Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 3

[Mostyn]

Safer to assume that the Hun just got it wrong.

Why?

When Rob re-signed, he was probably on $250k, and going to $600k made him one of our highest paid players. I don't know why we assume it's that much more than that - every time a contract is mentioned on here people add $50k to it.

Happy if anyone has anything that suggest otherwise, but I haven't seen it.

 

[Grenville]

He wasn't listed in the Herald Suns top 100 salaries in the AFL, and that started at $600k. That's why I used that number.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-rich-100-the-highestpaid-players-in-football/news-story/1383e29f77804d55f06b75a19f1b17cd?amp

Happy if anyone has a link that gives a number but I couldn't find one when I googled

Seems reasonable. I think the data in those articles tends to be based on just the current year though, so he may have been front loaded and still average out higher.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Why?

When Rob re-signed, he was probably on $250k, and going to $600k made him one of our highest paid players. I don't know why we assume it's that much more than that - every time a contract is mentioned on here people add $50k to it.

Happy if anyone has anything that suggest otherwise, but I haven't seen it.

ROB has been on around $700K ish pa, but gather was front loaded as he signed when we had oodles of cap space.

 

[Mostyn]

ROB has been on around $700K ish pa, but gather was front loaded as he signed when we had oodles of cap space.

That might be right - I just couldn't find anything when I searched.

 

[Mostyn]

ROB has been on around $700K ish pa, but gather was front loaded as he signed when we had oodles of cap space.

In 2023, the Herald Sun had him in the $575k+ band, and in 2024 they didn't list him.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-rich-100-who-are-the-highest-paid-players-in-football/news-story/3d7ddb5f52b827be7209a7ea03daf5a1

I think some of this board's guesses might be too high.

 

[Stephen2]

Is this ROB's kicking action??

Sorry, maybe not, but we're talking about rucks, I got confused

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

In 2023, the Herald Sun had him in the $575k+ band, and in 2024 they didn't list him.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-rich-100-who-are-the-highest-paid-players-in-football/news-story/3d7ddb5f52b827be7209a7ea03daf5a1

I think some of this board's guesses might be too high.

ROB was amongst our top few earners when he re-signed a few years back.

Not now though.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

Twomey put it out there - although he could also have been misled the same way

He does usually have a good feel for Essendon players though

“Absolutely no doubt”: Crows set to pursue Dons ruckman Draper next off-season

“Adelaide will come hard for Sam Draper, I've got absolutely no doubt about that.”

www.sen.com.au

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If Twomey flew the kite theirs a fair chance it was launched by a player agent.
I don’t think he gets misled too often by outside talk and goes to air with it.

 

[119others]

You've got rocks in your head if you think ROB is only on $600K.

I would have thought the reported 600k at the time he signed a long term contract was a good starting base. From there with salary cap increases perhaps it’s more like 650k now. Can’t see it possibly being over 700k. Wasn’t listed in the top 100 paid players in the Herald Sun was he? Which when you look at the specifics seems to get it pretty right based on their intel.

What do you think he is on in 2025 Vader?

 

[119others]

ROB was amongst our top few earners when he re-signed a few years back.

Not now though.

I agree. Laird, Dawson and Rankine all would be on more, and suggest TT and Fog extensions are considerably more also than ROB.

 

[Golumless]

Why?

When Rob re-signed, he was probably on $250k, and going to $600k made him one of our highest paid players. I don't know why we assume it's that much more than that - every time a contract is mentioned on here people add $50k to it.

Happy if anyone has anything that suggest otherwise, but I haven't seen it.

Equally, it's quite likely we front-loaded it, seeing how we would have been struggling to get to the cap floor in the first couple of years of the deal (probably not as much now).

 

[Scorpus]

In 2023, the Herald Sun had him in the $575k+ band, and in 2024 they didn't list him.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-rich-100-who-are-the-highest-paid-players-in-football/news-story/3d7ddb5f52b827be7209a7ea03daf5a1

I think some of this board's guesses might be too high.

Are these articles based on facts?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

ROB has been on around $700K ish pa, but gather was front loaded as he signed when we had oodles of cap space.

The talent to pay ratio on this one is nearly as ugly as ROB.

 

[Vader]

I would have thought the reported 600k at the time he signed a long term contract was a good starting base. From there with salary cap increases perhaps it’s more like 650k now. Can’t see it possibly being over 700k. Wasn’t listed in the top 100 paid players in the Herald Sun was he? Which when you look at the specifics seems to get it pretty right based on their intel.

What do you think he is on in 2025 Vader?

I would expect his current contract averages out around $750K - though how it's distributed across the years (e.g. front loading) is anyone's guess.

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Interesting to see the Rat only signed at Port for one year despite already having that one year to play out at Gold Coast. Shame we couldn’t do similar with Chris Burgess.

 

[Mostyn]

Are these articles based on facts?

Is the conjection on here based on facts?

Until there is a formal process of salaries being declared, I think we have to go with media coverage.

We can't really pick and choose when we decide to believe it.

 

[Mostyn]

I would expect his current contract averages out around $750K - though how it's distributed across the years (e.g. front loading) is anyone's guess.

So, you just don't believe the media reports on the contract he signed after playing 30 odd games?

That seems pretty hypocritical - you put more stock in your feelings than you do any reporting.

 

[Cromulant]

So, you just don't believe the media reports on the contract he signed after playing 30 odd games?

That seems pretty hypocritical - you put more stock in your feelings than you do any reporting.

If you put a lot of stock in media reporting thats on you.

 

[Mostyn]

If you put a lot of stock in media reporting thats on you.

Fair enough.

I think there are some reporters who are pretty reliable. Not enough, maybe.

I normally assume there's a bit of mayo on contracts in the media, because they're probably being leaked by managers. But normally they come from an actual source.

I think, after playing 30 odd games, if ROB's manager had gotten him a $750k contract then that would be leaked everywhere. It's a great way to get more clients, as he immediately would have been one of the highest paid rucks and players at the Crows.

$600k was probably triple what he was being paid as a rookie ruck, so that just feels like a more likely deal.

But whatever - we're all just guessing.

 

[Scorpus]

Is the conjection on here based on facts?

Until there is a formal process of salaries being declared, I think we have to go with media coverage.

We can't really pick and choose when we decide to believe it.

I don't think any of it is based on facts. Max Gawn for example categorically denied he was on the amount reported in those articles.

All we know is O'Brien signed a four year contract just a few months after winning the B&F, at a time we had a lot of salary cap space.

The average AFL salary when his contract began was $406k and that increased to $441k in 2023. We also know that in 2022-2023, clubs had on average 5-6 players earning over $700k and 2-3 earning between $600k and $700k.

I think it's unrealistic that O'Brien was only paid about 30% more than the average wage given what we know.

 

[Vader]

So, you just don't believe the media reports on the contract he signed after playing 30 odd games?

That seems pretty hypocritical - you put more stock in your feelings than you do any reporting.

Given the accuracy of media reporting when it comes to player salaries, I see no reason not to.

In the absence of financial reporting by the AFL, all we have is speculation - be it speculation by the media (and it really is little more than that), or speculation by posters on BF (including me). It's all just speculation.

ROB last signed on in March 2021. At that time he'd played around 40 games (37 prior to the start of the 2021 season, plus any 2021 games played before signing), which is close enough to your "30 odd games". On the face of it, that's not a lot of games. However, he was our undisputed #1 ruck, with Jacobs having departed at the end of 2019. He was also our reigning Club Champion, having won the title in 2020. There is absolutely no reason to think that he would have been on anything less than $700K for most of the contract (noting that the salary probably varies from year to year, due to factors such as front loading).

 

[skam85]

Is the conjection on here based on facts?

Until there is a formal process of salaries being declared, I think we have to go with media coverage.

We can't really pick and choose when we decide to believe it.

If you believe media then you are more neurologically challenged than I first thought

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

If you believe media then you are more neurologically challenged than I first thought

The fact that different media will quote different salaries or conflicting trade rumours shows that much of the time they are guessing to stay relevant.

Best to read numerous sources to decifer where the truth may lie.

 

[Mostyn]

I don't think any of it is based on facts. Max Gawn for example categorically denied he was on the amount reported in those articles.

All we know is O'Brien signed a four year contract just a few months after winning the B&F, at a time we had a lot of salary cap space.

The average AFL salary when his contract began was $406k and that increased to $441k in 2023. We also know that in 2022-2023, clubs had on average 5-6 players earning over $700k and 2-3 earning between $600k and $700k.

I think it's unrealistic that O'Brien was only paid about 30% more than the average wage given what we know.

In 2021, when ROB signed after 30-odd games, the average salary was $372, 224.

Coming off the rookie list and still on that contract, he would have been earning $200k. A $600k offer would be triple what he was earning.

He's only ever been reported as earning between $575k and $675k.

Look, you might be right, but I can see why the offer would have been $600k and why ROB would have accepted. Again, we'll never know - sadly.

 

[Mutineer]

Do we really care what ROB is on salary wise, nobody knows other than ROB, his agent and our list manager and none of them have said so time to move on.

All I know is if Sam Draper is coming he'll be on a fair bit more I'd think so unless he improves markedly personally I don't see the value in pursuing him.