Preview 2024 National Draft Preview Thread Part Deux

[DunderHead]

I think Mac Andrew is considered to be the future AFL KP profile. Tauru appears to be in a similar mould.

 

[stavro#4]

he ain’t going top 5, it’ll be top rated mids all go high, if you want, one trade up accordingly.

Honestly though this the year for the saints to do it, won’t get the opportunity over the next few years

We offered you a trade and you said no.

Doubt you get a better offer then what we gave you if you are considering a 2 spot slide back for a F2.

I know my mobs at the mercy of the 6 live picks before it. Is what it is.

I can live with best available at 7 and then splitting 8 and getting 2 in the teens.

 

[Chip Scab1]

We offered you a trade and you said no.

Doubt you get a better offer then what we gave you if you are considering a 2 spot slide back for a F2.

I know my mobs at the mercy of the 6 live picks before it. Is what it is.

I can live with best available at 7 and then splitting 8 and getting 2 in the teens.

We can't even get 2 in the teens for pick 2, you'll be lucky to get 8 back without adding a future 2nd.

 

[Reagan Smash]

Go home Stavros

 

[stavro#4]

We can't even get 2 in the teens for pick 2, you'll be lucky to get 8 back without adding a future 2nd.

We have all our picks and likely need to move 32 because of those pesky academy bids.

So we will get those picks if we want them.

The issue here is that you probably don’t want to slide 2 back that far and no one is giving anyone a bounty for future picks this year.

 

[DesertRoo]

We offered you a trade and you said no.

Doubt you get a better offer then what we gave you if you are considering a 2 spot slide back for a F2.

I know my mobs at the mercy of the 6 live picks before it. Is what it is.

I can live with best available at 7 and then splitting 8 and getting 2 in the teens.

Notice nobody wants to leave the top 5?
It’s those mids who stand head and shoulders above the rest, ignore the media noise.
A king ransom will need to be paid to move up into those spots

 

[stavro#4]

Notice nobody wants to leave the top 5?
It’s those mids who stand head and shoulders above the rest, ignore the media noise.
A king ransom will need to be paid to move up into those spots

I’d say nobody wants to leave the top 7 as the first trade out is rumoured to be pick 8 and seemingly all the noise is that Tauru is taken.

So we get one of those mids.

Point was more I think Tauru gets an unfair wrap on here. I’ve seen the kid live a few times. Better than a lot of you give him credit for.

The footage is available for anyone to view for themselves these days. It’s evident watching his last 4-5 games why he has bolted.

 

[The Talent Scout]

I think Mac Andrew is considered to be the future AFL KP profile. Tauru appears to be in a similar mould.

The thing is, before Mac got drafted, recruiters were very excited but unsure of what position he will finally settle into, with Alix its down to two, key forward/key defender. On potential wise , yes very very similar.

 

[Mixed Results]

When we moved on from McKay, I mentioned how the value of intercept marking is dependent on the skill of the player. That's why the comparisons between Tauru and names like Sicily and Stewart completely fall apart.

An intercept mark is a visually appealing play, but if it leads to a slow Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

disposal, then it's no less impactful than a spoil. In fact, there's an argument that names like McKay and Tauru are better off spoiling than risking a forward half turnover.

If the plan is to swindle a future second from Adelaide and then draft FOS/Draper at #4, then I'll tip my hat to Brady Rawlings

Brady Rawlings

Age

43

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.8

3star

. If the plan is to take Tauru, then a pick in the 30s a year from now is nowhere near enough value back to pass on the top end of this year's draft.

Under Rawlings and Clayton, I've been absolutely thrilled with how they've handled their top end selections. They've always gone with safe high upside players with natural feels for the game, and so far it has paid off. Draper and FOS are the Clayton/Rawlings guys this year. Both play with such smooth movements and natural feels for the game, just like a Sheezel, McKercher, or Wardlaw. Both are near certain 200 game players.

Tauru seems so off brand for that tandem, that I'm left with concern that Thursfield has taken over and is risking a top 2 pick on a player with a flashy highlight reel and not much else. If Thursfield is in charge now, then selecting Tauru inspires me with zero confidence in him.

Tauru likely will be a good player, and if we select him then I'll completely be on board and wish him all the best, but at this point in time I have strong doubts he'll be as good as Draper or FOS.

 

[Passmore]

When we moved on from McKay, I mentioned how the value of intercept marking is dependent on the skill of the player. That's why the comparisons between Tauru and names like Sicily and Stewart completely fall apart.

An intercept mark is a visually appealing play, but if it leads to a slow Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

26

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

disposal, then it's no less impactful than a spoil. In fact, there's an argument that names like McKay and Tauru are better off spoiling than risking a forward half turnover.

If the plan is to swindle a future second from Adelaide and then draft FOS/Draper at #4, then I'll tip my hat to Brady Rawlings

Brady Rawlings

Age

43

Ht

184cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.8

3star

. If the plan is to take Tauru, then a pick in the 30s a year from now is nowhere near enough value back to pass on the top end of this year's draft.

Under Rawlings and Clayton, I've been absolutely thrilled with how they've handled their top end selections. They've always gone with safe high upside players with natural feels for the game, and so far it has paid off. Draper and FOS are the Clayton/Rawlings guys this year. Both play with such smooth movements and natural feels for the game, just like a Sheezel, McKercher, or Wardlaw. Both are near certain 200 game players.

Tauru seems so off brand for that tandem, that I'm left with concern that Thursfield has taken over and is risking a top 2 pick on a player with a flashy highlight reel and not much else. If Thursfield is in charge now, then selecting Tauru inspires me with zero confidence in him.

Tauru likely will be a good player, and if we select him then I'll completely be on board and wish him all the best, but at this point in time I have strong doubts he'll be as good as Draper or FOS.

Tauru isn't as slow in mind and body as Magoo. He looks a really good athlete.

I think the disposal is more hit and miss than downright poor. I guess the question is is it fixable in a professional environment or terminal?

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[Chip Scab1]

We have all our picks and likely need to move 32 because of those pesky academy bids.

So we will get those picks if we want them.

The issue here is that you probably don’t want to slide 2 back that far and no one is giving anyone a bounty for future picks this year.

I really don't care what you have. Unless it's offered to my club, it didn't occur.

7,32,2025R1 > 2, does work for me. If you want to move out of mid table madness that is - what you have is just acceptable, not some huge over pay you think it is and frankly, don't care whether you do or don't offer that.

I keep reading you have but I don't believe it. You're in position to grab a decent not elite (Midfielder) which is in your best interest as you are in need of a few A Grade midfield talents, irrespective of what you say in terms of you having A Grade talent in there already, which you don't.

 

[the big lebowski]

An intercept mark is a visually appealing play, but if it leads to a slow Ben McKay disposal, then it's no less impactful than a spoil. In fact, there's an argument that names like McKay and Tauru are better off spoiling than risking a forward half turnover.

Hmmmm not sure I can agree with that.

I’ll take a mark and a kick over a spoil to a 50/50 any day no matter who the player is. Anyone can kick it long 50m down the line to a contest.

Very few can spoil a ball over 15m, nor direct it to a team mate.

Re Ben McKay,
Turnover Intercept
Mckay. 1.3. 8.1

Corr. 1.9. 4.8

Comben. 2.1. 7.0

 

[travelli]

When we moved on from McKay, I mentioned how the value of intercept marking is dependent on the skill of the player. That's why the comparisons between Tauru and names like Sicily and Stewart completely fall apart.

An intercept mark is a visually appealing play, but if it leads to a slow Ben McKay disposal, then it's no less impactful than a spoil. In fact, there's an argument that names like McKay and Tauru are better off spoiling than risking a forward half turnover.

If the plan is to swindle a future second from Adelaide and then draft FOS/Draper at #4, then I'll tip my hat to Brady Rawlings. If the plan is to take Tauru, then a pick in the 30s a year from now is nowhere near enough value back to pass on the top end of this year's draft.

Under Rawlings and Clayton, I've been absolutely thrilled with how they've handled their top end selections. They've always gone with safe high upside players with natural feels for the game, and so far it has paid off. Draper and FOS are the Clayton/Rawlings guys this year. Both play with such smooth movements and natural feels for the game, just like a Sheezel, McKercher, or Wardlaw. Both are near certain 200 game players.

Tauru seems so off brand for that tandem, that I'm left with concern that Thursfield has taken over and is risking a top 2 pick on a player with a flashy highlight reel and not much else. If Thursfield is in charge now, then selecting Tauru inspires me with zero confidence in him.

Tauru likely will be a good player, and if we select him then I'll completely be on board and wish him all the best, but at this point in time I have strong doubts he'll be as good as Draper or FOS.

Or lalor or jagga.

There are 4 absolute standouts this draft. Tauru is not one of them

 

[shintemaster]

Imagine the melts if we don't draft Tauru and he ends up being an all-time great player...

This happens out of every draft, usually multiple times, there will always be great players we could have had when you look back 10 years later. You can't let a bit of media buzz determine your whole strategy.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

When we moved on from McKay, I mentioned how the value of intercept marking is dependent on the skill of the player. That's why the comparisons between Tauru and names like Sicily and Stewart completely fall apart.

An intercept mark is a visually appealing play, but if it leads to a slow Ben McKay disposal, then it's no less impactful than a spoil. In fact, there's an argument that names like McKay and Tauru are better off spoiling than risking a forward half turnover.

If the plan is to swindle a future second from Adelaide and then draft FOS/Draper at #4, then I'll tip my hat to Brady Rawlings. If the plan is to take Tauru, then a pick in the 30s a year from now is nowhere near enough value back to pass on the top end of this year's draft.

Under Rawlings and Clayton, I've been absolutely thrilled with how they've handled their top end selections. They've always gone with safe high upside players with natural feels for the game, and so far it has paid off. Draper and FOS are the Clayton/Rawlings guys this year. Both play with such smooth movements and natural feels for the game, just like a Sheezel, McKercher, or Wardlaw. Both are near certain 200 game players.

Tauru seems so off brand for that tandem, that I'm left with concern that Thursfield has taken over and is risking a top 2 pick on a player with a flashy highlight reel and not much else. If Thursfield is in charge now, then selecting Tauru inspires me with zero confidence in him.

Tauru likely will be a good player, and if we select him then I'll completely be on board and wish him all the best, but at this point in time I have strong doubts he'll be as good as Draper or FOS.

The first two paragraphs are exactly why I don’t see the ceiling that others see. I rate his aggression and athleticism but I think he’d probably be more suited to playing a key forward, but even still he is a little undersized and doesn’t have enough exposed form to justify a top 10 pick.

If we were going for a safe reliable interceptor with fantastic character then Luke Trainor should be our target.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Or lalor or jagga.

There are 4 absolute standouts this draft. Tauru is not one of them

I would be adding Kangford (ok that was a spelling error but I’m keeping it) if reports/rumours of North’s interest are true.

I just want us to pick the smartest player with best playing intensity. After watching literally tens of two minute highlights, I’m willing to claim that Kangford is that player.

 

[the big lebowski]

I hadn’t seen this vid of Alix.

Debuted for Warragul seniors as a 16 year old in 2023.

20 disposals, 12 marks 3 goals



Not bad lol

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

The first two paragraphs are exactly why I don’t see the ceiling that others see. I rate his aggression and athleticism but I think he’d probably be more suited to playing a key forward, but even still he is a little undersized and doesn’t have enough exposed form to justify a top 10 pick.

If we were going for a safe reliable interceptor with fantastic character then Luke Trainor should be our target.

Would you consider a f1 for Melbourne’s 9 to grab Tauru a good stat if we are able to nab one of the big 5 mids this year?

 

[GS WARRIORS]

I hadn’t seen this vid of Alix.

Debuted for Warragul seniors as a 16 year old in 2023.

20 disposals, 12 marks 3 goals



Not bad lol

Looked to be a potential CHF here.

 

[justroyal]

Takes me back to picking up a defender in EVW to be a giant mid. Even though he himself didn't think he could be a mid.

Honestly, this triggered me.
Didn’t we grab like three? EVW, Durdin and Nielsen? We thought we were set. Surely at least one/two of those would be destined to be our pillars down back?

 

[the big lebowski]

Looked to be a potential CHF here.

They went after him as well.

Not surprising when you have a blonde kid out marking the whole team

Looked like reiwovldt

 

[Old Ken Boy]

Hi I have posted very little over the years, but am an avid reader. A question for the Draft experts: Where would W Dawson be ranked in this draft?

 

[the big lebowski]

Hi I have posted very little over the years, but am an avid reader. A question for the Draft experts: Where would W Dawson be ranked in this draft?

I’d say late 30’s/ early 40’s.

Couldn’t argue he’s done more in his draft year than

Whitlocks (15-25)
Trainor (20ish)

Around on par with Ofarrell, Barnett

 

[Footywizard]

Tauru will be a jet. It’s time we pull the trigger.

If we take a mid I assume we’ve stamped will Philips papers that he won’t make it….and it lf that’s the case then a mid makes sense.

Otherwise tauru is the man we need. It’s not that much of a reach no matter how we spin it

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

I hadn’t seen this vid of Alix.

Debuted for Warragul seniors as a 16 year old in 2023.

20 disposals, 12 marks 3 goals



Not bad lol

I’m probably completely off the mark here but I get pre-draft Jack Riewoldt vibes with Tauru. Athletic, big floating leaps, limbs flying everywhere.