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And there's no reason why Hine hasn't identified talented U18 talls, if that's what we are specifically after ..I'd be backing in Hine well ahead of Leppitsch when it comes to U18 talent identification.
Leppitsch doesn't have a history in recruitment and is in his first year as our full time list manager.
Based upon the number of picks Twoomey believes each club will take:Love to know what the current list spots available for all clubs after last night's draft. Anyone know?
Adelaide: 58, 74 |
Brisbane: 46, 47, 49, 56, 59, 66, 69, 95, 99 |
Carlton: 40, 55, 63, 64, 67 |
Collingwood: 45, 48, 53, 61, 78 |
Essendon: 37, 39, 43, 60, 91, 97 |
Fremantle: 34, 62, 77, 85 |
Geelong: 42, 50, 70, 80 |
Gold Coast: 57, 90, 96 |
Greater Western Sydney: 36, 93, 98 |
Hawthorn: 35, 65, 71 |
Melbourne: 75 |
North Melbourne: 54, 72, 82 |
Port Adelaide: 33, 38, 94 |
Richmond: 28, 89 |
St Kilda: 32, 51, 76, 84 |
Sydney: 41, 52, 81, 87 |
West Coast: 30, 44, 68, 73, 83, 88 |
Western Bulldogs: 29, 31, 79, 86, 92 |
If Hine tells Leppa that none of the talls are worth drafting and only small, slow midfielders are any good, Leppa doesn't really have enough standing in U/18 talent identification to go against that.Maybe I just see Leppa having more of an influence on our selections than others do..
Needs more Barrat (my favourite) and WestI call proper kpp 194+.
Crossing everything for:
One of Sims, Gerryn, Nicholls
One of OFarell, Mraz, Dennis
Luke Kennedy
Bring on our draft day!
Dustin fletcher and the Watson’s ?Can't wait for naicos to run alongside pendle's son in 12 years time.
Wonder if that will make naicos the first player to play alongside both a father his son .
Great players slip through until rookie recruitment and early picks are busts all of the time in the NFL, which channels incredible resources into the caper. No reason it can’t happen in this draft for the Pies, he says hopefullyLachie Neale was ALSO pick #58, like Swanny, in 2011. Nick Larkey went #73 in 2016. There's still regular examples where top talents slip through.
It doesn't mean it's a guarantee, but it wasn't then either. But there's no evidence to suggest that drafting has gotten so airtight that no high end talents could slip through the cracks to a later pick.
so someone please enlighten me on the appeal of Luke KennedyI call proper kpp 194+.
Crossing everything for:
One of Sims, Gerryn, Nicholls
One of OFarell, Mraz, Dennis
Luke Kennedy
Bring on our draft day!
It's not as hail Mary as you think. 1 in 3 picks in this range play 100 games. And this draft is really highly rated for its depth. 2 decent players is pretty likely.Yes there are hits on occassion but few and far between and requires just as much luck as anything.
The Swan, S.Mitchell et el draft was a bloody long time ago now.
My expectations will be tempered until they show something.
Hopefully we can find another Beau McCreery or even less likely next Swan but my expectations are it's a lucky windfall rather then expected.
Thanks. Now I'm just trying to guess which of those clubs with picks before us would be targetting a tallBased upon the number of picks Twoomey believes each club will take:
2024 Telstra AFL Draft Combine List
Adelaide: 58, 74 Brisbane: 46, 47, 49, 56, 59, 66, 69, 95, 99 Carlton: 40, 55, 63, 64, 67 Collingwood: 45, 48, 53, 61, 78 Essendon: 37, 39, 43, 60, 91, 97 Fremantle: 34, 62, 77, 85 Geelong: 42, 50, 70, 80 Gold Coast: 57, 90, 96 Greater Western Sydney: 36, 93, 98 Hawthorn: 35, 65, 71 Melbourne: 75 North Melbourne: 54, 72, 82 Port Adelaide: 33, 38, 94 Richmond: 28, 89 St Kilda: 32, 51, 76, 84 Sydney: 41, 52, 81, 87 West Coast: 30, 44, 68, 73, 83, 88 Western Bulldogs: 29, 31, 79, 86, 92
RED picks unlikely to be taken.
Sims and Nicholls look fairly strong? Massive Agree on Dennis and MrazI hope we take three key position players just so we can actually talk about some other types of players next year. The Lemmy, Keeler, Scully draft discussion broke me.
Sims looks ideal for us but I'm not sure he's making it that far. Just want good players over type, we have a lot of positions retiring soon. But if it's a key I like the strong physical players so Mraz, Gerreyn, West and Dennis are the ones I'm hanging out for.
Agree. My thought has been 2 talls and Kennedy all along.I reckon we'll take 2 talls and Kennedy. If both west and polkinghorne are still there, the temptation will be too strong. I also think we might take 4 if a player we want is still there. AJ might be in trouble
100% a key fwd a key back and Kennedy is what I've wanted for agesAgree. My thought has been 2 talls and Kennedy all along.
Kennedy 181cm mid that Dekka will love
That outcome I will be very very happy with.
Sims and Nicholls look fairly strong? Massive Agree on Dennis and Mraz
What don't you like about Nicholls?Yeah Sims as well, he would be my most preferred. Nicholls not so much.
Tomlinson I hopeIf we take 3 today and one of aj or markov get taken up, reckon we will target tomlinson or hayes ?
Or we leave that spot open for a ssp or msd pick?
For mine the best way to look at this is talent and all the ingredients that go a player becoming an AFL commodity come from understanding its a pyramid. The kids at the top stand out more clearly. No 1 pick is the pick that has the biggest separation by attributes from the next pick, no 2, than any other 2 successive picks.Yes there are hits on occassion but few and far between and requires just as much luck as anything.
The Swan, S.Mitchell et el draft was a bloody long time ago now.
My expectations will be tempered until they show something.
Hopefully we can find another Beau McCreery or even less likely next Swan but my expectations are it's a lucky windfall rather then expected.
I'd be backing in Hine well ahead of Leppitsch when it comes to U18 talent identification.
Leppitsch doesn't have a history in recruitment and is in his first year as our full time list manager.
Yes I understand what Hine's role is.If Hine tells Leppa that none of the talls are worth drafting and only small, slow midfielders are any good, Leppa doesn't really have enough standing in U/18 talent identification to go against that.
Leppitsch can set a priority, but ultimately Hine is going to have to believe that a player is not completely useless to draft him.
What don't you like about Nicholls?
So like Schache and Luckicous?Seems to lack the physical approach to the contest I like to see from the bigger guys. Mind you, I've watched like two YouTube clips of him so it's a really limited view.
I like Kennedy too but not sure why the obsession that we get him - we have interviewed 10 plus others who play a similar roleI call proper kpp 194+.
Crossing everything for:
One of Sims, Gerryn, Nicholls
One of OFarell, Mraz, Dennis
Luke Kennedy
Bring on our draft day!