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[The Nostradamus]

btw eagles losing pick 3 for unders doesn't impact us negatively, thats just them being nuffies

if anything them trading that pick helps us as teams know the only top 4 pick up for grabs is ours now

so if you want Lalor, FOS,Jagga, Draper you need to target our pick

otherwise we are taking them and so are the clubs around us

 

[DocSholl]

Hypothetical: We rate Tauru as the best player and fit for us and are confident that he doesn’t go in the first half dozen picks. Richmond offers 6 and 18 for our pick two. Do we:

a) hold firm, tell them we need ‘overs’, take Tauru at 2 and congratulate ourselves on not getting bent over at the trade table, or

b) do the trade, take Tauru at 6 and pick up another KP prospect (Faull? Trainor?) at 18

I know which outcome I’d rather.

I mean I could also create a hypothetical that reaches the logical conclusion that 6/18 is a bad trade

 

[shinboner magic]

The players available at pick 2 - won’t be the same players available at picks 10,11,18.
It’s about quality not quantity

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Where would you have McKercher, Duursma, Sheezel and Wardlaw in that mix?

Based on where I ranked them in their draft years

1. Wardlaw
2. McKercher
3. Levi Ashcroft
4. Sheezel
5. Jagga Smith
6. Finn O'Sullivan
7. Duursma

 

[hurricane]

I mean I could also create a hypothetical that reaches the logical conclusion that 6/18 is a bad trade

That assumes Tauru isn't taken in the top 5 (if he was our preferred choice at 2 we would want to be confident).

The other alternative is we are happy with one of the six top prospects.

Yes, you’re both right, it was just a plausible scenario. My point is that you don’t necessarily have to ‘win the trade’ or ‘get overs’ to improve our overall position.

There’s lots of posturing on here that misses that point. The last club that regularly won the trade period has now gone twenty odd years without a finals win.

 

[shinboner magic]

If it’s 6+18 for 2 , 20 better be coming along as a chaperone

 

[roos_fanatic08]

The players available at pick 2 - won’t be the same players available at picks 10,11,18.
It’s about quality not quantity

I disagree, the eveness of this draft could see players who are rated by some clubs in the top 5, fall as far as picks in the late teens.

A perfect example is someone like Murphy Reid there are clubs who have him rated in the top 6, while there are others who have him late teens.

For mine, at this stage of our rebuild it's about quantity. Particularly this year because of the talls available.

 

[LB2Snake]

Just waiting for Wreck-em Ralphy to get on his soap box and start spruiking Pick 2 for 11 & 20 ‘Is great for North’ agenda in his paper and Fox Footy gigs..

You know it’s gonna happen, just a matter of time..

Like clockwork it'll happen

 

[Firebat]

I disagree, the eveness of this draft could see players who are rated by some clubs in the top 5, fall as far as picks in the late teens.

A perfect example is someone like Murphy Reid there are clubs who have him rated in the top 6, while there are others who have him late teens.

For mine, at this stage of our rebuild it's about quantity. Particularly this year because of the talls available.

Can I get your expanded thoughts on Harry O'Farrell?

All the footage and limited highlights I’ve seen of him show a solid lad who has excellent defensive foundations. I really like the look of him as a prospect and was upset when we didn’t have a pick in the 25-35 range to use on him.

 

[Nutjob]

Probably why I'd take 6,18,20 for 2 and a F3.

We need more talent coming through the door. It's as simple as that for mine.

I would do that deal as well if it’s the best we can get. We cannot go to the draft with 2 and 62 with the holes in our list. Unless we can get back in with future picks, we need to get the best deal we can with Richmond.


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[roos_fanatic08]

Can I get your expanded thoughts on Harry O'Farrell?

All the footage and limited highlights I’ve seen of him show a solid lad who has excellent defensive foundations. I really like the look of him as a prospect and was upset when we didn’t have a pick in the 25-35 range to use on him.

I’m still of the opinion that he should be in the top 30. Defensively he is still the best one on one defender in this draft. Pretty solid athletic profile, competitive, good hands, and has high footy IQ. Intercepting is the flavour of the month, and while he is more than capable of strong marking I seen him more dour lockdown key defender at AFL levelwhich is probably why he had slipped a bit.

 

[Pravda Roo]

As a bit of a talking point I thought I'd do some player comparisons for my top 30. Curious to see others thoughts as this sort of thing is very subjective.

Pick	Name	Height	Position	Club	Plays Like
1	Levi Ashcroft	179cm	Midfielder	Sandringham Dragons	Lachie Neale or Caleb Serong
2	Jagga Smith	181cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Andrew Brayshaw or Nick Daicos
3	Sid Draper	180cm	Midfielder	South Adelaide	More inside Chad Warner
4	Finn O'Sullivan	182cm	Midfielder	Oakleigh Chargers	Isaac Heeney
5	Leo Lombard	178cm	Midfielder	GC Academy	Faster and more agile Touk Miller
6	Harvey Langford	190cm	Midfielder	Dandenong Stingrays	Jack Ziebell with better running capacity & decision making
7	Sam Lalor	187cm	Midfielder/General Forward	GWV Rebels	Bigger bodied Jordan De Goey
8	Josh Smillie	194cm	Midfielder	Eastern Ranges	Less Contested Patrick Cripps
9	Jack Whitlock	200cm	Key Forward	Murray Bushrangers	Ben King
10	Harry Armstrong	193cm	Key Forward	Sandringham Dragons	Less dynamic Jeremy Cameron
11	Alix Tauru	191cm	General Defender	Gippsland Power	Charlie Curnow Forward - Harry Himmelberg Defence
12	Luke Trainor	194cm	Key Defender	Sandringham Dragons	Luke Ryan or Jordan Ridley
13	Murphy Reid	180cm	Midfielder	Sandringham Dragons	Less contested Harry Sheezel
14	Jobe Shanahan	194cm	Key Forward	Bendigo Pioneers	Jesse Hogan
15	Tobie Travaglia	187cm	General Defender	Bendigo Pioneers	Less polished, better overhead Lachie Whitfield
16	Alex Dodson	203cm	Ruck	Sturt	Dean Cox
17	Kayle Gerreyn	199cm	Key Forward/Ruck	West Perth	Less contested marking Tom Hawkins
18	Bo Allen	191cm	General Defender/Midfielder	Peel Thunder	Josh Dunkley midfield - Luke Ryan Defence
19	Xavier Lindsay	183cm	Midfielder	Gippsland Power	Will Day
20	Joe Berry	180cm	Small Forward	Murray Bushrangers	Dylan Moore
21	Matt Whitlock	198cm	Key Defender	Murray Bushrangers	Ben McKay defence - Brody Mihochek Forward
22	Isaac Kako	175cm	Small Forward	Calder Cannons	A combo of Nick Watson and Zac Bailey
23	Jonty Faull	195cm	Key Forward	GWV Rebels	Josh Treacy
24	Taj Hotton	182cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Sandringham Dragons	Connor Rozee
25	Oliver Hannaford	180cm	Midfielder	GWV Falcons	Ben Keays
26	Cooper Hynes	190cm	Midfielder/General Forward	Dandenong Stingrays	Kyle Langford Forward - Jack Ziebell Midfield
27	Tom Sims	199cm	Key Forward	Northern Knights	More mobile Peter Wright
28	Malakai Champion	172cm	Small Forward	Subiaco	Shai Bolton
29	Tom Gross	181cm	Midfelder	Oakleigh Chargers	Jack Crisp
30	Harry O'Farrell	196cm	Key Defender	Calder Cannons	Tom Barrass

Good effort roos_fanatic2018, will post my phantom later today with a few smokes thrown in.

 

[giantroo]

Look at the Eagles trade, it'll be 6 and 20 ay best id gather.

That would STILL suit us if i am honest. No one is getting overs, no one even offered overs for JHF or Reid in those drafts

Eagles trade included Baker and Owies as well. Can't compare it. If you want to compare, the 2022 trade for pick 2 is about right. Pick 8 and 12.

Pick 2 DVI = 2517
Pick 8 & 12 = 2819

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

Tiger nuffies are adamant they are taking Lalor and FOS at 1 and 2 if you trade your picks. Personally, them passing on Jagga would be a huge mistake.

I think you guys should keep 2 and take one of Smith, FOS or Draper.

Question is what is better…

Jagga

Or

Tauru and Berry (for example)

 

[year of the roo]

Good effort roos_fanatic2018, will post my phantom later today with a few smokes thrown in.

It's OK, you don't need to.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Tiger nuffies are adamant they are taking Lalor and FOS at 1 and 2 if you trade your picks. Personally, them passing on Jagga would be a huge mistake.

I think you guys should keep 2 and take one of Smith, FOS or Draper.

Question is what is better…

Jagga

Or

Tauru and Berry (for example)

i think we take lalor/fos at 2

 

[Pravda Roo]

It's OK, you don't need to.

,

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Thing is, with pick 2 you take exactly who you want. With pick 6, you take whoever is left. I'd say that's a bit of a difference.

We would be selecting at 7 with the following definitely off the board:

Smith (Rich), Ashcroft (Bris), Lalor (Rich), FOS (Carl), Draper (Ade).

The rest is kind of hit and miss. Melbourne could go tall (Armstrong/Tauru) or best mid available. At the very least, one of Armstrong and Tauru will be available.

Hypothetical: We rate Tauru as the best player and fit for us and are confident that he doesn’t go in the first half dozen picks. Richmond offers 6 and 18 for our pick two. Do we:

a) hold firm, tell them we need ‘overs’, take Tauru at 2 and congratulate ourselves on not getting bent over at the trade table, or

b) do the trade, take Tauru at 6 and pick up another KP prospect (Faull? Trainor?) at 18

I know which outcome I’d rather.

Clubs don’t remember petty juvenile wins in trades over the opposition.

Clubs care about tangible differences that the best fits make in helping to win games.

Only sad internet supporters are stupid enough to crow over draft “overs”.

Get the people in who can identify the best talent for our needs. Pick the best talent for our needs. Win games.

 

[BoomerRoo]

Tiger nuffies are adamant they are taking Lalor and FOS at 1 and 2 if you trade your picks. Personally, them passing on Jagga would be a huge mistake.

I think you guys should keep 2 and take one of Smith, FOS or Draper.

Question is what is better…

Jagga

Or

Tauru and Berry (for example)

They won't pass on Jagga & if we hold pick 2, we wont pass on Draper..... so I hear.

 

[Passmore]

They won't pass on Jagga & if we hold pick 2, we wont pass on Draper..... so I hear.

Would we pass on Jagga if we were in a position to get him?

 

[BoomerRoo]

Would we pass on Jagga if we were in a position to get him?

I doubt it.

And for the record, I'm a "split pick 2" supporter at the moment.

 

[Passmore]

I doubt it.

And for the record, I'm a "split pick 2" supporter at the moment.

Righto….do we like anyone at say 6ish….that you’ve heard….

 

[Footywizard]

i think we take lalor/fos at 2

You wouldn’t have a clue mate

 

[DuckYeah]

i think we take lalor/fos at 2

Does Twomey still have Langford at 2?

 

[zoomba23]

The players available at pick 2 - won’t be the same players available at picks 10,11,18.
It’s about quality not quantity

All we've heard about is how even this draft is.

We've:
Coughed up our second and third rounders to bring in experience
Picked four blokes in the top four of the draft in the last two years

Surely the logical move given the above is to split. Ok so you're taking on more risk, but if it's as even as everyone is saying it is, we'll be a good shot at addressing some list needs with some solid talent. Supposedly, key forward territory stretches from just beneath the standout crop of four mids into the 20s. That's enticing imo