolan in the BF draft makes sense.
But hopefully one tall, one mid and one small forward.

My only hope is hits I’m not particularly fussed by role other than having a preference for a small forward. My hope though is for a hit or two no matter the role. I’d be perfectly happy with three general defenders if that’s the path we chose and we wind up with a hit or two.

For all the carryon relating to trading picks between 2015-19 we’ve wound up poaching 4 best 23 fits since (Houston, Schultz, Hill and Lipinski) and the same will happen in future years across the 2021-2025 drafts, but in the meantime hits in any role reduces the reliance on trade.

 

[Scodog10]

Essendon for example would have been able to get a buyer lined up beforehand, but they didn't risk a bid on Kako - makes me think you can't trade out after a bid.

That one was weird. My guess is the Dees told them if they held pick “9” Kako wouldn’t get past the Dees pick. What I can’t figure out is why Essendon didn’t hold the pick and sell it to the highest bidder after trade week in the lead up to draft night. I guarantee North would have offered more for it WC or Adelaide too probably.

 

[sr36]

That one was weird. My guess is the Dees told them if they held pick “9” Kako wouldn’t get past the Dees pick. What I can’t figure out is why Essendon didn’t hold the pick and sell it to the highest bidder after trade week in the lead up to draft night. I guarantee North would have offered more for it WC or Adelaide too probably.

They got a lot of picks in this draft from Dees as well as their future first. It'll probably give them a couple of picks in the 40s after matching. They may have preferred those picks in this draft to an extra future second or whatever else they would have got instead.

 

[Jen2310]

draft guide

2024 AFL Draft Guide View

2024 AFL Draft Guide The 2024 AFL Draft Guide features individual full-page profiles on each of the available AFL Draft Combine invitees.

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[sr36]

My only hope is hits I’m not particularly fussed by role other than having a preference for a small forward. My hope though is for a hit or two no matter the role. I’d be perfectly happy with three general defenders if that’s the path we chose and we wind up with a hit or two.

For all the carryon relating to trading picks between 2015-19 we’ve wound up poaching 4 best 23 fits since (Houston, Schultz, Hill and Lipinski) and the same will happen in future years across the 2021-2025 drafts, but in the meantime hits in any role reduces the reliance on trade.

It always feels like drafting discussion is aimed at past holes rather than the only holes that can be filled - future roles.

You see the same with Melbourne and tall forwards and how it should be priority number 1. But everything is a need for the Dees. Brayshaw is already gone. Gawn is old. May is old. Viney isn't likely to be able to crash in the way he does for ever. Big clouds around Clarry and Tracs future at the Dees. And there's talk of Kosi wanting back to WA every year. Any gun they draft this year might not play much footy at all with their current stars.

 

[Jen2310]

Some talls options

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[Obese Arachnid]

Some talls options

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After some exhaustive research I've settled on Wil Rantall.

That hair needs to be in our team.

 

[celestial]

After some exhaustive research I've settled on Wil Rantall.

That hair needs to be in our team.

The quota for exotic hair style has been filled.

There can be only one....

 

[Jen2310]

After some exhaustive research I've settled on Wil Rantall.

That hair needs to be in our team.

Wonder how his family feels about us after delisting his brother lol

 

[Fat Jesus]

Some talls options

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Charlie Nicholls.
You're welcome.

 

[JuniorB]

Wonder how his family feels about us after delisting his brother lol

It's funny that he needs to work on his endurance, when his brother could run all day.
If we pick him, let's hope he's better at footy.

 

[Jen2310]

It's funny that he needs to work on his endurance, when his brother could run all day.
If we pick him, let's hope he's better at footy.

He's taller, has pace and has agility, probably ahead of his brother in that aspect

 

[JuniorB]

Adrian Cole is one whose profile reads pretty well, and is the type of player that would slot in well as more of a lockdown type defender.

 

[Jen2310]

Adrian Cole is one whose profile reads pretty well, and is the type of player that would slot in well as more of a lockdown type defender.

Yeah, if the saints dont want him, he would be a good option.