Every AFL club’s list chasms — and the draftees who can fill them this off-season
Every AFL club’s list chasms — and the draftees who can fill them this off-season
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Just watched joes highlights, seems to be a slow decision maker. I’m a pass
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Asked Noober to mash up Jesse Datolli's game on the weekend given we've been linked to him a few times now on here. Convinced Austin is allergic to picking players who can run the 100m in less than 15seconds if the links are true.
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Looks much better here than what I saw in the SA footage
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SA game was one of his worse performances for the year imo (I haven't watched every game he's played but a fair few)
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berry or travaglia for mine. Berry seems to have potential midfield ability as an outside reciever bursting away from stoppage
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Looks like a very accomplished footballer, neat skills by hand and foot, both sides of the body. But yeah, it would be nice to get some pure speed into the side.
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Looks a mid at the next level to me. Kicking seems fairly good in this video too which is at least part of our problem he could help with, but he looks to go long a fair bit rather than hit up any short options or change angles.
Plenty of players who have much better balanced traits & skills and better upside than Dattoli, he’d be a pick at best in the 3rd round somewhere, we have Ben who should be in the 30’s and Lucas later on…
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Wouldn't be opposed to us finding the right pick for Harry Oliver, tough and a great left peg, reckon he might be one taken in the second round that is definitely going to be an AFL player
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I really liked his stoppage work and craft with hands in close. Looks like a natural footballer. A classic Voss/Austin selection. They like the tough big bodied mids with good hands
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Yes he looks the archetype for a Voss/Austin selection... Issue is that's not what we need in this team right now imo. We need a Collingwood, Sydney or GWS type player to balance out our brutish list
Yep, my periodic re watch of champs games has him more and more obvious as a star of the future. He is a very solid defender, reads it well, athletic enough and has an absolutely gorgeous left peg. Don’t remember seeing better kicking watching the kids. The perfect Saad replacement when the time comes. Lucas Camporeale may be earmarked for the role. Lucas has good disposal, but is more in to weighting kicks than direct, punchy connection. Oliver is in a different level.
An exercise with our list, less likely departures, shows a gaping hole in both tall and small/medium defenders. With Newman, Saad, Doc and McGovern relatively close to the finish, we need some pieces if generation next. Kemp remains a candidate for the McGovern third tall rebounder, but if he is deployed forward, we could end up almost “skint” very quickly. Cowan shapes as a 12 year defensive staple, but the Tassie expansion is yet to play out. He may end up an inaugural skipper candidate which would be hard to resist. Thinking Wilson will in time be a decent piece, and Ollie has shown up as an option, however may stay as a wing staple as Acres ages. The Campo boys could both play HBF, so we have options, but surely we needs some more players developing, hopefully including a likely elite option such as Oliver.
As to where Oliver goes in the draft, could be late first to as far as early third given the even group we have to choose from.
If Carlton are keen on Dattoli, from the look of the video, they are interested in a guy who can play both forward and midfield. In terms of him being a midfielder they may be looking for someone with some real agility around the stoppages who can get the loose ball or apply pressure. At 180cm he might provide that quick reaction around stoppages.
Dattoli does some really impressive things in the video. Some of the disposal is excellent. His contested work looks strong for his size. Will be really interested in his athletic testing at draft camp to get an idea of his speed,agility,endurance combination.
Dattoli and Gross are similar in terms of being 180cm players who are both strong in the contest and play both forward and midfield. Both seen as second round picks at this stage although l think it was said dattoli is on the rise and could go higher.
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How does he differ from Hotton?
Both Dattoli and Gross sound similar to me...If all three were available at our first pick which would you take?
Hotton looked terrific before acl. Would have been top 10. Is a favourite of mine.
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Hotton(not sure about acl though)
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Gross
Hotton is half forward/midfielder. Slightly taller medium forward than small. Plays a bit more outside than other two, really nice evasion and movement. Probably quicker. I think Hotton would suit Carlton’s needs, just depends on risk with acl.
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Don’t think any of us more casual observers can assess Hotton accurately.
His early season form was electric both midfield and forward, he is/was blessed with pace and athleticism arguably above anyone else in the draft class.
Should be ready to go in May, so arguably won’t miss much of the season. Does a club moving on from perennially injured players draft a kid off an ACL? I am sure there are degrees of the injury, clinical likely to return to pre injury levels and some who do a more complete job with more doubt on the prognosis and perhaps threat of re-injury. Kemp sure doesn’t show any residual effects of his.
I regard Dattoli and Gross as likely AFL standard players, but don’t see a big upgrade on the likes of Fogarty. They strike me as each way bets, conservative selections. BTW prefer Dattoli to Gross on my viewing, don’t see anything special re Gross. I actually like SA mid/small forward Jacob Newton as much as either, and he should be available much later in proceedings or maybe even the rookie draft. As usual most casual watcher are too “Viccentric”
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I'm still favouring Trevaglia, Oliver, berry or Lyndsay depending on where our first pick lands
Based on that single video I think dattoli would be a significant upgrade on Fogarty. Dattoli’s kicking is on another level. He’s just a far more polished player whilst still being strong in the contest.
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Need a KPD and someone with real pace - preferably in the midfield. Competent disposal a must, elite preferred. If we can keep 2 picks before Ben Campo then we should be able to get a potential gun with the first and a real shot at the second, remembering the draft is a gamble and there are plenty of guys who looked the goods who for whatever reason don't make it in the big league.
This type of post rankles me no end. I have stated that a raw 18yo is a possible upgrade on a proven AFL player who is pretty much first chosen in his role when fit. That is a fair shout out for the kid.
You choose to state that off a single video he would be a significant upgrade on Fogarty. That is incongruous. We would all like a few upgrades, but we don’t need to disrespect the boys to discuss it.
You talk as someone who hasn’t been on these forums for long. The amount of disrespect that goes on here and you’re worried about me seeing a future prospect as an upgrade on a current player. You need a bit of perspective.
Fogarty is an honest trier. That’s how l see him. He is limited.
When l describe dattoli as an upgrade it’s with a lot of projection. Based on what he does today he has significant upside over Fogarty. Do l know how hard he will work in an afl system, no. Will he have the work rate of Fogarty, l don’t know.
Maybe upside would have been a better word than upgrade.
Maybe we should go through all your old posts and check out the respect you have shown the boys.
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