List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

[Jen2310]

 

[Jen2310]

Which one is new Jen?

Ronald Fejo
He was not on our vfl list this year.

 

[JuniorB]

I want to put forward Luke Urquhart, his game against vic metro was really impressive. He played against a stacked midfield in Josh Smilie, Jagga Smith and Levi Ashcroft. He will be around our selections his kicking is pretty bad but can win the clearance and is a contested bull.

Luke Urquhart Draft Profile

Explosive East Fremantle midfielder Luke Urquhart is a dominant clearance winner who proved he can match it with the best in 2024.

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Scouting Notes: 2024 AFL U18s - Western Australia vs. Vic Metro

Vic Metro's midfield maestros shone in their side's 33-point win over Western Australia. They feature heavily in our Scouting Notes.

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You're not kidding about his kicking....

 

[sr36]

You're not kidding about his kicking....

Was awful wasn't it. a couple where he basically threw it up and hacked at it like a kid who'd never kicked a sherrin before. And kicking on the run he was close to falling over.

 

[Carlthetruth]

I think I like Rosenszweig

Why? It's not PC but fair chance his nickname at school would be Spaz.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

At that point of the draft you are getting say Keeler rather than Darcy 9.5 times out of 10.

That's why you need to draft 20 of them over a span of 10 years, so that you get the Nick Larkey or Jeremy McGovern one time.

The solution to the problem is persistence and patience, not to ignore the need completely and try to exclusively solve it through overpaying for free agents and pulling taking flyers on mature age players out of state leagues.

I'm not expecting many of them to pay off, but most of the kids Dekka drafts don't turn out good anyway. Might as well fail with talls.

 

[celestial]

It has been a decade since the famed draft class of de goey,moore, Maynard and cox in the rookie draft.
Hoping we strike gold with all our late picks.

 

[Couch Coach]

It has been a decade since the famed draft class of de goey,moore, Maynard and cox in the rookie draft.
Hoping we strike gold with all our late picks.

You're going to be dissapointed if you compare a draft with picks 5, 9, 30 & Rookie pick 60 to a draft with picks 52, 55 & 58.

I note in 2014 we also took Matthew Goodyear, Michael Manteit, Brenden Abbott & Tony Armstrong.

This shows there are always hits and misses as we could have taken Ed Langdon (Pick 54), Dan Butler (67), Billy Frampton (84), Jack Sinclair (R1), Jayden Short (R11), Adam Saad (R25), Jason Castagna (R29), Kane Lambert (R46), Etc.

 

[satanshoof101]

 

[Jen2310]

Floyd capper

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[Pie eyed]

There’s just no chance I’m gonna watch the draft this year, waiting 5 hours for picks in the 40/50s

That's what Bigfooty is for.....
TD will do all the watching.

 

[JuniorB]

Was awful wasn't it. a couple where he basically threw it up and hacked at it like a kid who'd never kicked a sherrin before. And kicking on the run he was close to falling over.

Kicking can be improved, but his looks beyond redemption.

 

[35Daicos]

Which one is new Jen?

Ronald Fejo
He was not on our vfl list this year.

It's strange how we've heard nothing about that!: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader...n/news-story/9a993f972fed90f3ed76f77625349571


He's from the NT, turns 23 next month, and has played for the likes of West Adelaide (SANFL), Essendon (VFL) and GWS (VFL) in recent times.

 

[celestial]

As much as hine deserves the criticism for his failure in identifying and selecting first round talent in recent drafts, the development team should also receive some blame.

Maybe the current framework to develop first and second round talent needs to be reworked.

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[Jafo]

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[greening22]

Was awful wasn't it. a couple where he basically threw it up and hacked at it like a kid who'd never kicked a sherrin before. And kicking on the run he was close to falling over.

Do not draft blokes who are fundamentally bad kicks. They will cost you in the short-term & medium-term & long-term with their turnovers. I actually did not know this about Urquhart & so I have gone off him. The AFL in 2025 will be about narrow margins. Good kicks, all things being being equal, will give you more opportunities in games & ultimately help you win more often than not. I think that is one of the key reasons for recruiting Dan Huston. OK.

 

[JuniorB]

Do not draft blokes who are fundamentally bad kicks. They will cost you in the short-term & medium-term & long-term with their turnovers. I actually did not know this about Urquhart & so I have gone off him. The AFL in 2025 will be about narrow margins. Good kicks, all things being being equal, will give you more opportunities in games & ultimately help you win more often than not. I think that is one of the key reasons for recruiting Dan Huston. OK.

We need to draft players that have good fundamental skills - if they can't kick and handball, forget it.
On the rookieme website it shows what the potential draftees are like at a range of attributes.
Ones like contested and strength can be rectified in the gym during preseasons, but disposal skills are harder to improve, as are speed and, to a certain extent, endurance.
It's no accident that players in the lower draft range are mostly lacking in one or more areas.
Our footy department needs to indentify draftees that have scope to improve in areas that are easier to work on.
For example Charlie Nicholls is listed as average in strength, contested, endurance and consistency - all traits that can be improved, and he has elite speed.

 

[sr36]

We need to draft players that have good fundamental skills - if they can't kick and handball, forget it.
On the rookieme website it shows what the potential draftees are like at a range of attributes.
Ones like contested and strength can be rectified in the gym during preseasons, but disposal skills are harder to improve, as are speed and, to a certain extent, endurance.
It's no accident that players in the lower draft range are mostly lacking in one or more areas.
Our footy department needs to indentify draftees that have scope to improve in areas that are easier to work on.
For example Charlie Nicholls is listed as average in strength, contested, endurance and consistency - all traits that can be improved, and he has elite speed.

I'd disagree with you on "contested" being an easy to fix area. Those athletic project talls rarely ever make it. That flanker with midfield scope doesn't usually graduate into the midfield - unless the issue is endurance rather than contest.

 

[satanshoof101]

Kevin Sheehan’s 2024 Telstra AFL Draft top prospects: Midfielders

AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan has profiled the top midfielders in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft pool

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[manicpie]

Kevin Sheehan’s 2024 Telstra AFL Draft top prospects: Midfielders

AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan has profiled the top midfielders in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft pool

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Isaiah Winder looks a much more complete footballer now. He's put on size and looks very good

 

[Cyclops]

Can we get Stumpf just so we can call him Donald?

 

[satanshoof101]

Isaiah Winder looks a much more complete footballer now. He's put on size and looks very good

- Zane Cochrane

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Zane Cochrane Draft Profile

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I remember Zane Cochrane played for our VFL team, can't remember how he played.

I wonder if Doug Kerr is in our sights at all with our last pick. I heard his kick wasn't too bad and he is a bit of a bull at 192cm.

 

[Jen2310]

- Zane Cochrane

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Zane Cochrane Draft Profile

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I remember Zane Cochrane played for our VFL team, can't remember how he played.

I wonder if Doug Kerr is in our sights at all with our last pick. I heard his kick wasn't too bad and he is a bit of a bull at 192cm.

The craft to the draft boys talked about him, and how his disposal and impact with ball in hand is much higher than most. Is dangerous around stoppages as he uses his size better than most, can burst out the front of stoppages, can get his hands free, tackles, can go forward (or even back) to take a mark.

 

[sr36]

The craft to the draft boys talked about him, and how his disposal and impact with ball in hand is much higher than most. Is dangerous around stoppages as he uses his size better than most, can burst out the front of stoppages, can get his hands free, tackles, can go forward (or even back) to take a mark.

The guy in blue really needs to get someone else to play him - I can't listen to him.

 

[swoop42]

As much as hine deserves the criticism for his failure in identifying and selecting first round talent in recent drafts, the development team should also receive some blame.

Maybe the current framework to develop first and second round talent needs to be reworked.

So over all the Hine and Co. bashing.

We won the flag just over 12 months ago, we lost a Preliminary final by 1pt a year before that.

We lost a GF by 5pts in 2018 and another Prelim by 4pts in 2019.

Our 2010 Premiership winning side was the youngest on average in 32 years (slightly younger than the famed baby Bombers) and it's not Hines fault the fallout from the coaching handover and a reliance on a rookie coach effectively cost us greater opportunity for more silverware in the proceeding years.

I'm grateful that Swan at least got one flag and Pendlebury, Sidebottom lasted long enough to land a second but that midfield group of Swan, Pendlebury, Sidebottom, Beams and Thomas should have been capable of more.