List Mgmt. 2024 National Draft - November 20-21

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He or Polkinghorn would play the role that JDG initially had

If they're significantly better than any KPP, and available, then take one
KPP after that
I'd say there would be multiple KPP rated higher that is a chance to be available ((Nicholls, West, Stumpf) than Polkinghorne, who is more viewed very late /rookie.
 
Rubbish, every club had the opportunity to bid on him far earlier, of course he should be considered a late pick, just as Josh should be for us.
With late picks, clubs often don't bother bidding because it doesn't really make the team "pay up" - They're going to be able to match any bid easily with irrelevant picks anyway, so they sometimes slide later than they really would if they weren't a F/S or Academy pick,

It's too complicated a situation and not a real test of his draft stock, so to use him as an example of the type of player one could expect to get in the 50s is a little misleading.
 
With late picks, clubs often don't bother bidding because it doesn't really make the team "pay up" - They're going to be able to match any bid easily with irrelevant picks anyway, so they sometimes slide later than they really would if they weren't a F/S or Academy pick,

It's too complicated a situation and not a real test of his draft stock, so to use him as an example of the type of player one could expect to get in the 50s is a little misleading.
Dear was very much a late pick or rookie option regardless of the father son classification
 

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With late picks, clubs often don't bother bidding because it doesn't really make the team "pay up" - They're going to be able to match any bid easily with irrelevant picks anyway, so they sometimes slide later than they really would if they weren't a F/S or Academy pick,

It's too complicated a situation and not a real test of his draft stock, so to use him as an example of the type of player one could expect to get in the 50s is a little misleading.
Once again this is absolute nonsense. It’s not about making other teams pay up, if a club makes a bid it’s because they rate the player. There have been plenty of other players who have had later picks bid on them, Callum Brown and Will Kelly for us are both notable post-30 picks that had bids made on them despite the fact we could use nothing picks by that point to get them. Carlton are unlikely to get away without at least one of the Camporeale twins being bid on this year, and probably will receive bids for both despite being rated as later picks.

All that aside, pretty much all the phantoms and power rankings had Dear as a late pick anyway, it’s not like he was rated anywhere higher than he actually went. Acting like he was rated higher than he actually went is fairy tale stuff when all the evidence points to the opposite.
 
With late picks, clubs often don't bother bidding because it doesn't really make the team "pay up" - They're going to be able to match any bid easily with irrelevant picks anyway, so they sometimes slide later than they really would if they weren't a F/S or Academy pick,

It's too complicated a situation and not a real test of his draft stock, so to use him as an example of the type of player one could expect to get in the 50s is a little misleading.
Dear was a really late developer - might not have even been drafted last year if he wasn't a Father Son being tracked closely by Hawks.
 
You know us, the forward will become a defender and the defender will become a forward

KP Forward to become a KP Defender possibility is quite high at pies, but it's much rarer to see the opposite.

Big Pebbles coming over from swans as a CHB in development (played gwd as a junior)

Mihocek more recently is really one out of the box there.

Howe I guess is another but whilst he can play tall is best suited as the 3rd in.
 

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KP Forward to become a KP Defender possibility is quite high at pies, but it's much rarer to see the opposite.

Big Pebbles coming over from swans as a CHB in development (played gwd as a junior)

Mihocek more recently is really one out of the box there.

Howe I guess is another but whilst he can play tall is best suited as the 3rd in.
All our blokes played majority at the opposite end as 18 year olds - Howe, Moore, Murphy, Mihocek, McStay, Frampton - even Dean was a forward in his initial draft year.
 


Would be very surprised if collingwood was one of the 16 clubs.
I'm sure we interviewed them early on when we had a 2nd round pick lol Even they were who we were keen on at the start of he year, but prob not in recent weeks
 
I'm not sure how hawthorn did it but early in 2022 Dear was rated as a late first round pick. His talent was there for all to see. **** I hate hawthorn
Can you post the article that suggested Dear was considered a first found pick in 2022. I'm guessing it doesn't exist even with his talent there for all to see.
 

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