VFL 2024 Sandringham Zebras

[botts]

The biggest issue we had was being a bottom side for years we had an unsettled line up and plenty of players coming for short stints.

There are a number of gun kids running around from a couple of drafts ago that could have been saints father sons. Bowey, Ralph smith, Anderson, Jefferies, fletcher. We are just paying the price for being a poorly ran club.

 

[bergholt]

There are a number of gun kids running around from a couple of drafts ago that could have been saints father sons. Bowey, Ralph smith, Anderson, Jefferies, fletcher. We are just paying the price for being a poorly ran club.

Yep, which is the argument against the father-son rule - clubs which were historically good are more likely to have 100 game players which means they're more likely to have players who qualify for father-son.

 

[The Punter]

Yep, which is the argument against the father-son rule - clubs which were historically good are more likely to have 100 game players which means they're more likely to have players who qualify for father-son.

It's an argument - there are plenty of good arguments as to why the rule is an ass.

Should we have gifted games to blokes like Bowey and Ralphsmith in order to somehow have access to their yet-to-be-born sons? What prescience that would have been (especially as the minimum number of games to qualify for F/S was fewer in the early 90s).

We should have kept Adrian Fletcher, but not because we could have drafted his sons. He was a gun.

 

[Saint Ray]

It's an argument - there are plenty of good arguments as to why the rule is an ass.

Should we have gifted games to blokes like Bowey and Ralphsmith in order to somehow have access to their yet-to-be-born sons? What prescience that would have been (especially as the minimum number of games to qualify for F/S was fewer in the early 90s).

We should have kept Adrian Fletcher, but not because we could have drafted his sons. He was a gun.

Yes he was. We flicked him and Dale Kickett at the same time. Both were 20+ possession winners

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

This often repeated statement that our stars had daughters is not exactly accurate, i I remember. I certainly know Harvey, Loewe and Winmar had boys, some of our lesser lights did too like Matt Young, Frankie Peckett, etc.

The sad fact is they didn't take up footy or they did but weren't good enough.

Which begs the question, why not? Their dads had enough talent and presumably passion for the game to pass on to their kids, how is it that the stars of other clubs were able to sire players of equal or higher talent and determination and ours weren't?

How can the afl equalise this? Can they start a father son academy that standardises the training for sons of former players. That way we don’t get our father sons not making the cut while Collingwood get daicoses that are all Australian in 2 seasons

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Thought this might be the best thread for this stellar interview.

Best interview I’ve ever heard from a young player. Hope we take this approach with all players and hope all players have this mindset. The 2s should not be a negative thing. More a place to develop skills and reset

 

[hangdog]

Why would WCE want collard right now? Unless collard shows some improvement I doubt they'll want someone like that.

All well and good to jettison Gresham but you need to make the pick you get for him count. Right now it's making toce look foolish.

Because they know the reason for his poor form is that he wants to come home.

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

Thanks for posting CF.

What a sensational kid, you build premierships (plural) around kids like that!

Best win he's ever played in is saying something. Kids probably got junior premierships and finals wins to compare it to. Says a lot right.

 

[Saint Ray]

Because they know the reason for his poor form is that he wants to come home.

So why is he then considering signing a two year extension to his contract.

Yeah, he might be homesick but that doesn't mean he wants to go home.

 

[Rogue Warrior]

Very to excited to hear Lance is looking to extend. He wouldn’t be even thinking about it if he wanted out

 

[beside the seaside]

SANDRINGHAM (@ Williamstown Saturday 13/7, 3:05pm)
B: Z. Cordy (21), L. Stocker (14), L. O'Connell (45)
HB: A. McLennan (41), A. Hastie (24), A. Seaton (50)
C: D. Hipwell (51), B. Watson (70), T. Blamires (53)
HF: M. Allison (30), S. Ross (6), H. Hall-Kahan (55)
F: W. Vesely (73), L. Collard (4), O. Hotton (37)
R: M. Heath (42), O. Lowe (59), T. O'Leary (60)
INT: I. Keeler (17), T. Campbell (38), S. Latreille (67), J. Docking (85), B. Findlay (83)*
EMG: Lo. Young (81), B. Welsh (77), L. Ryan (76), M. Benier (65), L. Macnab (66), Le. Young (64)

IN: J. Docking, B. Findlay, T. O'Leary
OUT: H. Garcia, Z. Jones (AFL), N. Maginness (Box Hill Hawks)
NEW: Brodie Findlay, 19, 199cm, Parkdale/Sandringham Dragons

 

[Saint Ray]

SANDRINGHAM (@ Williamstown Saturday 13/7, 3:05pm)
B: Z. Cordy (21), L. Stocker (14), L. O'Connell (45)
HB: A. McLennan (41), A. Hastie (24), A. Seaton (50)
C: D. Hipwell (51), B. Watson (70), T. Blamires (53)
HF: M. Allison (30), S. Ross (6), H. Hall-Kahan (55)
F: W. Vesely (73), L. Collard (4), O. Hotton (37)
R: M. Heath (42), O. Lowe (59), T. O'Leary (60)
INT: I. Keeler (17), T. Campbell (38), S. Latreille (67), J. Docking (85), B. Findlay (83)*
EMG: Lo. Young (81), B. Welsh (77), L. Ryan (76), M. Benier (65), L. Macnab (66), Le. Young (64)

IN: J. Docking, B. Findlay, T. O'Leary
OUT: H. Garcia, Z. Jones (AFL), N. Maginness (Box Hill Hawks)
NEW: Brodie Findlay, 19, 199cm, Parkdale/Sandringham Dragons

Where is Hall?

 

[beside the seaside]

Where is Hall?

Strange one, not listed as an out

 

[BrutThough]

Strange one, not listed as an out

Was the carry over emergency last week so didn't play

 

[beside the seaside]

Was the carry over emergency last week so didn't play

Must have picked up an injury at training this week?

 

[BrutThough]

Must have picked up an injury at training this week?

He was working inside with the rehab guys on Wednesday, so must be carrying something or just generally sore?

 

[Saint Ray]

He was working inside with the rehab guys on Wednesday, so must be carrying something or just generally sore?

Thanks mate.

 

[Rogue Warrior]

Pretty disappointing not a single listed player in the midfield

 

[SaintsSeptember]

So why is he then considering signing a two year extension to his contract.

Yeah, he might be homesick but that doesn't mean he wants to go home.

He might not be homesick.
It was only people on big footy guessing.

 

[bergholt]

Pretty disappointing not a single listed player in the midfield

This is why we can basically always use more mids.

That said, I think Seb might not necessarily play CHF all day.

 

[pebblesofsand]

SANDRINGHAM (@ Williamstown Saturday 13/7, 3:05pm)
B: Z. Cordy (21), L. Stocker (14), L. O'Connell (45)
HB: A. McLennan (41), A. Hastie (24), A. Seaton (50)
C: D. Hipwell (51), B. Watson (70), T. Blamires (53)
HF: M. Allison (30), S. Ross (6), H. Hall-Kahan (55)
F: W. Vesely (73), L. Collard (4), O. Hotton (37)
R: M. Heath (42), O. Lowe (59), T. O'Leary (60)
INT: I. Keeler (17), T. Campbell (38), S. Latreille (67), J. Docking (85), B. Findlay (83)*
EMG: Lo. Young (81), B. Welsh (77), L. Ryan (76), M. Benier (65), L. Macnab (66), Le. Young (64)

IN: J. Docking, B. Findlay, T. O'Leary
OUT: H. Garcia, Z. Jones (AFL), N. Maginness (Box Hill Hawks)
NEW: Brodie Findlay, 19, 199cm, Parkdale/Sandringham Dragons

Looks like they are keeping an eye on another young ruckman.

#24 Brodie Findlay
Ruck | 199cm | 20/05/2005

Stats: 15 disposals, 4 marks, 14 hitouts

Findlay was again imperious in the ruck on Saturday, proving near impossible to manoeuvre or tackle. While opposition talls were perhaps more athletic, the over-ager showed good craft and timing to lead the hitout count. He also used his size to advantage in contested marking situations and while his ball use can be improved, his work around the ground has seen development this year.

 

[akaifu]

Looks like they are keeping an eye on another young ruckman.

#24 Brodie Findlay
Ruck | 199cm | 20/05/2005

Stats: 15 disposals, 4 marks, 14 hitouts

Findlay was again imperious in the ruck on Saturday, proving near impossible to manoeuvre or tackle. While opposition talls were perhaps more athletic, the over-ager showed good craft and timing to lead the hitout count. He also used his size to advantage in contested marking situations and while his ball use can be improved, his work around the ground has seen development this year.

So we’re probably looking at taking him for the mandatory Sandy rookie spot?

 

[jumperfan]

Looks like we're going to struggle without a proper target up forward today

 

[MightySaint]

There is sooo much to like about Keeler. Going to be great for us in the coming years, just a natural footballer.

 

[CursingFijian]

Hate to say it but Matty Allison looks great in this first quarter.