Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

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Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  Rory Sloane

  Age

  34

  Ht

  183cm

  Wt

  87kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  23.7

  5star

  K

  11.7

  4star

  HB

  11.9

  5star

  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  6.6

  5star

  CL

  5.7

  5star

  D

  15.3

  4star

  K

  7.3

  3star

  HB

  8.0

  4star

  M

  1.3

  1star

  T

  3.3

  4star

  CL

  4.2

  5star

  D

  22.2

  5star

  K

  8.6

  4star

  HB

  13.6

  5star

  M

  3.2

  4star

  T

  6.0

  5star

  CL

  4.6

  5star

  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  27

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  18.4

  5star

  M

  3.2

  3star

  T

  6.3

  5star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  25.1

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  K

  11.1

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  HB

  14.0

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  M

  3.6

  4star

  T

  5.6

  5star

  CL

  5.9

  5star

  D

  19.2

  5star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  14.6

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  4.4

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  Darcy Fogarty

  Age

  25

  Ht

  194cm

  Wt

  100kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  8.5

  2star

  K

  5.7

  2star

  HB

  2.8

  2star

  M

  3.7

  4star

  T

  1.7

  4star

  G

  1.2

  4star

  D

  6.3

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.3

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.3

  3star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  8.0

  2star

  K

  5.4

  2star

  HB

  2.6

  3star

  M

  3.4

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  T

  2.6

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Crouch#44]

Their midfield will be insane in a few years if they pick him.... LDU, Wardlaw, McKercher, Sheezel etc then add in Draper or another gun this year....>. WOwee.

Surely they go best KPP though given Darling is surely just depth at this point,

In 2 years time North could have the best midfield in the competition. I think they will be able to add KPP without too many issues.

I think North are rebuilding well as drafting midfielders is less risk, unlike the crows who draft either KPP or small forwards with our top picks and looks likely to be a potential 50% strike rate.

7 years into a rebuild and we have IMO only one drafted midfielder that may come close to the quality of McKercher, Sheezel or Wardlaw.

We should of rebuilt the engine first.

 

[Crows I Am]

I've heard North Melbourne are giving Draper alot of attention.

It seems like he could go earlier than pick 4

Just leaves one of the other gun mids for us then if he is taken before our pick.

 

[jenny61_99]

I understand this but it smells a bit like '' you owe me '' - well not really . I'm not a fan of employing someone just because they ''spent half their life here' I mean I see this as our biggest weakness that we cultivate this culture of tenure

My concern is we will pay him a motza to decide if he wants to coach or not. I cant see him take $80k to be someone who moves the cones and encourages players on game day.

If he really wants to coach then good luck but go balls in and do the required courses and find a club willing to take you on

I’m not saying we should hire him. Simply saying he loves it here, loves the club, why wouldn’t he see if there’s an opportunity here?

 

[Mutineer]

He should replace Crouch, who we should have traded. We’ve got stacks of mids around that mediocre range. Laird, Crouch, Berry, Dowling, Taylor, Schoenberg, Pedlar, Edwards, Keays. Plus talent that potentially needs a crack to develop in there like Curtin, Rachele and pick 4. We don’t need to hang onto 30 year old mids that regularly get beaten for impact by their direct opponents. We need to develop our own gun rotations, so minutes need to go to the guys that might be part of one. If it results in losing a couple of extra games in 2025, so be it. We’re a long way off competing with Brisbane et al deep in September anyway.

Moved on from Rory Sloane have you?

Matty Crouch now in your sights...

 

[Crow-eater]

I've heard North Melbourne are giving Draper alot of attention.

It seems like he could go earlier than pick 4

Hopefully makes it easier to pry him out in 3 years. Would be harder to get him out of West Coast.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

In 2 years time North could have the best midfield in the competition. I think they will be able to add KPP without too many issues.

I think North are rebuilding well as drafting midfielders is less risk, unlike the crows who draft either KPP or small forwards with our top picks and looks likely to be a potential 50% strike rate.

7 years into a rebuild and we have IMO only one drafted midfielder that may come close to the quality of McKercher, Sheezel or Wardlaw.

We should of rebuilt the engine first.

NO! ....and then more NO!

Adding a KPP is easy is it ? .....how many years, and how many players did we draft / trade as KPF's, when we had Roo, Goodwin and Co in our midfield

It's the reverse, get the longer developing KPP first, like HAW did .....there are many more MIDS in each Draft

NORTH have taken the "build midfield first" approach .....and are now struggling for KPP
SYD has an excellent Midfield, but had no FWD line to capitalise in the GF

Don't forget ALL THE COMPENSATION picks North have received ......I've lost count of all the AFL gifting .....and where are they still ?

 

[StickerMan]

Moved on from Rory Sloane have you?

Matty Crouch now in your sights...

For me, Crouch still belongs in the best 22 as our inside mid, however Laird should be playing SANFL.

Surround Crouch with some speed and good ball users and his game will look elite. Laird on the other hand, will ignore the players around him to get his 20 hack kicks a week.

Also, I think we move on from Rory. From the outside, his leadership was not fantastic and seemed to be part of the problem with where the Club is currently.

 

[bettingonbetts]

So it seems as if everyone IS keen on Draper now? I’ve been keen all season but it appeared that others wanted FOS or Lalor?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I’m not saying we should hire him. Simply saying he loves it here, loves the club, why wouldn’t he see if there’s an opportunity here?

As long as Sloane is not using the Club as an interim job, until he decides what his true passion is .....that's my fear with all ex footballers

 

[WaynesWorld19]

So it seems as if everyone IS keen on Draper now? I’ve been keen all season but it appeared that others wanted FOS or Lalor?

IMO, any of those 3 will be very good players ....it's very even in those top 5-6 players

I also believe our pick should be a bit more considered with our Midfield mix in mind ....if Curtin is to play Mid, do we have a greater need for the zip of Draper ?

 

[Mutineer]

So it seems as if everyone IS keen on Draper now? I’ve been keen all season but it appeared that others wanted FOS or Lalor?

Everyone?
I would of thought a lot have always rated Draper in their top 3 or 4 prospects for us just not at Numero Uno.

Lalor is still top of my shopping list btw.

 

[bettingonbetts]

Everyone?
I would of thought a lot have always rated Draper in their top 3 or 4 prospects for us just not at Numero Uno.

Lalor is still top of my shopping list btw.

Sorry I meant everyone in terms of crows fans on this board

 

[Shifty Crow]

I’m not saying we should hire him. Simply saying he loves it here, loves the club, why wouldn’t he see if there’s an opportunity here?

If Rory wants to give coaching a red hot crack as his next football pathway, I think it’s in his best interest to experience a new environment and playing group


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[El Doederino]

NO! ....and then more NO!

Adding a KPP is easy is it ? .....how many years, and how many players did we draft / trade as KPF's, when we had Roo, Goodwin and Co in our midfield

It's the reverse, get the longer developing KPP first, like HAW did .....there are many more MIDS in each Draft

NORTH have taken the "build midfield first" approach .....and are now struggling for KPP
SYD has an excellent Midfield, but had no FWD line to capitalise in the GF

Don't forget ALL THE COMPENSATION picks North have received ......I've lost count of all the AFL gifting .....and where are they still ?

You mean our premiership midfield?

 

[FR0GGY]

Sorry I meant everyone in terms of crows fans on this board

Very hard to get a consensus on anything here especially a player

 

[Slime Roy]

Geelong have a history of targeting players with injury or off field issues - get them at a bargain (or cheaper) price and the. Back themselves in to fix the issue. Shaun Higgins and Stengle two of the best examples


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Which in itself is amazing, with small towns reputations for drinking & drug use.

 

[George Kramer]

As long as Sloane is not using the Club as an interim job, until he decides what his true passion is .....that's my fear with all ex footballers

Any examples?

 

[Trigger13]

So it seems as if everyone IS keen on Draper now? I’ve been keen all season but it appeared that others wanted FOS or Lalor?

Watch us take Smilie because he’s ‘ready to go’ and the club needs results yesterday. Who needs speed anyway .

Edit: Im not that keen on Draper either. Lalor for me

 

[Redline]

We still have the Luko money, we should be able to offer Peatling a deal that gets him out of GWS and stumps any other clubs offer


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Money won't be the problem, it's the draft Capital.

 

[Hodgy]

NO! ....and then more NO!

Adding a KPP is easy is it ? .....how many years, and how many players did we draft / trade as KPF's, when we had Roo, Goodwin and Co in our midfield

It's the reverse, get the longer developing KPP first, like HAW did .....there are many more MIDS in each Draft

NORTH have taken the "build midfield first" approach .....and are now struggling for KPP
SYD has an excellent Midfield, but had no FWD line to capitalise in the GF

Don't forget ALL THE COMPENSATION picks North have received ......I've lost count of all the AFL gifting .....and where are they still ?

Melbourne drafted their midfield then traded in May and Lever and won a flag.
Geelong traded in Jeremy Cameron, Brisbane traded in Daniher and Sydney and West Coast of 15 years ago traded in Kennedy, Barry Hall and Franklin.

All the most successful teams are built around building the engine room through the draft as a priority.

NM have been guilty of not getting the balance right, and using the 3 million charity picks they’ve been given purely on midfield. When you have that many, sure, address all areas of your list, but Adelaide has not used a high pick on the midfield for 10 years and it has left us in this mess we have now.

 

[119others]

I've heard North Melbourne are giving Draper alot of attention.

It seems like he could go earlier than pick 4

if they go that way its just a crazy list build with virtually every top 5 player taken in recent years is a small (mid or flanker). surely after seeing Swans and Powers dud forwards and defensive talls teams realise you need a balance of talent all over the ground - admittedly mids are the most important - but unlikely to win big finals without good quality KPP

perhaps they are angling to trade pick 2 to us and seeing what we would give for that...

interesting how it plays out but would rather Draper to Kangas than Weagles. He would likely be home within 5-6 years

 

[Scorpus]

 

[latinoheat]

So it seems as if everyone IS keen on Draper now? I’ve been keen all season but it appeared that others wanted FOS or Lalor?

No, I believe the consensus is that any one of those 3 would be the dream

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Melbourne drafted their midfield then traded in May and Lever and won a flag.
Geelong traded in Jeremy Cameron, Brisbane traded in Daniher and Sydney and West Coast of 15 years ago traded in Kennedy, Barry Hall and Franklin.

All the most successful teams are built around building the engine room through the draft as a priority.

NM have been guilty of not getting the balance right, and using the 3 million charity picks they’ve been given purely on midfield. When you have that many, sure, address all areas of your list, but Adelaide has not used a high pick on the midfield for 10 years and it has left us in this mess we have now.

How are MELB going the last few years .....great midfield, struggling for KPF 's

They've tried Schache, Brown, the "leach" McDonald .....the lack of KPF has cost MELB at least another Flag

Re ADEL ....this was my issue with the Rachele draft choice .....Pick #6 on a small Fwd ? .....do I assume from your comment, you don't consider Rachele and Curtin as future Mids ?

 

[119others]

In 2 years time North could have the best midfield in the competition. I think they will be able to add KPP without too many issues.

I think North are rebuilding well as drafting midfielders is less risk, unlike the crows who draft either KPP or small forwards with our top picks and looks likely to be a potential 50% strike rate.

7 years into a rebuild and we have IMO only one drafted midfielder that may come close to the quality of McKercher, Sheezel or Wardlaw.

We should of rebuilt the engine first.

list builds covers BOTH drafting and trading (see Cats, Lions). It doesnt matter if we drafted one. Its how many we brought in (inc trades) and clearly that covers Rankine and Dawson also. Plus quite possibly Curtin, Rachele and this years pick 4.

ps we all know its not 7 years mate...