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In contract? Top 6 or 7 pick100%.
Let me ask you - what would you want if we traded FOG?
Fog is clearly best 10 for us, let alone best 22. He was our captain two weeks ago. He’s clearly valued by us. Luko just got dropped
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In contract? Top 6 or 7 pick100%.
Let me ask you - what would you want if we traded FOG?
In contract? Top 6 or 7 pick
Fog is clearly best 10 for us, let alone best 22. He was our captain two weeks ago. He’s clearly valued by us. Luko just got dropped
So the question becomes which future first do we give up? I think 2026 is better, no chance of getting the top SA talent that year (Cochrane) whereas might have some chance at sharp next year.
We need to try and bundle up our 2nd and one of the 2nds we get for Berry or Keane, and use them to get a late first.I reckon dimma is weeding out players that are largely cruising, just taking the salary at gc with no intention of really being there in the trenches doing what's required if they got in finals.
I think luko gets along with dimma way less well than dew.
I think luko is worth a pick from 14-18.
I don't think any of our trades will net a pick that early. I don't think Keane is going and Berry, Hamill and Berg won't get us any better than second rounders, which we won't be able to cobble together to get a first.
So the question becomes which future first do we give up? I think 2026 is better, no chance of getting the top SA talent that year (Cochrane) whereas might have some chance at sharp next year.
Agree with this, this board lives in fantasy land at times in valuing opposition playersI think our 2025 first is with a late 2nd coming back is probably around the mark.
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first time for everythingI hope you are right
He said permaIs that a temp or perm ban?
It's not just being dropped, it's a year of battling with the coach, the terrible performance against West Coast last week.I think people are reading too much into the fact he is dropped the same week Gold Coast are eliminated from finals contention and a day after the media re-ran the story that he is "gettable".
They're manoeuvring to get an early pick because they've been without one for so long. And they're doing it in an even draft because it's more likely the pick they could get would still be able to get a decent player.I hope you are right
Our 2025 first for Luko and pick 20 this year?Would you be happy to do that? If that was the cost I would walk away
There's leverage to be made between where we think we'll finish in 2025 and where outsiders think we'll finish.Our 2025 first for Luko and pick 20 this year?
I'd consider that.
God damn. Luko is not a need. where are we going to play him?
Clearly he isn’t suited to a wing. Hardwick and Dew would have established him there if they thought he had the tools.
So why would we even consider it?
Because he’s from SA and people at the club are hanging onto his draft position?
He’s been a complete bust. And the notion that he’ll thrive in our environment is a load of horseshit too. This the AFC remember.
You're making a lot of assumptions there.I reckon dimma is weeding out players that are largely cruising, just taking the salary at gc with no intention of really being there in the trenches doing what's required if they got in finals.
I think luko gets along with dimma way less well than dew.
I think luko is worth a pick from 14-18.
I don't think any of our trades will net a pick that early. I don't think Keane is going and Berry, Hamill and Berg won't get us any better than second rounders, which we won't be able to cobble together to get a first.
So the question becomes which future first do we give up? I think 2026 is better, no chance of getting the top SA talent that year (Cochrane) whereas might have some chance at sharp next year.
If we land Draper and still get luko this year... Among with a few sliders... That's a solid outcomeOur 2025 first for Luko and pick 20 this year?
I'd consider that.
To be fair, I actually think opposition clubs think we'll do better than we think we'll do.There's leverage to be made between where we think we'll finish in 2025 and where outsiders think we'll finish.
Gold Coast may perceive our 2025 1st round pick to be a lot earlier than we do. We should play off this and back ourselves in.
Nicks and co may as well. If we crash and burn next year they'll surely all be sacked anyway. No point them hanging on to a future pick just in case it ends up 1-3
It's not just being dropped, it's a year of battling with the coach, the terrible performance against West Coast last week.
Good analysis vs Fog, but 2023 is a long way away for Luko, and his role at GC appears untenable now.
It looks like a Stringer trade, GC have shown their hand. Nicks had flown up to meet him because the relationship is over. Luko wants to head home to try to reinvigorate his career which is failing. Gold Coast have replaced him in the forward, gets no role.
When you have a highly paid player out of the team, and a team of top 10 players all on big money to stay, its smart to just move them on.
If we land one of Draper/Lalor/O'Sullivan/Jagga this year and get a couple of other pieces that are genuinely 1st 18, then I'll be very happy.If we land Draper and still get luko this year... Among with a few sliders... That's a solid outcome
That's probably about right for Luko too, even if Stringer had done more.Oh I agree. I think he is 100% gone.
My point is that I dont think him being dropped this week affects how the trade will play out.
Think the Stringer trade is a great example and probably the closest trade to establish value for Luko. Picks 25 and 30 were given up for Stringer.
Not a chance!To be fair, I actually think opposition clubs think we'll do better than we think we'll do.
Start the car from me for our 2025 1st and their 2025 2nd coming back.Would you be happy to do that? If that was the cost I would walk away
If anyone's an uphill skier, it's Lachlan MurphyRichmond need a small forward, Murphy it is.
It's not just being dropped, it's a year of battling with the coach, the terrible performance against West Coast last week.
Good analysis vs Fog, but 2023 is a long way away for Luko, and his role at GC appears untenable now.
It looks like a Stringer trade, GC have shown their hand. Nicks had flown up to meet him because the relationship is over. Luko wants to head home to try to reinvigorate his career which is failing. Gold Coast have replaced him in the forward, gets no role.
When you have a highly paid player out of the team, and a team of top 10 players all on big money to stay, its smart to just move them on.