Analysis 2024 National Draft

Who will be our first selection on night 2 of the Draft?


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Am I the only one who isn't enthused by the prospect of O'Sullivan? He just doesn't really seem to have any x-factor IMO.

Feel like the upside with Smith and Draper is far higher.

Admittedly have only seen some basic highlights so could very well be getting this wrong... What am I missing here?
Well, the Tigers have him in the mix for pick 1. Kangaroo are likely to take him at 2, and we would take him at 3 if he was still there.

So the answer is- many on here have picked holes in his game. The recruiters on the other hand......... .........

So it depends if you put more credence on the opinions of big footy posters or professional recruiters.
 

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Go watch the highlights of him taking huge overhead marks & slotting every type of goal u would like to see.
FOS is likely to make any debate about what pick to take him seem silly in a few years.
Go watch the Eastern Rangers v Oakleigh Coats game during the year. FOS played midfield the entire game. Less game time overall than Jagga but compare the pair.
 
Which is the quickest Bull who can break free and deliver the ball well ... and can kick a Goal?

That's our Man!

*Did I mention not injury prone?
 
Of the 4 considerations for our Pick 3 i am secretly hoping it will be in order:

1. Lalor
2. Draper
3. FOS/Smith

I think Lalor is a level above as a prospect.
Draper as the second best overall and best for us in short and long term.
FOS as the dual position with huge upside.
Smith will help equally as Draper in short term and longterm. I just rate him a touch less offensive and a bit more defensive than Draper.

I respect Cal's track record though, and it seems as though Lalor is gone. It seems like we will take FOS if he is there. If he's not it looks like Jagga. With Sid still a chance though.

Money would have to be with Jagga now though.

Go Jagga you beauty.
 
Okay assuming its Smith at #3, can we run a poll on which Stones song we should play when he gets presented a Carlton jumper.

I like this one - especially at 1.14 when Keith takes care of an over enthusiastic spectator.... :guitar: :p

 
Is Smith quick? Worried our midfield is going to continue to be slow.

Assuming we end up with Smith, I think he plays from round 1. He is not explosive, but has elite evasiveness. In the draftpool, against his peers, Ive heard it explained he would win the ball from stoppage 60 times out of 100. He is that good! So while he has some knocks on his game, I think he can push Walsh out and have him play off the backline again, storming through the middle like he did in 2023. Walsh on the outside is when he is at his best. That is my thinking for addressing "speed"... get Jagga to get it to Cerra and Walsh bursting on the outside
 
Of the 4 considerations for our Pick 3 i am secretly hoping it will be in order:

1. Lalor
2. Draper
3. FOS/Smith

I think Lalor is a level above as a prospect.
Draper as the second best overall and best for us in short and long term.
FOS as the dual position with huge upside.
Smith will help equally as Draper in short term and longterm. I just rate him a touch less offensive and a bit more defensive than Draper.

I respect Cal's track record though, and it seems as though Lalor is gone. It seems like we will take FOS if he is there. If he's not it looks like Jagga. With Sid still a chance though.

Money would have to be with Jagga now though.

Go Jagga you beauty.




...and we'll be surprised he was still available at Pick #3
 
Assuming we end up with Smith, I think he plays from round 1. He is not explosive, but has elite evasiveness. In the draftpool, against his peers, Ive heard it explained he would win the ball from stoppage 60 times out of 100. He is that good! So while he has some knocks on his game, I think he can push Walsh out and have him play off the backline again, storming through the middle like he did in 2023. Walsh on the outside is when he is at his best. That is my thinking for addressing "speed"... get Jagga to get it to Cerra and Walsh bursting on the outside
Correct take. Jagga is the best / quickest I’ve seen at pouncing on a loose ball at a contest. We have zero dynamism around the contest, particularly if the ball doesn’t bounce our way. I think people have been overstating the burst forward from stoppage argument. Jagga can do that but he can do so much more as well.
 

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I haven't changed my view on the players in our target range.

1. Langford, strong and lateral movement. Hardly ever gets caught with the ball. Can take a contested mark, his left foot is an absolute weapon. Will have the capacity to play HB and HF. I am not worried about his 20m speed testing.

2. FOS, similar skillset to Langford with a bit more straight line speed, does not have the same level of football IQ or willingness to work of the ball as Langford.

3. Jagga, very agile, will be a great high possession link up player. High IQ and work rate. Kicking lacks penetration, often kicks of the inside of his foot. Just not sold as a top 3 player. I have him at ranked 5-6.

4. Sid, great highlights reel, love his burst of pace and mix of outside/ inside. With the excess pace you sacrifice efficiency. So whilst he is a POD and gives us additional speed, we do not get kicking efficiency POD that we need. I am also concerned about his durability. I have him ranked 7-8.

Draper, just as agile as Smith, arguably even more so...

Got any stats on his so called kicking inefficiency or shooting from the hip?

p.s. tigers won three flags getting the ball into F50 as fast as they humanly could.... Danger won a Brownlow doing the same thing....
 
Is Smith quick? Worried our midfield is going to continue to be slow.

He's slick, and he operates half a second ahead of everyone else on the field. So while not express by way of top speed or raw acceleration, he's always on the move and when he gets the ball he generally already knows what he's gonna be doing with it.

But also, he's not slow, by any stretch of the imagination.

Seriously though, just check out some Youtube highlights of the top few. You'll find videos of 5-10 mins that give you a pretty good idea of what we'd be expecting to get from Smith, Draper, FOS or, at a stretch, Langford.

Cliff notes:
Smith - agile, instinctive midfielder who racks it up and uses it well. Light frame the question mark.
Draper - burst midfielder with great acceleration, top speed and ball handling. Good defensive game. Disposal both by hand and foot a little iffy at times (for a top mid, he's not an outright poor user), and recent back injury which is hard to assess from the cheap seats.
FOS - hybrid mid/fwd with a wicked side step, sticky hands and quality disposal. Lower disposal numbers than other options and had an injury-interrupted year which prevented him from really getting going. Highly regarded coming into the year based on 2023 bottom age form.
Langford - big bodied midfielder who could impact up forward or down back as well. Great mark, beautiful left foot, operates well in traffic, good endurance runner. Top speed the worst of this bunch.

I don't think any of them make us slower. Langford is probably net neutral, the other three make us faster in different ways.
 
Go watch the highlights of him taking huge overhead marks & slotting every type of goal u would like to see.
FOS is likely to make any debate about what pick to take him seem silly in a few years.
FOS looks great when you put all his highlights together but when you actually watch his games, he has as many head scratching moment as great ones. Might be the injuries. Might not.

A player like him will always have a better highlights real then Smith. Doesn't mean hes better.

While FOS and Lalor have higher upside, more often the not the Smith type ends up the better player.
 
Ok, is Harley Reid mates with any of these boys where looking at taking in a couple of nights time??
We take the one that is and then wait until Reid finishes his p-plate 3 year contract.
Then we get his mate to help convince to come home to blues.
Perfect! Midfield of Reid, who ever we take in two days time, Walsh, cez ect
 

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