Analysis 2024 National Draft

[Aphrodite]

Broadcast Guide - Live Draft ...

1st Round tonight (20th Nov) from 7.00PM
2nd Round tomorrow night (21st Nov) from 7.00PM

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[Bletch]

I am hearing Aints are talking with tigers to split pick 8 with tw of their later picks

I'm sure Richmond will be looking to do something with picks 18, 20, 23. Pick 24 will be traded for a future 1st prior to day two of the draft. They'll want to use 1, 6, 10, 11 and use two of those latter three picks to trade up. 18 and 20 for Saints 8 would be ideal. That would give the Tigs 6 picks at the ND, which I think is the number they'd like.

 

[Aphrodite]

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[Matty411]

Wonder if we saw someone like Moraes slide into the 30s whether we take him or go with the best available key back...

Also wondering if Sellwood is in our sights if he gets to rookie draft or whether we jump ahead of WC in the main draft.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Wonder if we saw someone like Moraes slide into the 30s whether we take him or go with the best available key back...

Also wondering if Sellwood is in our sights if he gets to rookie draft or whether we jump ahead of WC in the main draft.

I thought I read that Selwood didn’t nominate for the draft and therefore could only be taken as SSP?

 

[BlueNath]

I'm sure Richmond will be looking to do something with picks 18, 20, 23. Pick 24 will be traded for a future 1st prior to day two of the draft. They'll want to use 1, 6, 10, 11 and use two of those latter three picks to trade up. 18 and 20 for Saints 8 would be ideal. That would give the Tigs 6 picks at the ND, which I think is the number they'd like.

I believe the Tigs really like Bo Allen and are now concerned he wont get to 10, but dont want to take him at 6. So pick 8 will allow them to secure him also

 

[Bale Dup]

We'll probably only have to worry about BT.

And Russell. He won't miss the opportunity.

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[Coona Blues]

My dream scenario based on being a supporter and amateur recruiter with no real idea

Pick 3: Harvey Langford (Gun Mid)
Pick 38: Harry O'Farrell (Young Tall Defender)
Pick 63: Ben Camporeale (Mid)
Pick 68: Lucas Camporeale (HBF)

Rookie 1: Will Hayes (Speedy Small Forward)
Rookie 2: Isiah Winder or Coby Burgiel (Both have speed and talent and are still young)

SSP: Liam McMahon (Great person who can play KPF, KPD or 2nd ruck)

When trying to project our rookie outcomes, I believe the biggest single factor (which I reckon the recruiters have factored in) has to be our confidence or lack of it, in Harry Lemmey.

Lemmey could be a key at either end, I still believe would be better behind the ball. If he is to be a long term piece, then surely he has to get a taste of senior football in 2025, as in EARN IT. His intensity is questionable from appearances, but that can be a misconception from those of us outside the inner sanctum. Should the club have doubts on him, then surely we take the opportunity to add TWO potential long term key position prospects. I have not given up on Lemmey, he has had some good moments. I have observed he seems better served/more comfortable behind the ball or pinch hitting in the ruck, where he is inserted in to the game as opposed to as a forward play maker.

Denver Grainger-Barras is quite fascinating. Underwhelming at the Hawks in a strong developmental environment, wher they have clearly tried to make him a KPP rather than an interceptor. Surely he has to be spectacularly impressive to command a spot during his train on period. Do we see him as a possible KPD, or are we looking for a longer term third tall defensive type? The bloke was incredibly highly regarded as a draftee could be a revelation or a waste of a spot.

Have we moved on from Kemp as a defender? Is the suggestion of Jack Silvagni being groomed in defence a genuine one?
Do we see Nick Haynes as a genuine mentor type and want to use his influence on multiple young players? Surely ther is a scenario where we do not need to add “depth” through the rookie draft.

Charlie West has had plenty of mentions and would be a genuine swingman. There is a reality where he slips to the rookie draft and becomes a real option, rather than using the rookie draft for more mature players which is becoming the norm across a great many clubs.

I am more than happy if we pick up Liam McMahon as a rookie or in the SSP period as he has more than earned his chance. Again his recruitment would somewhat depend on club projections for Lemmey. Overall though, I would love to use the rookie draft for genuine rookies. Again pre emptive, do we consider a ruck? Do we expect Pittonet to move on for opportunity next year? If Young is to move on when his contract ends, we lose more ruck depth, so we will have a need. Do we use a free rookie spot for a hybrid small forward type? I have decent regard for Jacob Newton from SA if that were the case. The other possible need is the next generation of defensive rebounders, but they may well be already there with some redeployment.

I may be prone to over thinking, but find the bottom end of the draft process as fascinating as the pointy end. I can’t help thinking we need to fill all of our gaps so that for future drafts, we are drafting best available rather than compromising to fill gaps.

 

[BlueNath]

I'm sure Richmond will be looking to do something with picks 18, 20, 23. Pick 24 will be traded for a future 1st prior to day two of the draft. They'll want to use 1, 6, 10, 11 and use two of those latter three picks to trade up. 18 and 20 for Saints 8 would be ideal. That would give the Tigs 6 picks at the ND, which I think is the number they'd like.

No matter what you think of SOS, a move to trade 8 for two of Tigs picks from 18, 20 and 23 is something he would do. Its smart as he has read the room and realises that the Tigs are not trading any of their earlier picks. So get in early to accept two later picks before everyone else. Tigs then can get their men Smilie and Allen at 6 and 8

 

[Rugged Blue Bagger]

Butters in his draft year was
178cm 70kg
20 mtr sprint 3.015
Agility test 8.184
Endurance test?

Strengths
Speed, Agility, X-factor, Vision, Scope

Improvements
Endurance, Strength

Smith
182cm 70kg
20 mtr sprint 3.038
Agility test ?
Endurance test 6.23

Strengths
Decision Making
Accumulation
Clean hands
Agility
Stoppage Craft
Leadership
Footy IQ

For comparison, Butters now sitting at 181/182cm & hearing around the 79/80kg playing weight 2024

Jagger likely to end up 184/185cm with a similar playing weight 3/4 years in

 

[Rugged Blue Bagger]

I wouldn’t call Walsh quick

Walsh is slow. We all know that. He is evasive in close but one paced on the outside. We have a very slow midfield

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

ZH on Sid:

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Walsh is slow. We all know that. He is evasive in close but one paced on the outside. We have a very slow midfield

he's not slow when he's not injured....

 

[Benaly28]

I’m gonna call it now.

He will be in Cals top 40










….. But not Knightmares

I’d say he’d go top 10


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[Bletch]

I thought I read that Selwood didn’t nominate for the draft and therefore could only be taken as SSP?

He didn't nominate for the draft:

Final list of nominees for the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

Check out the full list of 1044 nominees for the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft

www.afl.com.au

Also:
"To be eligible for the SSP, players must have nominated for the most recent AFL Draft or previously been on an AFL list. "

AFL locks in dates, clarifies rules for pre-season SSP

The pre-season supplemental selection period will run from November 27 to February 19

www.afl.com.au

From this, I don't believe he can be picked up at all - ND, RD, PSD, SSP, MSD - he's ineligible for all of them, unless he was previously on an AFL list, and I don't think he was.

 

[Benaly28]

Cannot wait for around 7:30/8pm tomorrow……this place gonna go off!


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[BlueAbroad]

 

[RPCB]

I want Jagga Smith. That is all.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I’d say he’d go top 10


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Top 5

 

[marcmurphy3]

Walsh is slow. We all know that. He is evasive in close but one paced on the outside. We have a very slow midfield

Thats garbage. Ran a 3.0 20m sprint at his combine. Has great endurance so can stay at max speed for longer. Often breaks away from opponents and runs with the ball.

I wouldnt call him fast but would be at least average if not slightly above as far as afl onballers. There arent actually that many mids that are really fast.

 

[ForYouBlue]

I'd still take Draper over Smith for us and our needs.

 

[Rugged Blue Bagger]

he's not slow when he's not injured....

Correct, I agree. But he has lost his pace since the back injury. I love Walshy and wish him back to his past best, but chances are what we have now is what we have got for the rest of his career. He's lost his speed since the back issue

 

[Rugged Blue Bagger]

Thats garbage. Ran a 3.0 20m sprint at his combine. Has great endurance so can stay at max speed for longer. Often breaks away from opponents and runs with the ball.

I wouldnt call him fast but would be at least average if not slightly above as far as afl onballers. There arent actually that many mids that are really fast.

Agree, he used to be but isnt anymore. The big question is can he get it back ??

 

[Coops93]

I don't think the Jagga/Daicos comparison is fair.

He's more Butters than Daicos. Not has recklessly hard at the ball as Butters but play style is similar.

His kicking is similar imo. Butters isn't an elite kick but is crafty. About a 50m limit on his boot but often scythes a crafty 25m pass on an angle - which I saw a bit of in Jagga.

I think Jagga potentially lacks the dynamism and excitement potential of some of the other potential top 5, but he'll essentially be another Walsh to a degree. Not super exciting with X-Factor but a game in game out performer.

My bias is towards someone with the game breaking ability but another consistent performer in the middle is always a +.

 

[BlueNath]

Thats garbage. Ran a 3.0 20m sprint at his combine. Has great endurance so can stay at max speed for longer. Often breaks away from opponents and runs with the ball.

I wouldnt call him fast but would be at least average if not slightly above as far as afl onballers. There arent actually that many mids that are really fast.

Agree. He is an endurance beast and motors at incredible speed for a mid. He just lacks that burst/explosion. But that makes sense... explosive players drain their batteries quicker.

If we were to get Jagga, Im sure it will be Walsh who is pushed out so he can get on the outside, where he is at his dynamic best. Id love to see Walsh playing that role off the backline again streaming through the middle with Cripps or Jagga feeding him

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Getting exciting now... Am i right in feeling like Jagga Smith seems like a clone of Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

??

Draper has C Judd traits, is it only that he is not from Vic that has him rated picks 5-8?

Also starting to feel like Ben Campo could be the steal of the draft... What was the reason both he and Lucas didnt play senior level SANFL?