Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 25, last 28th August)

[1970crow]

If we have as big a pool of money sitting their that we have been led to believe then we need to spend some of it - you can only front end to a certain degree.
Perryman is a good player, tough, pretty quick and arguably the best available player left out of contract - certainly top 5 out there at the moment.
And we need more good players. I’m f that means Nank or Sholl unluckily get knocked back to depth players and Jones gets knocked back another position so be it

I would love for us to be signing LDU or Kossie Pickett or someone that would be a massive difference maker - but they aren’t available to anyone, or just us

Last year we went only for big fish - and start this year down McAdam,Doedee, Murray and Harry with only draftees to replace them

And look how that worked out


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I think it worked out alright. We haven’t been bad because we were missing those 4 players. 2 of them are defenders and our backline was pretty good. Lack of depth has allowed Dowling, Taylor and Bond to get a crack. Which, I hope, has shown our club that kids that weren’t in the anointed 26 can actually genuinely contribute to performance.

I accept that we should always be looking to improve our list during trade week. But I don’t accept that our crud year is due to not having brought in further depth in behind Murray, Dood, McAdam’s role and Schoey.

 

[1970crow]

Funny how the Vic media are all for this, but all actively campaigned against Band 1 compensation for B Crouch.
Flogs.

Brad’s contract only ever ended up around the $600k-$650k mark though. Wasn’t it band 3 in the end? If the talk was that he was going to get $850k-$900k then you could claim reporting bias.

 

[GreyCrow]

I accept that we should always be looking to improve our list during trade week. But I don’t accept that our crud year is due to not having brought in further depth in behind Murray, Dood, McAdams role and Schoey.

I wonder if we get wedded to a player type that we think is gettable and narrow our focus ie Petty

Still seems to be mentioned in despataches when even my grandma can see he has gone backwards at the same time we have developed a good core 4 backs

Are we wedded to our own guff when we say '' we will land a big fish'' which leaves Reid and co scrambling which has the follow on effect of overpaying and losing potential draft stars

 

[1970crow]

What about his leadership around the playing group? They probably don't even realise he's not there.

He did say nothing was going to change.

 

[maxlilly]

I wonder if we get wedded to a player type that we think is gettable and narrow our focus ie Petty

Still seems to be mentioned in despataches when even my grandma can see he has gone backwards at the same time we have developed a good core 4 backs

Are we wedded to our own guff when we say '' we will land a big fish'' which leaves Reid and co scrambling which has the follow on effect of overpaying and losing potential draft stars

It's all part of Nicks deflection campaign,
Telling Silvers the list is no good, putting pressure on Hamish and Reid to do something, anything.
If Nicks had a better development program and coaching ability, I'm sure our list would be looking better.
But Silvers cant see the forest for the trees

 

[GreyCrow]

If Nicks had a better development program and coaching ability, I'm sure our list would be looking better.
But Silvers cant see the forest for the trees

That was going to part of my reply that we dont have enough football people sitting down over a few beers and talking football

Its part of this football culture we sometimes lack - yes I know its old school - but taking a couple of slabs into a changeroom with 4-5 of the wiser heads at a footy club and you can solve world peace let alone list management and how you want to move forward

 

[maxlilly]

What about his leadership around the playing group? They probably don't even realise he's not there.

Just imagine getting paid $500k to go on holiday to Singapore in the middle of the season.
Obviously it must be a study trip, the team would be lost without him.
I betcha we lose now

 

[GreyCrow]

He isnt required to play so no problem from me

It was ok for DeGoey

 

[1970crow]

I wonder if we get wedded to a player type that we think is gettable and narrow our focus ie Petty

Still seems to be mentioned in despataches when even my grandma can see he has gone backwards at the same time we have developed a good core 4 backs

Are we wedded to our own guff when we say '' we will land a big fish'' which leaves Reid and co scrambling which has the follow on effect of overpaying and losing potential draft stars

Narrow focus sounds like us. Remember the old, 'needed to get the deal done to move onto others'.

 

[maxlilly]

That was going to part of my reply that we dont have enough football people sitting down over a few beers and talking football

Its part of this football culture we sometimes lack - yes I know its old school - but taking a couple of slabs into a changeroom with 4-5 of the wiser heads at a footy club and you can solve world peace let alone list management and how you want to move forward

I've always found it strange that past players can normally only get a job in the industry when they have retired as coaches, not really getting into the administration side of a club.

As you say, getting footy people in the management side of the business sounds pretty straight forward and it's surprising it doesn't happen more often.

I feel some sacked coaches would make good football operation managers as they understand what is required at all levels of a footy club.

 

[hippyhippy]

He ain't a $850K player new pay scale or not, he's no gamebreaker IMO.

You ain't getting a game breaker for 850k.. you're paying over a mill these days

 

[Vader]

I've always found it strange that past players can normally only get a job in the industry when they have retired as coaches, not really getting into the administration side of a club.

As you say, getting footy people in the management side of the business sounds pretty straight forward and it's surprising it doesn't happen more often.

I feel some sacked coaches would make good football operation managers as they understand what is required at all levels of a footy club.

There are no shortage of ex-footballers in management positions in AFL clubs, but it's not surprising that there aren't as many of them as there are in coaching positions.

Going into management requires having done a certain amount of training & education, and having gained experience in these roles. There are some footballers who have the intelligence and desire to do so, but a lot of them really are athletes who never put much effort into anything requiring intellect. Moving into coaching is a natural career progression, whereas management requires them to change stream - something which fewer players are willing or able to achieve.

 

[Mutineer]

You ain't getting a game breaker for 850k.. you're paying over a mill these days

Exactly and that's where we should be targeting, we don't need more foot soldiers we need top line talent to compliment our foot soldiers.

 

[George Kramer]

Exactly and that's where we should be targeting, we don't need more foot soldiers we need top line talent to compliment our foot soldiers.

Which ones are gettable that want to come to Adelaide? And you don’t think we’ve tried?

 

[GreyCrow]

Exactly and that's where we should be targeting, we don't need more foot soldiers we need top line talent to compliment our foot soldiers.

Who fits this criteria

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Which ones are gettable that want to come to Adelaide? And you don’t think we’ve tried?

So we should afford midfield space and a spot in the 22 to developing a top-liner (Curtin, pick 5, etc). Perryman shouldn’t be playing midfield for us. And if he’s playing wing/half back for us, why not just go for Cumming who is cheaper and a natural outside player?

 

[Mutineer]

Who fits this criteria

I don't need to tell you that, you already know, shaking them loose is the problem especially with interstate lads, Victorian's especially.

 

[maxlilly]

There are no shortage of ex-footballers in management positions in AFL clubs, but it's not surprising that there aren't as many of them as there are in coaching positions.

Going into management requires having done a certain amount of training & education, and having gained experience in these roles. There are some footballers who have the intelligence and desire to do so, but a lot of them really are athletes who never put much effort into anything requiring intellect. Moving into coaching is a natural career progression, whereas management requires them to change stream - something which fewer players are willing or able to achieve.

I still think experience in an afl environment would be critical in an administative or management role at a afl club
I'm not sure the guys we have in those important roles are showing a lot of intellect, they look clearly out of their depth

 

[Floating Doughnut]

I hope at least with all our cash we are making over the top offers to unsigned Chad Warner

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1.5

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and LDU.
Whilst our prospects of landing either are minimal or next to nothing we need to keep the WA clubs and North honest.
If we do land one for an extra $1m over 6 or 7 years so be it.

 

[Vader]

I still think experience in an afl environment would be critical in an administative or management role at a afl club
I'm not sure the guys we have in those important roles are showing a lot of intellect, they look clearly out of their depth

Yes, but experience in an AFL environment does not mean being an ex-player.

 

[George Kramer]

So we should afford midfield space and a spot in the 22 to developing a top-liner (Curtin, pick 5, etc). Perryman shouldn’t be playing midfield for us. And if he’s playing wing/half back for us, why not just go for Cumming who is cheaper and a natural outside player?

You don’t think we are trying?

 

[George Kramer]

I don't need to tell you that, you already know, shaking them loose is the problem especially with interstate lads, Victorian's especially.

And that’s the issue, so why do you continue to raise it as a preference over getting someone like Perryman? We all would want that and including the club, clearly we are struggling to and always have unless we’ve got a expat wanting to come home

 

[plugger59]

Brad’s contract only ever ended up around the $600k-$650k mark though. Wasn’t it band 3 in the end? If the talk was that he was going to get $850k-$900k then you could claim reporting bias.

The original deal was $4m over 5 years. But the Aints were 'encouraged' to restructure the deal to include a back-ended trigger. Triggers are not part of the formula.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

The original deal was $4m over 5 years. But the Aints were 'encouraged' to restructure the deal to include a back-ended trigger. Triggers are not part of the formula.

Lethlean owns all the workings for that one by memory

 

[WeeBlake]

Lethlean owns all the workings for that one by memory

That would be right, an AFL favourite