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I am firming for Lawlor {do we offer 2 and maybe a future 2nd for 1 and another swap of future 4ths\}?
Somebody check the top paddock gate.......here they come Pravda Roo

Just in case they don't mention it, Richmond have a lot of first round picks, they tend to keep that stuff to themselves.

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Somebody check the top paddock gate.......here they come Pravda Roo

Just in case they don't mention it, Richmond have a lot of first round picks, they tend to keep that stuff to themselves.

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Yeh indeed.

So do we the Harley Reid play but do it in the draft without a Harley Reid.
 

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FWIW. Has Rich taking Smith at 1, FOS at 3.

Pick 2. (North Melbourne) – Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country – MID/FWD, 188cm

If the Kangaroos are picking the next best talent, Lalor is a Dustin Martin prototype, packaged with explosiveness and power in the front half that can swing games and create big moments.
Lalor’s question marks surround his injury troubles in the past two years which would deter Richmond from taking him at 1, however, his X-Factor propels him above most others on the ground with his scoreboard impact and cleanliness around the stoppage.

EDIT

Pick 55. (North Melbourne) – Rhys Unwin
GWV Rebels/Vic Country – FWD/MID, 179cm
Unwin produces some of the best speed for a smaller forward, crafty with his ball use, looking to get involved further up the ground and impact with his swift decision-making and vision to progress the footy inside 50, still with a lot of upside.
 

FWIW. Has Rich taking Smith at 1, FOS at 3.

Pick 2. (North Melbourne) – Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country – MID/FWD, 188cm

If the Kangaroos are picking the next best talent, Lalor is a Dustin Martin prototype, packaged with explosiveness and power in the front half that can swing games and create big moments.
Lalor’s question marks surround his injury troubles in the past two years which would deter Richmond from taking him at 1, however, his X-Factor propels him above most others on the ground with his scoreboard impact and cleanliness around the stoppage.
solid

Lalor or FOS can't go wrong with either for us

no way kayle Gerryn goes pick 60
 
I'd probably agree Smillie over Langford, but wouldn't be mad with either of them if we slide down the order.
Smillie has more upside, but his lack of competitiveness in the contest will perhaps not tick the Shinboner values boxes of being driven/competitors/reslient. I'd love to know what Viney and Clarko think of him, not sure they'd like that.
Smillie could potentially be the best player in the draft from an upside point of view or he could be a bust.

Langford is more of a competitor, tougher in the contest, stronger workrate/tank, reslience and drive to be great, but lacks speed and won't have the time and space at AFL level. But is that Jordan Lewis mould perhaps.

I think I'd be taking FOS (athleticism/skill/competitiveness/defensive pressure) as he ticks a lot of boxes and has versatility to play wing/hbf/small forward roles for us. But we might not get a look at him if Tigers pick him.

Draper I like as well, less versatile perhaps, burst of speed, competitive, defensive pressure, leader.
But the SA factor has me a little gun shy after JHF. Not sure his skills are as good as FOS or Smith though.

Smith, just a very high level decision maker. Solid 20m (3.09s) and 2km was 6:26. Slight frame is a concern.

Lalor could be anything. Bit of Rayner and Dane Swan about him. Powerful player, but injuries and tank a concern.

I don't honestly know anymore, think I'll just ride the wave. They all have some positives and negatives.
Ha ha ha, yes chubs, this draft will do it to you, that's for sure!
 

FWIW. Has Rich taking Smith at 1, FOS at 3.

Pick 2. (North Melbourne) – Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country – MID/FWD, 188cm

If the Kangaroos are picking the next best talent, Lalor is a Dustin Martin prototype, packaged with explosiveness and power in the front half that can swing games and create big moments.
Lalor’s question marks surround his injury troubles in the past two years which would deter Richmond from taking him at 1, however, his X-Factor propels him above most others on the ground with his scoreboard impact and cleanliness around the stoppage.

EDIT

Pick 55. (North Melbourne) – Rhys Unwin
GWV Rebels/Vic Country – FWD/MID, 179cm
Unwin produces some of the best speed for a smaller forward, crafty with his ball use, looking to get involved further up the ground and impact with his swift decision-making and vision to progress the footy inside 50, still with a lot of upside.
Posted on the main board, but they've got Gerryn going at 60.....Boom!! Avail at 55 then!!
 
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These phantom drafts really are all over the shop, the top 10 is reasonably consistent but the order is far from it. Then you have inconsistencies like SEN have the Western Bulldogs taking Ollie Hannaford at 35 compared to 20 with ESPN. It's going to be fascinating to see it play out.

DraftSEN Phantom NOV 24ESPN Phantom NOV 24Zero Hanger Phantom OCT 24
1Richmond – Jagga SmithRichmond – Sam LalorRichmond – Finn O'Sullivan
2North Melbourne – Sam LalorNorth Melbourne – Alix TauruBrisbane (bid) – Levi Ashcroft
3Carlton – Finn O'SullivanBrisbane (bid) – Levi AshcroftNorth Melbourne – Sam Lalor
4Brisbane (bid) – Levi AshcroftCarlton – Finn O'SullivanCarlton – Jagga Smith
5Adelaide – Sid DraperAdelaide – Sid DraperAdelaide – Sid Draper
6Melbourne – Josh SmillieMelbourne – Harvey LangfordMelbourne – Harvey Langford
7Richmond – Harvey LangfordRichmond – Josh SmillieRichmond – Murphy Reid
8St Kilda – Bo AllanSt Kilda – Jagga SmithSt Kilda – Josh Smillie
9St Kilda – Harry ArmstrongGold Coast (bid) – Leo LombardSt Kilda – Harry Armstrong
10Gold Coast (bid) – Leo LombardSt Kilda – Tobie TravagliaEssendon (bid) – Isaac Kako
11Melbourne – Jobe ShanahanMelbourne – Murphy ReidMelbourne – Luke Trainor
12Richmond – Alix TauruRichmond – Harry ArmstrongRichmond – Tobie Travaglia
13Richmond – Tobie TravagliaRichmond – Bo AllanRichmond – Alix Tauru
14West Coast – Xavier LindsayWest Coast – Xavier LindsayGold Coast (bid) – Leo Lombard
15Port Adelaide – Murphy ReidEssendon (bid) – Isaac KakoWest Coast – Bo Allan
16Fremantle – Joe BerryPort Adelaide – Jack WhitlockPort Adelaide – Cooper Hynes
17Essendon (bid) – Isaac KakoFremantle – Joe BerryFremantle – Taj Hotton
18GWS – Luke TrainorGWS – Taj HottonGWS – Xavier Lindsay
19GWS – Taj HottonGWS – Jobe ShanahanGWS – Jobe Shanahan
20Western Bulldogs – Jesse DattollWestern Bulldogs – Ollie HanfordWestern Bulldogs – Alex Dodson
21Richmond – Christian MoraesRichmond – Luke TrainorRichmond – Joe Berry
22Sydney – Matt WhitlockBrisbane (bid) – Sam Marshall Brisbane (bid) – Sam Marshall
23Richmond – Jack WhitlockSydney – Matt WhitlockSydney – Kayle Gerreyn
24GWS – Tom GrossRichmond – Cooper HynesRichmond – Jonty Faull
25Sydney – Cooper HynesGWS – Hamish DavisGWS – Jack Whitlock
26Richmond – Jonty FaullSydney – Jesse DattollSydney – Jesse Datoll
27Richmond – Alex DodsonRichmond – Alex DodsonRichmond – James Barat
28Western Bulldogs – Harrison OliverRichmond – James Barrat
29West Coast – Harry O’FarrellWestern Bulldogs – Tom Gross
30Brisbane (bid) – Sam Marshall West Coast – Jack Ough
31Port Adelaide – Jasper AlgerPort Adelaide – Harrison Oliver
32Fremantle – Josh DolanFremantle – Jonty Fault
33St Kilda – Adrian ColeSt Kilda – Jasper Alger
34Hawthorn – James BarratHawthorn – Tom Sims
35Western Bulldogs – Ollie HanfordWestern Bulldogs – Christian Moraes
36Port Adelaide – Floyd BurmeisterPort Adelaide – Noah Mraz
37GWS – Angus ClarkGWS – Angus Clark
38Carlton – Noah MrazCarlton – Harry O’Farrell
 

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Ha ha ha, yes chubs, this draft will do it to you, that's for sure!
Yeah I've gone back and forth on all of them. I like them all honestly, so think I'll just sit back and see what we do.
It's not really like the Sheez year when I was set on Sheez as I thought he had some rare things or even last year I was pretty convinced about Colby and Zane. It's much tougher this year to split them.
I'd also love Tauru, Shanahan, Armstrong, Berry, Lindsay, Hannaford or GMan but we can't get them all unfortunately.
We'll see what happens. I'll try and narrow it down before Monday lol.
 
Exciting times. Wish the draft was this week
Yep exciting times.
Excited Cbs GIF by Wolf Entertainment
 

FWIW. Has Rich taking Smith at 1, FOS at 3.

Pick 2. (North Melbourne) – Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country – MID/FWD, 188cm

If the Kangaroos are picking the next best talent, Lalor is a Dustin Martin prototype, packaged with explosiveness and power in the front half that can swing games and create big moments.
Lalor’s question marks surround his injury troubles in the past two years which would deter Richmond from taking him at 1, however, his X-Factor propels him above most others on the ground with his scoreboard impact and cleanliness around the stoppage.

EDIT

Pick 55. (North Melbourne) – Rhys Unwin
GWV Rebels/Vic Country – FWD/MID, 179cm
Unwin produces some of the best speed for a smaller forward, crafty with his ball use, looking to get involved further up the ground and impact with his swift decision-making and vision to progress the footy inside 50, still with a lot of upside.
If we come away from this draft with just two more mids/forwards I’ll be disappointed and have no idea what in the f*** we are doing with our list build.
 

FWIW. Has Rich taking Smith at 1, FOS at 3.

Pick 2. (North Melbourne) – Sam Lalor
GWV Rebels/Vic Country – MID/FWD, 188cm

If the Kangaroos are picking the next best talent, Lalor is a Dustin Martin prototype, packaged with explosiveness and power in the front half that can swing games and create big moments.
Lalor’s question marks surround his injury troubles in the past two years which would deter Richmond from taking him at 1, however, his X-Factor propels him above most others on the ground with his scoreboard impact and cleanliness around the stoppage.

EDIT

Pick 55. (North Melbourne) – Rhys Unwin
GWV Rebels/Vic Country – FWD/MID, 179cm
Unwin produces some of the best speed for a smaller forward, crafty with his ball use, looking to get involved further up the ground and impact with his swift decision-making and vision to progress the footy inside 50, still with a lot of upside.
Hmmm we’ve struggled for wins the last few years and now we’re drafting Unwin
 
These phantom drafts really are all over the shop, the top 10 is reasonably consistent but the order is far from it. Then you have inconsistencies like SEN have the Western Bulldogs taking Ollie Hannaford at 35 compared to 20 with ESPN. It's going to be fascinating to see it play out.

DraftSEN Phantom NOV 24ESPN Phantom NOV 24Zero Hanger Phantom OCT 24
1Richmond – Jagga SmithRichmond – Sam LalorRichmond – Finn O'Sullivan
2North Melbourne – Sam LalorNorth Melbourne – Alix TauruBrisbane (bid) – Levi Ashcroft
3Carlton – Finn O'SullivanBrisbane (bid) – Levi AshcroftNorth Melbourne – Sam Lalor
4Brisbane (bid) – Levi AshcroftCarlton – Finn O'SullivanCarlton – Jagga Smith
5Adelaide – Sid DraperAdelaide – Sid DraperAdelaide – Sid Draper
6Melbourne – Josh SmillieMelbourne – Harvey LangfordMelbourne – Harvey Langford
7Richmond – Harvey LangfordRichmond – Josh SmillieRichmond – Murphy Reid
8St Kilda – Bo AllanSt Kilda – Jagga SmithSt Kilda – Josh Smillie
9St Kilda – Harry ArmstrongGold Coast (bid) – Leo LombardSt Kilda – Harry Armstrong
10Gold Coast (bid) – Leo LombardSt Kilda – Tobie TravagliaEssendon (bid) – Isaac Kako
11Melbourne – Jobe ShanahanMelbourne – Murphy ReidMelbourne – Luke Trainor
12Richmond – Alix TauruRichmond – Harry ArmstrongRichmond – Tobie Travaglia
13Richmond – Tobie TravagliaRichmond – Bo AllanRichmond – Alix Tauru
14West Coast – Xavier LindsayWest Coast – Xavier LindsayGold Coast (bid) – Leo Lombard
15Port Adelaide – Murphy ReidEssendon (bid) – Isaac KakoWest Coast – Bo Allan
16Fremantle – Joe BerryPort Adelaide – Jack WhitlockPort Adelaide – Cooper Hynes
17Essendon (bid) – Isaac KakoFremantle – Joe BerryFremantle – Taj Hotton
18GWS – Luke TrainorGWS – Taj HottonGWS – Xavier Lindsay
19GWS – Taj HottonGWS – Jobe ShanahanGWS – Jobe Shanahan
20Western Bulldogs – Jesse DattollWestern Bulldogs – Ollie HanfordWestern Bulldogs – Alex Dodson
21Richmond – Christian MoraesRichmond – Luke TrainorRichmond – Joe Berry
22Sydney – Matt WhitlockBrisbane (bid) – Sam Marshall Brisbane (bid) – Sam Marshall
23Richmond – Jack WhitlockSydney – Matt WhitlockSydney – Kayle Gerreyn
24GWS – Tom GrossRichmond – Cooper HynesRichmond – Jonty Faull
25Sydney – Cooper HynesGWS – Hamish DavisGWS – Jack Whitlock
26Richmond – Jonty FaullSydney – Jesse DattollSydney – Jesse Datoll
27Richmond – Alex DodsonRichmond – Alex DodsonRichmond – James Barat
28Western Bulldogs – Harrison OliverRichmond – James Barrat
29West Coast – Harry O’FarrellWestern Bulldogs – Tom Gross
30Brisbane (bid) – Sam Marshall West Coast – Jack Ough
31Port Adelaide – Jasper AlgerPort Adelaide – Harrison Oliver
32Fremantle – Josh DolanFremantle – Jonty Fault
33St Kilda – Adrian ColeSt Kilda – Jasper Alger
34Hawthorn – James BarratHawthorn – Tom Sims
35Western Bulldogs – Ollie HanfordWestern Bulldogs – Christian Moraes
36Port Adelaide – Floyd BurmeisterPort Adelaide – Noah Mraz
37GWS – Angus ClarkGWS – Angus Clark
38Carlton – Noah MrazCarlton – Harry O’Farrell
Ha, so if we don't take Tauru at pick 2 then he slips to pick 12 or 13...

Take the BPP at pick 2 and, if you love Tauru that much, trade the F1 in to Richmond or St Kilda and draft him around pick 10-13.

The Saints need our F1 to trade back to us for LDU next year - I kid, LDU 4 life.
 
Ha, so if we don't take Tauru at pick 2 then he slips to pick 12 or 13...

Take the BPP at pick 2 and, if you love Tauru that much, trade the F1 in to Richmond or St Kilda and draft him around pick 10-13.

The Saints need our F1 to trade back to us for LDU next year - I kid, LDU 4 life.
Actually don’t mind this plan with the F1. But what is BPP?
 
Are they better than Sharp or Ludo whatever? Not a snowflakes, so no. I hope we don't as that would be very silly bordering on stupidity.

We could quadruple our 2024 wins and likely still get one of them, for some context.
Yeah fair enough. Will depend who it is though. For some strange reason I’m confident we know what we are doing. Brady not bad at this stuff with swaps etc.
Sharp will be pick 1. Hopefully we ain’t got that
 
If we come away from this draft with just two more mids/forwards I’ll be disappointed and have no idea what in the f*** we are doing with our list build.
They can only pick with what picks we currently have. I'm sure we've got multiple options that might play out.
We'll get something in that 10-40 range from either splitting 2 and/or moving our F1 or F2 to take a key forward.
First thing of interest will be when we're on the clock with pick 2, what we do then will be interesting to say the least.
Then secondly when the bid comes for Kako, which teams get 28 and/or 31 off Bombres.
 
I reckon it might be a genius wag the dog play from Carlton here.
If Adel are really into Draper, they'll have to trade up to 2, leaving FOS for Carl at 3.

I think Carlton legitimately would be into Draper. Their midfield is incredibly one paced and are dying out for a Draper type.

If FOS is gone, I think they take Draper.


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