Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 2

[Scorpus]

Spoiler: Older Rumors

I've deleted confirmed information

Rumors from September 30

• FiveAA claims we are after Scott Borlace, current Head of Development at Brisbane (link)
• Claims of Rory Sloane
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  heading to Melbourne Demons as a development coach, but maybe not before asking for a job at the Crows first?
• Inside Trading suggests we are interested in Gold Coast's pick 12 (link)
• Inside Trading also suggests Clayton Oliver
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  is possibly back on the trade table, but doesn't link him to any specific clubs

Rumors from October 1

• We have offered Darcy Fogarty
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  a five year contract extension early ahead of free agency (link)
• We are attempting to lure Graham Wright to our football department (link)

Rumors from October 2-3

• Graham Wright, who we are chasing as a head of football, is also being chased by Carlton for a CEO position (link)

Rumors from October 4-5

• Gettable claiming pick 25 for Neal-Bullen and a future 2nd for Peatling (link)

Rumors from October 6

• Tom Morris claims we are open to splitting pick 4 (link)

Rumor summary October 8

• Jon Ralph claims we are not prepared to use a future 2nd on Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 9

• Graham Wright will not join Adelaide, instead taking up the Carlton CEO role (link)
• Tom Morris claims the Peatling trade will involve future 2nd and 3rd round picks, and we have offered him a four year deal at about $600k per season (link)
• Riley Beveridge claims we asked GWS if they were interested in one of our players in the Peatling trade (link)

Rumor summary October 10

• Collingwood are interested in Justin Reid as their new head of football (link)
• GWS want our future 2nd and pick 46 for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 11

• Poster claims we are attempting to lure Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera, maybe in 2025 (link)
• Tom Morris claims we will do the Peatling deal for pick 46 and a future 2nd provided there are other late pick swaps (link)

Rumor summary October 13

• Tom Morris suggests we have offered a trade involving a swap of future 2nds for Peatling (link)

Rumor summary October 15

• After West Coast got absolutely rogered, Cal Twomey claims we have offered either two future 3rds for Peatling, or a swap of 2nds and a future 3rd (link)
• We have interest in Sam Davidson from Richmond VFL (link)
• Mitch Cleary claims some GWS players are facing suspensions from the AFL due to behaviour at an end of season event (link)
• Brett Montgomery is staying at GWS, meaning we were unsuccessful at luring him (link)

Rumor summary October 16

• Stalemate on the Peatling trade as of 4pm, with us threatening to send him to the PSD (link)

 

[Danger in Texas]

Gettable guys seem to think it’ll be 25 for ANB and a F2 for Peatling

 

[1990crow]

North probably aren’t giving 2 directly up for Houston if they manage to convince him to come. Split 2 into 7 and 8. Send one of those and a F2 to port for Houston

Fair enough. I don't think Houstan wants to go to North though

 

[119others]

Fair enough, once out of 200 odd games isn’t a great return though. How many times did he shank them when he could have iced a game?

mate not sure you are responding to the right person here. I was clarifying to MarcusP2 about Danihers winning goals that he said IIRC

I am not arguing that Daniher didnt shank lots of shots. Fog is so much better kick for goal. Not sure anyone could argue differently

 

[Vader]

Difference is the Club GC , clearly don’t want him
With Port, both parties have clearly said they can resume normal arrangements

Neither is a "required player", given that both clubs are forcing them out. Their motivations are different - GC want Luko out for the list space and salary cap relief, Port want Houston out for the draft/trade collateral. At the end of the day though, both clubs are forcing the players out.

 

[1990crow]

Gettable guys seem to think it’ll be 25 for ANB and a F2 for Peatling

The way the AFL hands out picks like candy 25 will end up being 30 odd anyway I guess.

 

[daniel_4tw]

FA compensation is the stupidest thing.

The benefit of losing a FA is cap space, so you can get another FA.

This inventing picks is ****ing ridiculous. Every team that finished above St Kilda get disadvantaged because St Kilda and Hawks saw player movement. It’s nonsense.

You have clubs trading FAs for junk picks to protect their precious imaginary picks the AFL create.

Throw in the formula being secret so AFL can manipulate the **** out of it to fit their narrative.

Thank **** we finished lower than Saints.

 

[Crow till I die]

The way the AFL hands out picks like candy 25 will end up being 30 odd anyway I guess.

I'd live with that. As I was thinking 25 for Peatling and F2 for ANB being the mark with 42 being the hopeful one for ANB as a first offer.

 

[The Karma Bus]

Talking on trade radio like it's known fact that pick 25 is going for ANB.
Adelaide.. c'mon..

 

[WaynesWorld19]

but Wayne how many players that want to move home dont historically end up at their preferred club? I am sure there are some but I wouldnt have thought many.

Clearly there was the Stevens situations with Power/Pies/Blues 20 ish years ago but everyone lost there - except Blues

let’s see how it plays out here …. I’m backing Port’s position

 

[Draft Bored]

Pick 8 for battle is just ridiculous. I honestly thing band 1 compensation needs to start as end of first round at the most.

Can you imagine if we'd just finished behind St Kilda which was looking likely a few weeks out?!

 

[Vader]

12 is more desirable

Carlton don't have pick #12 any more. It's now #13, pushed out by the Battle compo.

 

[Mutineer]

Hey I agree, it’s why key forwards are massively over rated. You need to kick on average 16 goals a game to win and if your star key forward is only contributing 2 of those then I can’t see why we pay so much for them. Very different 20 years ago when you could count on 4 or 5 from your Locketts or Dunstalls.

Brisbane won the GF by 10 goals and Joe only kicked 2, don’t think it’s going to hurt them much. Now fast and accurate mid forwards like Kai Lohman, who kick goals and feed those key forwards, that is where to invest your assets in modern list management.

Think you're under estimating Daniher's ability big time to do better than most chop out rucks in the AFL. He's a bloody good ruck when needed.

 

[Vader]

North probably aren’t giving 2 directly up for Houston if they manage to convince him to come. Split 2 into 7 and 8. Send one of those and a F2 to port for Houston

... assuming they can talk Houston into going to that suckhole club. Good luck with that!

 

[1990crow]

I'd live with that. As I was thinking 25 for Peatling and F2 for ANB being the mark with 42 being the hopeful one for ANB as a first offer.

Our drafting records for second rounders is pretty crap for that 20-30 range.
Worrell the standout and too early on 2023.

2018 - Hamill
2019 - Schoenberg, Worrell
2020 - Berry
2021 -
2022 -
2023 - Edwards, Ryan

 

[The Karma Bus]

FA compensation is the stupidest thing.

The benefit of losing a FA is cap space, so you can get another FA.

This inventing picks is ****ing ridiculous. Every team that finished above St Kilda get disadvantaged because St Kilda and Hawks saw player movement. It’s nonsense.

You have clubs trading FAs for junk picks to protect their precious imaginary picks the AFL create.

Throw in the formula being secret so AFL can manipulate the **** out of it to fit their narrative.

Thank **** we finished lower than Saints.

I don't mind clubs getting something or the big Vic clubs get bigger.

They need to adjust the categories so you don't get such stupid compo.
End of 1st round is the starting point.

 

[croweater 41]

Fair enough. I don't think Houstan wants to go to North though

I wouldn’t either but just going by reports they are an option not sure how much of an option.

 

[1990crow]

Carlton don't have pick #12 any more. It's now #13, pushed out by the Battle compo.

Apologies I mean GCs pick.
I thought Carltons pick 11 gets pushed to 12, then GCs 12 gets pushed to 13.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

 

[Mutineer]

Our drafting records for second rounders is pretty crap for that 20-30 range.
Worrell the standout and too early on 2023.

2018 - Hamill
2019 - Schoenberg, Worrell
2020 - Berry
2021 -
2022 -
2023 - Edwards, Ryan

Edwards and Ryan were both 1st rounders

 

[croweater 41]

... assuming they can talk Houston into going to that suckhole club. Good luck with that!

Tips them over the edge to 15th

 

[119others]

North probably aren’t giving 2 directly up for Houston if they manage to convince him to come. Split 2 into 7 and 8. Send one of those and a F2 to port for Houston

normally would work but from all accounts this years top 10 doesnt have the normal drop off after an elite initial 3-5 players. its all very even so Saints unlikely to do that deal

 

[Vader]

Apologies I mean GCs pick.
I thought Carltons pick 11 gets pushed to 12, then GCs 12 gets pushed to 13.

You might be right there. I've lost track of who has what pick.

Regardless, what was 11 is now 12, what was 12 is now 13.

 

[1990crow]

Lol. $$$$$

 

[1990crow]

Edwards and Ryan were both 1st rounders

The definition is kind of irrelevant.
Pick 20 to 30 range.

 

[Mutineer]

LOL
Couldn't help but bringing in his Powa reference.