List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

[Jen2310]

 

[Jen2310]

The guy in blue really needs to get someone else to play him - I can't listen to him.

Thats Jonty Ralphsmith. He now works for the pakenham Gazette/star news. Used to do media for the sandy dragons and Frankston Dolphins

 

[satanshoof101]

We traded pick 58 for picks 60 66
58 = 170 points

60 + 66 = 226 points (equivalent of pick 54)

Our picks are 52, 55, 60, 66 = 679 points

AFL Draft Pick Value Calculator - Draftguru

Not sure if it helps us get up the draft board but that is the info we have.

 

[manicpie]

We traded pick 58 for picks 60 66
58 = 170 points

60 + 66 = 226 points (equivalent of pick 54)

Our picks are 52, 55, 60, 66 = 679 points

AFL Draft Pick Value Calculator - Draftguru

Not sure if it helps us get up the draft board but that is the info we have.

We might be after GC's pick 51. Otherwise it's hard to see the point

 

[sadako1999]

We might be after GC's pick 51. Otherwise it's hard to see the point

55 - Young Key Forward
56 - Young Key Defender
60 - Pass - Tomlinson
66 - Pass - Jack Hayes

Perfect.

 

[manicpie]

55 - Young Key Forward
56 - Young Key Defender
60 - Pass - Tomlinson
66 - Pass - Jack Hayes

Perfect.

Not sure we can do that but I like it a lot

 

[Daicosian silk]

We might be after GC's pick 51. Otherwise it's hard to see the point

If we don’t use it to package some picks to trade up then it suggests that maybe we are considering taking 4 players in the draft

 

[Jen2310]

55 - Young Key Forward
56 - Young Key Defender
60 - Pass - Tomlinson
66 - Pass - Jack Hayes

Perfect.

Can’t do it
Don’t have 4 senior list spots. And you need to promote a rookie to even take 2 in the draft
Which means only 1 rookie spot. Unless one of ash or Markov get selected In the rookie draft


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[sr36]

If we don’t use it to package some picks to trade up then it suggests that maybe we are considering taking 4 players in the draft

We can't take 4 picks into the draft.

 

[Scodog10]

We can't take 4 picks into the draft.

It suggests to me that we also plan to move 52 & 55 for a pick in the 40’s. No idea who with or when though.

 

[Soups]

So who we taking with our 4 picks?

 

[sr36]

It suggests to me that we also plan to move 52 & 55 for a pick in the 40’s. No idea who with or when though.

I think it's part one of a deal with Brisbane for pick 49. Only way I can see it making sense.

They get a slight points increase because they couldn't take both picks into the draft, so they've moved up to 58. We've actually traded our pick down, because we can only take one of them in to the draft.

After matching Ashcroft they'll trade 49 for two of our picks to further increase their points.

 

[TradeDraft]

We can't take 4 picks into the draft.

So why have 4 Picks Then?

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

So why have 4 Picks Then?

We have a bigger picture in mind. Who knows what it is. Most importantly, they do. Have faith.

 

[JOELY]

I think it's part one of a deal with Brisbane for pick 49. Only way I can see it making sense.

They get a slight points increase because they couldn't take both picks into the draft, so they've moved up to 58. We've actually traded our pick down, because we can only take one of them in to the draft.

After matching Ashcroft they'll trade 49 for two of our picks to further increase their points.

Getting pick 49 would allow us to slide one pick in front of Port, if we were hypothetically after a South Australian player we were worried they might take.

Edit. Ah, I didn't realise you said the same thing in the other thread.

 

[sr36]

Getting pick 49 would allow us to slide one pick in front of Port, if we were hypothetically after a South Australian player we were worried they might take.

Edit. Ah, I didn't realise you said the same thing in the other thread.

Unfortunately, they'll probably have an opportunity to jump back ahead of us if they really want to.

Pretty funny that pick 50 is the last gasp addition to the Houston trade that we're talking about. And if it was on the table earlier, there's a fair chance that it would have ended up with us and they would have kept 58.

 

[HoraceStrasbork]

I think it's part one of a deal with Brisbane for pick 49. Only way I can see it making sense.

They get a slight points increase because they couldn't take both picks into the draft, so they've moved up to 58. We've actually traded our pick down, because we can only take one of them in to the draft.

After matching Ashcroft they'll trade 49 for two of our picks to further increase their points.

Pick 49 should drop to around 42 to 44

 

[Obese Arachnid]

So over all the Hine and Co. bashing.

We won the flag just over 12 months ago, we lost a Preliminary final by 1pt a year before that.

We lost a GF by 5pts in 2018 and another Prelim by 4pts in 2019.

Our 2010 Premiership winning side was the youngest on average in 32 years (slightly younger than the famed baby Bombers) and it's not Hines fault the fallout from the coaching handover and a reliance on a rookie coach effectively cost us greater opportunity for more silverware in the proceeding years.

I'm grateful that Swan at least got one flag and Pendlebury, Sidebottom lasted long enough to land a second but that midfield group of Swan, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Beams and Thomas should have been capable of more.

IS goOd wE Dun hEF n E LOw PiX az hEinZe wOOd o KneE StUfF M

 

[Kes1984]

What was up with that weirdo pick swap with Brisbane? Don’t we want another brownlow medalist??!

 

[Jen2310]

What was up with that weirdo pick swap with Brisbane? Don’t we want another brownlow medalist??!

Assuming we want to move up the draft.

 

[sr36]

What was up with that weirdo pick swap with Brisbane? Don’t we want another brownlow medalist??!

With all the pick matching they've worked out that 66 becomes 58 - the Brownlow pick.

 

[celestial]

If essendons bid comes after pick 11, they can get away with not having to use picks 28 and 31.

Hopefully someone like north can force essendon to burn through all their picks. They have absolutely no reason to do it as they won't gain anything from it, it would just be to see essendon use up all their draft capital.

edit: well north have pick 62, if they force brisbane, gc and essendon to burn through their entire draft capital, norths pick 62 should come in a fair bit. Not sure they would do it, but they have something to gain, even if that something is as small as a pick shift into the mid to late 3rd round.

 

[Juan Ide]

Are picks draftable in the Rookie draft?

Any way we could move ahead of St Kilda, for example, to snag Brad Crouch

5

Brad Crouch

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.1

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

5.5

5star

CL

5.0

5star

D

20.3

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.2

5star

CL

2.6

5star

?

I realise it would be unforgivably bad form... but we could always offer them AJ and/or Oleg in recompense

 

[Hardas]

Are picks draftable in the Rookie draft?

Any way we could move ahead of St Kilda, for example, to snag Brad Crouch?

I realise it would be unforgivably bad form... but we could always offer them AJ and/or Oleg in recompense

Isn't Couch's body supposed to be cooked?

 

[Horaceg]

With all the pick matching they've worked out that 66 becomes 58 - the Brownlow pick.

Makes sense, hope he’s a Swanny type too

 

[Yoda_]

If essendons bid comes after pick 11, they can get away with not having to use picks 28 and 31.

Hopefully someone like north can force essendon to burn through all their picks. They have absolutely no reason to do it as they won't gain anything from it, it would just be to see essendon use up all their draft capital.

edit: well north have pick 62, if they force brisbane, gc and essendon to burn through their entire draft capital, norths pick 62 should come in a fair bit. Not sure they would do it, but they have something to gain, even if that something is as small as a pick shift into the mid to late 3rd round.

You would find history suggests that NGA and even father/sons often go later than most expect. I think only Jamara (at pick 1) was held to account. Even your own Nick Daicos was quite easily in the top 2 players of his draft year went at 4 despite every tom, dick, harry and the pool cleaners dog knowing full well you would match.

Kako has been projected to be a mid teens selections, missed a big patch at the back end of the year and has somehow grown in nature. Blows my mind.


Apart from the "**** Essendon" argument, there is genuinely no feasible explanation why clubs are bidding on Kako inside 10