Training 2024 Pre-Season

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True, however I can see his kick in's as a huge weapon.
Even more so in general play. He will have the ability to get over the pressed zone and out the back.
If the press is lengthened because of his distance, it opens space closer for the kick out or midfield on open play. If it is a tight press, he can play on for 15 metres and roost it over.
A boot like Hurn/Fletcher with a KPD size.

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Yeah - I don't him as KD type. I think if he can build on his intercept and contested possession game, his kicking would be a huge advantage.

Seeing flashes of a poor mans Dylan Roberton at Sandy would be a good starting point.
 
Only needs to get to the level where

"Cordy had 8 goals kicked on him, and only 5 disposals, we should have selected Alison , who surely only would have had 6 kicked on him and would easily have got 7 disposals ".
7 disposals would never come easily for Allison. In fact would be a record haul for him in any level he has played
 

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Paton strikes me that he has been playing without confidence since his leg break. Hopefully being thrown into the midfield improves his confidence and he gets a feel back to take the game on more. Before the injury he was projecting to be a much better player than he has shown , so hopefully he can get some form back.


Played there a bit at Sandy last year. Didn't set the world on fire but pretty sure he was drafted as a mid.
 
Didn’t watch super closely but a few observations from today:

Players look very fit
Windy had a sore back but nothing major
Playing group seemed up & about
Henry was very good - in everything & kicked the ball nicely - very nice pick up
Hill looked super fit
To the untrained eye Hunter looked much fitter (& I’ve been critical of him in the past)
Collard looks like he has some tricks but very slight
NAS & Sincs just never look hurried & always hit the next target - class!
Bonner seemed very prominent in the match sim - really worked hard up & down the ground
Owens will be a very difficult match up this season - powerful
Didnt do a lot but just reckon Garcia will be a good senior player
Caminiti just ran laps
Crouch & Jones worked very hard running laps & some drills - both said they expected to join full training next week.
Leigh Fisher and another AFL umpire umpired the match simulation

Just like last season - very professional training session; the players have a joke but it’s all business when the drills start. We look like a professional outfit!
 
Didn’t watch super closely but a few observations from today:

Players look very fit
Windy had a sore back but nothing major
Playing group seemed up & about
Henry was very good - in everything & kicked the ball nicely - very nice pick up
Hill looked super fit
To the untrained eye Hunter looked much fitter (& I’ve been critical of him in the past)
Collard looks like he has some tricks but very slight
NAS & Sincs just never look hurried & always hit the next target - class!
Bonner seemed very prominent in the match sim - really worked hard up & down the ground
Owens will be a very difficult match up this season - powerful
Didnt do a lot but just reckon Garcia will be a good senior player
Caminiti just ran laps
Crouch & Jones worked very hard running laps & some drills - both said they expected to join full training next week.
Leigh Fisher and another AFL umpire umpired the match simulation

Just like last season - very professional training session; the players have a joke but it’s all business when the drills start. We look like a professional outfit!
How did Leigh Fisher not self combust?! Had no oppo team to favour over Saints
 

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Training Report Friday 19th January

  • Crouch, Caminiti, Van Ess, Jones & Hayes in the rehab group.
  • Pou & Howard both went for a swim at the DFC.
  • No Butler. Also, I didn't notice Sharman.
  • Max & Marshall were called out to the middle where Marshall gave Max a good work out on his shoulder. Max got through easily and was involved in the general warm up with the group. He then joined the rehab group for a short time during match sim, but joined back in main training towards the end.
  • Crouch & Jones will be joining main training next week
  • Owens: I know a lot has been said about him, but it's hard not to take your eyes off him. He has presence. He makes some of our veterans look tiny. He is huge - particularly his thighs which are the size of tree trunks.
  • Liam Henry once again impressive. Very noticeable and his skills are actually really good. I know there was a question mark over his kicking but from what i have seen this pre-season, his skills have been excellent. He seems like he is enjoying being a saint and is very popular amongst the group. He and Hill work really well together and share similar attributes.
  • There was one kicking drill (kicking to a target running directly at you) - this was executed brilliantly, and for me, our skills this pre-season are so far advanced to anything I have seen over the last few pre-seasons.
  • Nas's kicking is elite. He caresses his kicks and I don't think he missed a target today. He's also got a lot of poise, taking an extra second or two to weigh up the options in front of him. He seems far more confident in himself.
  • Riley Bonner, is similar in many ways to Nas, with his elite kicking skills. He's had an excellent pre-season and for me has been one of the stand outs.
  • There was drill which involved bringing the ball into the forward line from the half way mark. A couple of short kicks to either a wide target or a more direct short target, before a long kick to the top of the square. If the ball was spoilt, the defenders then had to work the ball back to the centre of the ground. To me it looks like we still have some work to do with our forward entries, but we look good moving the ball out of the backline. It helps when you have elite kickers like Nas, Sinclair & Bonner kicking the ball out.
  • Hugo Garcia doesn't mind throwing his body on the line. Very courageous and he's a really good size for an 18 yo. Stood next to him on the boundary and I was surprised how built (and tall) he is.
  • Full ground match sim with AFL umpires (Leigh Fischer being one of them). Liam Henry, Sinclair, Wilkes & Tim Membrey were the standouts. At one point, Liam Henry received the ball, broke away from the pack and nailed a kick onto Tim Membrey's chest. It was a thing of beauty. RTB stood on the middle of the wing watching the match sim. I was watching RTB, and it looked to me like he had one eye on where the ball was and the other eye further up the ground looking at movement & positioning of those further up the ground. He was pretty vocal again today.
  • Of our new recruits, Lance Collard did some absolutely spectacular things today. At one point he nearly took an absolute speccy over Jimmy Webster, and then one minute later he was in the back line spoiling Matthew Allison. He leapt up to spoil Allison, landed on his feet, pivoted and then took off - it was a thing of beauty. This kid has so many tricks. He's going to be a handful for opposition defenders and a joy to watch for saints fans. He'll need a bit of time, but he has star written all over him.
  • Isaac Keeler drops far too many marks. He lacks confidence in his ability. There were a few times today where he was one out with a much shorter opponent and had a sit on them, but somehow managed to drop the mark or allow his opponent to spoil. He lacks physicality in the contest. He's not particularly strong in the air but for a guy his size, he has some wheels. It will be fun to watch him develop at Sandy for another year. I can't see him playing ruck - he just lacks physicality at this stage of his career.
  • Stocker is another one who stood out. He was really good defensively particularly against much taller opponents. He's also been really impressive all pre-season.
  • I must admit, I haven't noticed Paddy Dow all that much. He's there and he does some ok stuff but based on what i've seen of pre-season, I can't see a spot for him in round 1. Steele, Crouch, Seb, Clarke, Owens & Windy are all ahead of him in my opinion.
 
Training Report Friday 19th January

  • Crouch, Caminiti, Van Ess, Jones & Hayes in the rehab group.
  • Pou & Howard both went for a swim at the DFC.
  • No Butler. Also, I didn't notice Sharman.
  • Max & Marshall were called out to the middle where Marshall gave Max a good work out on his shoulder. Max got through easily and was involved in the general warm up with the group. He then joined the rehab group for a short time during match sim, but joined back in main training towards the end.
  • Crouch & Jones will be joining main training next week
  • Owens: I know a lot has been said about him, but it's hard not to take your eyes off him. He has presence. He makes some of our veterans look tiny. He is huge - particularly his thighs which are the size of tree trunks.
  • Liam Henry once again impressive. Very noticeable and his skills are actually really good. I know there was a question mark over his kicking but from what i have seen this pre-season, his skills have been excellent. He seems like he is enjoying being a saint and is very popular amongst the group. He and Hill work really well together and share similar attributes.
  • There was one kicking drill (kicking to a target running directly at you) - this was executed brilliantly, and for me, our skills this pre-season are so far advanced to anything I have seen over the last few pre-seasons.
  • Nas's kicking is elite. He caresses his kicks and I don't think he missed a target today. He's also got a lot of poise, taking an extra second or two to weigh up the options in front of him. He seems far more confident in himself.
  • Riley Bonner, is similar in many ways to Nas, with his elite kicking skills. He's had an excellent pre-season and for me has been one of the stand outs.
  • There was drill which involved bringing the ball into the forward line from the half way mark. A couple of short kicks to either a wide target or a more direct short target, before a long kick to the top of the square. If the ball was spoilt, the defenders then had to work the ball back to the centre of the ground. To me it looks like we still have some work to do with our forward entries, but we look good moving the ball out of the backline. It helps when you have elite kickers like Nas, Sinclair & Bonner kicking the ball out.
  • Hugo Garcia doesn't mind throwing his body on the line. Very courageous and he's a really good size for an 18 yo. Stood next to him on the boundary and I was surprised how built (and tall) he is.
  • Full ground match sim with AFL umpires (Leigh Fischer being one of them). Liam Henry, Sinclair, Wilkes & Tim Membrey were the standouts. At one point, Liam Henry received the ball, broke away from the pack and nailed a kick onto Tim Membrey's chest. It was a thing of beauty. RTB stood on the middle of the wing watching the match sim. I was watching RTB, and it looked to me like he had one eye on where the ball was and the other eye further up the ground looking at movement & positioning of those further up the ground. He was pretty vocal again today.
  • Of our new recruits, Lance Collard did some absolutely spectacular things today. At one point he nearly took an absolute speccy over Jimmy Webster, and then one minute later he was in the back line spoiling Matthew Allison. He leapt up to spoil Allison, landed on his feet, pivoted and then took off - it was a thing of beauty. This kid has so many tricks. He's going to be a handful for opposition defenders and a joy to watch for saints fans. He'll need a bit of time, but he has star written all over him.
  • Isaac Keeler drops far too many marks. He lacks confidence in his ability. There were a few times today where he was one out with a much shorter opponent and had a sit on them, but somehow managed to drop the mark or allow his opponent to spoil. He lacks physicality in the contest. He's not particularly strong in the air but for a guy his size, he has some wheels. It will be fun to watch him develop at Sandy for another year. I can't see him playing ruck - he just lacks physicality at this stage of his career.
  • Stocker is another one who stood out. He was really good defensively particularly against much taller opponents. He's also been really impressive all pre-season.
  • I must admit, I haven't noticed Paddy Dow all that much. He's there and he does some ok stuff but based on what i've seen of pre-season, I can't see a spot for him in round 1. Steele, Crouch, Seb, Clarke, Owens & Windy are all ahead of him in my opinion.
Butler on the bike in the gym.
 
Today's session sainters!



F**n grouse video, very nice.

Ronnie Byrnes prominent throughout. A little bit of the forgotten man.

Hope he works well in tandem with Hill, Henry etc and uses his wheels. Has great pace and endurance, we all know that.

Big year for young Ronnie I'm hoping.
 
F**n grouse video, very nice.

Ronnie Byrnes prominent throughout. A little bit of the forgotten man.

Hope he works well in tandem with Hill, Henry etc and uses his wheels. Has great pace and endurance, we all know that.

Big year for young Ronnie I'm hoping.
Byrnes was looking great at the start of last year before dropping off, hopefully he can build on some of that early form.

I feel like our future wingers are going to be NAS and Wilson, but they both still have to prove themselves (NAS on the wing at least), but for the time being, there's a spot alongside Wood that's up for grabs.

Byrnes has a lot of tools, it's just a shame he doesn't have a bit more size to him. Hopefully he can have a big year and at least generate some trade value.
 
Training Report Friday 19th January

  • Crouch, Caminiti, Van Ess, Jones & Hayes in the rehab group.
  • Pou & Howard both went for a swim at the DFC.
  • No Butler. Also, I didn't notice Sharman.
  • Max & Marshall were called out to the middle where Marshall gave Max a good work out on his shoulder. Max got through easily and was involved in the general warm up with the group. He then joined the rehab group for a short time during match sim, but joined back in main training towards the end.
  • Crouch & Jones will be joining main training next week
  • Owens: I know a lot has been said about him, but it's hard not to take your eyes off him. He has presence. He makes some of our veterans look tiny. He is huge - particularly his thighs which are the size of tree trunks.
  • Liam Henry once again impressive. Very noticeable and his skills are actually really good. I know there was a question mark over his kicking but from what i have seen this pre-season, his skills have been excellent. He seems like he is enjoying being a saint and is very popular amongst the group. He and Hill work really well together and share similar attributes.
  • There was one kicking drill (kicking to a target running directly at you) - this was executed brilliantly, and for me, our skills this pre-season are so far advanced to anything I have seen over the last few pre-seasons.
  • Nas's kicking is elite. He caresses his kicks and I don't think he missed a target today. He's also got a lot of poise, taking an extra second or two to weigh up the options in front of him. He seems far more confident in himself.
  • Riley Bonner, is similar in many ways to Nas, with his elite kicking skills. He's had an excellent pre-season and for me has been one of the stand outs.
  • There was drill which involved bringing the ball into the forward line from the half way mark. A couple of short kicks to either a wide target or a more direct short target, before a long kick to the top of the square. If the ball was spoilt, the defenders then had to work the ball back to the centre of the ground. To me it looks like we still have some work to do with our forward entries, but we look good moving the ball out of the backline. It helps when you have elite kickers like Nas, Sinclair & Bonner kicking the ball out.
  • Hugo Garcia doesn't mind throwing his body on the line. Very courageous and he's a really good size for an 18 yo. Stood next to him on the boundary and I was surprised how built (and tall) he is.
  • Full ground match sim with AFL umpires (Leigh Fischer being one of them). Liam Henry, Sinclair, Wilkes & Tim Membrey were the standouts. At one point, Liam Henry received the ball, broke away from the pack and nailed a kick onto Tim Membrey's chest. It was a thing of beauty. RTB stood on the middle of the wing watching the match sim. I was watching RTB, and it looked to me like he had one eye on where the ball was and the other eye further up the ground looking at movement & positioning of those further up the ground. He was pretty vocal again today.
  • Of our new recruits, Lance Collard did some absolutely spectacular things today. At one point he nearly took an absolute speccy over Jimmy Webster, and then one minute later he was in the back line spoiling Matthew Allison. He leapt up to spoil Allison, landed on his feet, pivoted and then took off - it was a thing of beauty. This kid has so many tricks. He's going to be a handful for opposition defenders and a joy to watch for saints fans. He'll need a bit of time, but he has star written all over him.
  • Isaac Keeler drops far too many marks. He lacks confidence in his ability. There were a few times today where he was one out with a much shorter opponent and had a sit on them, but somehow managed to drop the mark or allow his opponent to spoil. He lacks physicality in the contest. He's not particularly strong in the air but for a guy his size, he has some wheels. It will be fun to watch him develop at Sandy for another year. I can't see him playing ruck - he just lacks physicality at this stage of his career.
  • Stocker is another one who stood out. He was really good defensively particularly against much taller opponents. He's also been really impressive all pre-season.
  • I must admit, I haven't noticed Paddy Dow all that much. He's there and he does some ok stuff but based on what i've seen of pre-season, I can't see a spot for him in round 1. Steele, Crouch, Seb, Clarke, Owens & Windy are all ahead of him in my opinion.
Great report & far more detailed than mine!

The only thing I would add re Keeler is that he is a slow decision maker with ball in hand - just struggles to identify the correct outlet quickly - think Members and add 2 seconds!
 
F**n grouse video, very nice.

Ronnie Byrnes prominent throughout. A little bit of the forgotten man.

Hope he works well in tandem with Hill, Henry etc and uses his wheels. Has great pace and endurance, we all know that.

Big year for young Ronnie I'm hoping.
Byrnes had an underrated year. He's no star but coming along nicely.
 
Byrnes was looking great at the start of last year before dropping off, hopefully he can build on some of that early form.

I feel like our future wingers are going to be NAS and Wilson, but they both still have to prove themselves (NAS on the wing at least), but for the time being, there's a spot alongside Wood that's up for grabs.

Byrnes has a lot of tools, it's just a shame he doesn't have a bit more size to him. Hopefully he can have a big year and at least generate some trade value.
Doubt NAS will be a winger - found his spot at half back due to Enright‘S smart thinking & is set up now physically, confidence & experience wise to completely dominate that position - & don’t forget RTB always has a defence first mantra.

Though I’d be more confident Sincs has more on ball time if they can possibly manage it - mature body, fit and elite user.
 
Doubt NAS will be a winger - found his spot at half back due to Enright‘S smart thinking & is set up now physically, confidence & experience wise to completely dominate that position - & don’t forget RTB always has a defence first mantra.

Though I’d be more confident Sincs has more on ball time if they can possibly manage it - mature body, fit and elite user.

He was drafted as a winger.
HBF is a good place to start a young player, but to me he'll soon be better on the wing than Hill is.
 

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