Preview 2024 National Draft Preview Thread Part Deux - Draft Picks: 2 (R1), 62 (R4), 76 (R5), 86 (R6)

[King Hansen]

Bigfooty: We have too many mids and need to draft a KPP with our next first rounder for better list balance.

Also Bigfooty: We should draft the best mid with pick 2.

 

[shinboner magic]

Crows should be told we want a pick in this years draft

 

[Passmore]

Brady will be the one negotiating pick swaps on draft night

Thursfield will be the one deciding who we want to draft.

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

 

[hilly]

If our recruiters are worried about Big Footy feedback, that would be heads on stakes time.

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

Ladder position over the last five years speaks for itself.

 

[Passmore]

Ladder position over the last five years speaks for itself.

Thursfield has been head of recruiting for 2 years.

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

 

[JGreezy]

Nothing like them. He can (at times) intercept mark like them. But his marking is due to raw athleticism and power rather than elite footy positioning, IQ and defensive craft. Doesn’t have the skills of either of those two.

Fair enough, they were unusual comparisons to see because those two guys have strengths that rarely show themselves at 18 years old.

Who is a decent comparison, then? Balta? He's a 194cm, athletic swingman.

 

[hilly]

Thursfield has been head of recruiting for 2 years.

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

He has and I have some faith in him. He can start by nailing a non top 25 pick.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Since many here keep bangin on about him, ZH piece on Gerreyn.

What pick could get it done?

AFL Draft Profile: Kayle Gerreyn

A dominant key position talent who boasts powerful traits and strengths.

www.zerohanger.com

When we don't even know all the players outside of the first round on where they will go its quite hard to predict Kayle's pick number, then throw in other draft people that might suggesting the 40s or 50s and others that say in the 30s then you can clearly see the problem. First of all there would be the question of "how bad do you want him"? While at the moment its deadly quiet about who likes who, the clubs will put out feelers to get their intel on where certain players may go and what club is very interested in what player.

My guess is early in the second round, if a club is unsure if he'll last till their next pick or that the intel says that a couple of clubs are very interested in him then if you value him that highly you get him, in this game of chess the rule of thumb is not to pay overs, meaning if you have a pick and you have the chance to get your player, then try and trade down a little and get a bonus pick while still being able to get your player.

Now there are exceptions of course, like if three or four teams don't offer you the picks that you think is a fair trade, even in a strong draft some teams just wont do it, then you have to weigh up that important question, Do I get him, with my pick even though he's projected to go several spots later and no club will do a deal that satisfies everyone or do I JUST SELECT ONE OF THE TOP TALENTS STILL ON THE BOARD because they are rated better players?

My philosophy is "always back yourself in", no matter what, I feel that Brady and Will are not going to do the latter, whoever is on our whiteboard at number one, if all else fails then get him, whoever it is if we think that our first pick is going to be special, call his name out and make him a Kangaroo! Sorry for the extended answer to a simple question, as you can see, the second half of my post was referencing our dilemma with our first pick, as long as we get our man and I believe we will then the objective will be obtained.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Yeah but 2 things play into that.

1. However this Tauru stuff got leaked it’s hurt your ability to hold out for better assets as now Melbourne are boxing you in and Carlton have no interest in moving. So it’s P2 or Adelaide - The player himself is now apparently a top 5 lock either way

2. The talent is great in this draft. But there isn’t the elite talent of a Reid or Naicos and thus no one wants to sell the farm to get up and are happy to stay put.


And yes I get you can just take a mid. But it’s been weeks of this Tauru crap. It’s clear that he is who you want

Maybe, maybe not. Alix may well be on our list say at 2 on our whiteboard and we may want to get him but our big surprise at our first pick might not be a player that the media or supporters have a clue to who it is until draft night.

 

[marklovesbeer]

split our #2 but it would need to be 2 picks, with 1 being #6 our under with the other inside just outside..

 

[The Talent Scout]

I've seen Tauru compared to Sicily and Tom Stewart. Are these comparisons fair? I reckon those players are hard to predict at 18 years old because so much of it is mentality.

You are quite correct. We compare players all the time in past era's and even in this era, but for youngsters at 18 that is all we can do to get a gauge on their potential, by watching them, how does he play when his team is losing, does he throw in the towel?

Does he play by the coaches game plan or is he a rebel? Many more questions but the thing is the recruiter has to back himself in. Alix to me plays very much like James Sicily but his marking and the way he goes about it is very much Nick Riewoldt and I mean to a tee.

Its quite uncanny to watch him mark or attempt to mark because in all the years since Nick retired, no one has even came close to the way he went about it, until now. So you have the marking of Nick Riewoldt and the positioning and style of play of James Sicily, what do you think?

As for your first sentence, whose to say, is Sam Lalor the next "Dusty", is Harvey Langford the next "Bont", since its all we have to go on, I think its more than fair, he has something, there is no doubt about it, a long way to go but what if he was to be another "Ross Glendinning" would people worry about a couple of picks here and there compared to if he ended up at say Richmond or Melbourne or St Kilda, and was a star, just imagine the melts on this board, it would be legendary.

 

[shiraz]

I may be on my own in this, but i see genuine crumbing and pressure small forwards as a bigger need for us than developing talls. This isn't the draft to address it - there's no one i'd move positions to try to take - but i'd rather move resources to next year rather than trade into this year. I like the idea of 2 to StK for 7 and F1 because it moves assets into next year where we could potentially pick up an elite crumber. With 7, early bid on Kako, and assuming that fails live trade the 7 for a few picks inside 25 - not sure who or how viable this is. Those two picks could end up as talls like Trainor, Sims, or Faull. I'd rather any two of those than just Tauru @ 2, and that's without even considering Saints F1, which could be really handy for manuvering during the trade and/or draft period next year, especially if we happen to show a bit this year.

 

[perplexed]

I may be on my own in this, but i see genuine crumbing and pressure small forwards as a bigger need for us than developing talls. This isn't the draft to address it - there's no one i'd move positions to try to take - but i'd rather move resources to next year rather than trade into this year. I like the idea of 2 to StK for 7 and F1 because it moves assets into next year where we could potentially pick up an elite crumber. With 7, early bid on Kako, and assuming that fails live trade the 7 for a few picks inside 25 - not sure who or how viable this is. Those two picks could end up as talls like Trainor, Sims, or Faull. I'd rather any two of those than just Tauru @ 2, and that's without even considering Saints F1, which could be really handy for manuvering during the trade and/or draft period next year, especially if we happen to show a bit this year.

That sounds far more competent than what it looks like we are doing.

Though I think there are a couple of small forwards we could go after, especially Hannaford.

 

[shinboner magic]

That sounds far more competent than what it looks like we are doing.

Though I think there are a couple of small forwards we could go after, especially Hannaford.

Yes get this guy - he’ll be elite wherever he plays

I really doubt we use a pick in a small forward as have brought in konstanty , Payne and likely river but we should as we are still light on In that department

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Thursfield has been head of recruiting for 2 years.

Sent from my SM-A908B using Tapatalk

He joined after the 2022 draft though. Brady was doing both jobs during the draft with help from Clayton.

 

[koshari]

IF Richmond dont pick Lalor...

We pick Lalor at 2. Trade F1 to GWS for 16 and 21. Xavier Lindsay and James Barrat could be options there.

Be bold. We still need a few quality mids.

Lalor, got me on my knees.

 

[koshari]

Yes get this guy - he’ll be elite wherever he plays

I really doubt we use a pick in a small forward as have brought in konstanty , Payne and likely river but we should as we are still light on In that department

And bobby dazzler. Thats 4 potentials

 

[shinboner magic]

And bobby dazzler. Thats 4 potentials

Some clubs are running with 4 in their sides and we haven’t even had that many small forwards on our list
Hannaford looks a high end player that can play multiple positions

 

[perplexed]

Yes get this guy - he’ll be elite wherever he plays

I really doubt we use a pick in a small forward as have brought in konstanty , Payne and likely river but we should as we are still light on In that department

Those guys are all cut price long shots. They shouldn't stop us investing in someone more likely to become a player.

 

[JGreezy]

From what I'm reading, Tauru in the top 4 would either be one of the dumbest picks ever if it fails, or genius if it works. Because it seems like 75% of clubs/draft watchers rate him at like pick 15.

 

[stavro#4]

From what I'm reading, Tauru in the top 4 would either be one of the dumbest picks ever if it fails, or genius if it works. Because it seems like 75% of clubs/draft watchers rate him at like pick 15.

North at 2/4

Melbourne at 5+9 (with herald sun running with the view they will take him at 5 if you don’t)
Richmond at 6
St Kilda at 7+ 8

All rate him highly.

He has an insane athletic profile for a tall. He was having significant impact on games at the back end of the year WHILST also playing in pain as he had an undiagnosed back stress fracture.

And as a talent he is probably the rawest in the top 20.

Yes there is an element of swinging for the fences taking him in the top 5. But whoever takes him is the club taking the kid with the biggest potential in this draft class.

His full game clips have all been posted on big footy if you have a spare 30 minutes. He puts together a fair end to the season as he starts to work out what he is capable of.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Jonty Faull = The Faull Guy

Lee Majors likes this!

 

[DesertRoo]

North at 2/4

Melbourne at 5+9 (with herald sun running with the view they will take him at 5 if you don’t)
Richmond at 6
St Kilda at 7+ 8

All rate him highly.

He has an insane athletic profile for a tall. He was having significant impact on games at the back end of the year WHILST also playing in pain as he had an undiagnosed back stress fracture.

And as a talent he is probably the rawest in the top 20.


Yes there is an element of swinging for the fences taking him in the top 5. But whoever takes him is the club taking the kid with the biggest potential in this draft class.

His full game clips have all been posted on big footy if you have a spare 30 minutes. He puts together a fair end to the season as he starts to work out what he is capable of.

he ain’t going top 5, it’ll be top rated mids all go high, if you want, one trade up accordingly.

Honestly though this the year for the saints to do it, won’t get the opportunity over the next few years

 

[travelli]

From what I'm reading, Tauru in the top 4 would either be one of the dumbest picks ever if it fails, or genius if it works. Because it seems like 75% of clubs/draft watchers rate him at like pick 15.

Just take jagga and everyone have a nap.

No risk. The talls will come.

 

[koshari]

Lee Majors likes this!

Heather thomas says hi