List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Shermanator · 2024-10-15T18:07:00+1100

ferball said:
Speaking from experience?

Yeah bizarre statement eh?..

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-15T18:07:02+1100

ROOS' BOLD PARKER PLOY AS DOG STILL A CHANCE TO MOVE
Max Stainkamph
North Melbourne will rely on Sydney treating 293-game premiership player Luke Parker with some dignity as he departs the club as it tries to strike a fair deal to bring him to Arden Street.
North Melbourne continues to be frustrated by the Swans’ demands for Parker, who has told the Swans he is determined to move to North Melbourne on a multi-year deal.
The Roos had offered pick 62 but the Swans have demanded a second-rounder instead for a player who was forced into the VFL for four games this year as coach John Longmire made him endure tough love after a broken arm.

Parker, 32 later this month, was one of the Swans’ few good players in the Grand Final with the Swans adamant they will secure a quality pick for the stalwart.
But the Roos believe Sydney will eventually allow Parker to be traded to Arden Street for a responsible price given it is the least he should expect after 14 faultless seasons at the Swans.
North Melbourne has picks two, 25, 44 and 62 and is still keen to secure Western Bulldogs deputy vice captain Caleb Daniel on the last day of the trade period.

The Roos believe he has not been given a promise that he will be a regular in the senior team next year after seven roles as the sub and eight VFL games but the Dogs are not promising to release him.
North Melbourne’s list boss Brady Rawlings is prepared to use the club’s No.25 draft pick in some form to pick up the contracted Daniel.
The Roos would expect a later pick back from the Dogs but at this stage that deal will also go down to the wire.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-live-updates-and-news-from-day-9-of-the-afl-trade-period/live-coverage/29ee323e27dc380ea82dfa3c68d61e63

Ligma · 2024-10-15T18:08:02+1100

Shermanator said:
Yeah bizarre statement eh?..

It was way too detailed to be a lie.

ferball · 2024-10-15T18:09:56+1100

Psicosis said:
King Corey told me about it!

Tell him he'd be better off with a bag of coke and a handfull of pingers.

Roosurgence · 2024-10-15T18:11:35+1100

winalotroos said:
It’s just nuts, I don’t get it we hear it from flogs from other clubs we don’t need to hear it from our own

It’s just the same people

In their mind RIP North Melbourne Football Club because we didn’t get Dan Houston.

Talk a bunch of sad sacks.

archereleven · 2024-10-15T18:11:36+1100

Roosurgence said:
It came across that way.

Reading between the lines he thinks the kid goes alright around less mature bodies, but might struggle to make the jump against the big boys.

Valid concerns imo, as he didn't even go alright against his contemporaries this season.

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pupstar · 2024-10-15T18:13:35+1100

Passmore said:
What deals have we been bent over for so far? We’ve only made 1 trade.

Yeah i don't get it either Passmore all this doom and gloom. We will still more than likely end up with Luke and even if we don't get anyone else we go to the draft and either split or keep pick 2 and end up with a gun player ready to go as we know these days generally speaking top 5 pick are ready to go from the start and with our 2nd pick a promising KPF or one of the small forwards. So far from doom and gloom and shut the gate time.

SpiderBurton22 · 2024-10-15T18:15:27+1100

Black Diamond · 2024-10-15T18:15:52+1100

Were we embarrassing ourselves chasing Houston? Do we have enough info to know?

Were all of the clubs in the same room engaged in a bidding war, or was Port speaking confidentially with each party? I would suggest the latter.

Maybe Port baulked for a while last night after reevaluating the differences in the bids. It is likely Houston preferred one of Collingwood or Carlton, and Port in the end decided to oblige and accepting the "worse" offer. Just like we expect the Swans to do with Parker.

I can't remember who posted this, but Melbourne and St Kilda were both told "no deal" early. That could have been Houston, or it could have been that they low-balled Port badly and weren't willing to budge.

A plausible assessment of all of this is we conducted ourselves just fine, but missed out because we are not as attractive as certain other clubs.

pupstar · 2024-10-15T18:16:40+1100

DocSholl said:
I don't necessarily think overpaying for Houston was the right move, but we're talking about probably the best player in his role in the comp, and it's a vital role in modern footy. If someone like that becomes available at any stage of development, you look into it.

If in 2/3 years none of those guys are up to it then we're probably looking at eight consecutive years of bottom finishes.

Which is exactly what we did looked into it. They wanted ridicules overs so we move on.

zoomba23 · 2024-10-15T18:17:29+1100

Makeshift Park said:
I mean, in spite of all our follies, it is just football.

When our club does dumb shit, it pisses me off, but its not a matter of life or death, so the moment passes and I get over it.

Yeah, but football stops being 'just football' when the club is in actual danger. It's why Fitzroy fans cried their eyes out. Of course it's not a matter of actual life and death but we really, really, really need to improve next year. And until I see we have, there'll be no energy to expend on anyone else's comparatively light misfortune

giantroo · 2024-10-15T18:18:16+1100

amaz199 · 2024-10-15T18:18:23+1100

Horizons_00 said:
Well Port just accepted a worse offer from pies though. Makes no sense, but to know he was never actually ever coming

But of course we were keen

**** port anyways, sucked in

F1 wasn't enough apparently.

Port wanted draft picks from this year's.

the rooboy · 2024-10-15T18:18:29+1100

Please Sam Power don’t accept pick 25 for Daniel do the right thing we aren’t thinking straight.

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Psicosis · 2024-10-15T18:20:38+1100

amaz199 said:
F1 wasn't enough apparently.

Port wanted draft picks from this year's.

What Port wanted is largely irrelevant. What Houston wanted is what mattered.

chubbspeterson · 2024-10-15T18:20:41+1100

giantroo said:

But... but deadline day!! You could've announced this as part of the last minute deadline day rush Riley Beverages.

Themanbun · 2024-10-15T18:21:36+1100

giantroo said:

Good business by Melbourne here.

The Filth Wizard · 2024-10-15T18:21:38+1100

Black Diamond said:
Were we embarrassing ourselves chasing Houston? Do we have enough info to know?

Were all of the clubs in the same room engaged in a bidding war, or was Port speaking confidentially with each party? I would suggest the latter.

Maybe Port baulked for a while last night after reevaluating the differences in the bids. It is likely Houston preferred one of Collingwood or Carlton, and Port in the end decided to oblige. Just like we expect the Swans to do with Parker.

I can't remember who posted this, but Melbourne and St Kilda were both told "no deal" early. That could have been Houston, or it could have been that they low-balled Port badly and weren't willing to budge.

A plausible assessment of all of this is we conducted ourselves just fine, but missed out because we are not as attractive as certain other clubs.

Yep. This idea that we did a trade 5 years ago that some people felt was a bit of a robbery and now everyone just keeps North on speed dial for the lols, not that we and most clubs have years of respectful and above all knowledgeable dealings with each other. I wonder sometimes if it’s Freudian in nature.

giantroo · 2024-10-15T18:21:55+1100

Disco Dew · 2024-10-15T18:22:01+1100

giantroo · 2024-10-15T18:22:12+1100

PARKER DEAL HANGS IN THE BALANCE

TALKS over Luke Parker remain at a standstill going into the trade period's final day, with North Melbourne yet to raise its offer for the Sydney veteran.

The Kangas' opening bid of pick No.62 for Parker was knocked back by the Swans in the opening days of the trade period, with the club demanding something far more significant for the contracted midfielder.

The two clubs have been yet to find a middle ground for Parker, with North Melbourne's attentions divided by the club's chase for Port Adelaide star Dan Houston and Western Bulldogs utility Caleb Daniel.

Sydney list manager Chris Keane warned on the first day of the trade period that discussions over Parker's value wouldn't be "straightforward", with North Melbourne's Brady Rawlings later saying the Kangas would have to be prepared to "move on" if talks didn't progress.

North Melbourne's pick No.25 is set to be involved in negotiations to unlock a Daniel deal, leaving the club with the No.44 selection to potentially solve the Parker standstill. The two sides have also raised the possibility of dealing in future picks to ensure an agreement is eventually reached.

Parker, who is contracted at the Swans for 2025, has requested a trade to Arden Street where he's set to take up a multi-year deal under coach Alastair Clarkson. – Riley Beveridge

Ashley B · 2024-10-15T18:22:13+1100

the rooboy said:
Please Sam Power don’t accept pick 25 for Daniel do the right thing we aren’t thinking straight.

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Don’t worry after a good nights sleep and being well rested Brady will offer our future first instead lol

Psicosis · 2024-10-15T18:23:32+1100

giantroo said:

Pick 25:

Disco Dew · 2024-10-15T18:23:59+1100

The Filth Wizard said:
I wonder sometimes if it’s Freudian in nature.

And now I’m back to ralphy and stalking horses. ffs!!!!

fusion · 2024-10-15T18:24:36+1100

pupstar said:
Which is exactly what we did looked into it. They wanted ridicules overs so we move on.

I'm happy with that outcome. Not for one second did I think he was ever considering coming to us - it was all a charade to try to get Port a better deal. We'd have to pay overs, and you don't do that for a HBF.

Keep our draft capital - we'd be in a deeper hole if we traded our future first, and then finished bottom 2 next year. Let's hope a key position player bolts up the charts over the next 12 months, or that we can trade that next year for a position of need.

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