List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Gasometer]

It will be Nmfc luck that over the next decade the No 2 will be a Brownlow, AA and Norm Smith winner playing for Richmond, whilst the two we get will be on Love Island and the other Coaching the seconds at Labrador QLD

You know it will happen

Ever since March 2022 every sliver lining at this club turns to rust

Leave it as No 2

 

[hotchilli]

I'd send our recruiters over to Oklahoma City Thunder in the NBA if they'd let us behind the curtain.
I'd love to know their drafting philosophy and process of how they scout players.
They seem to find really good players, not just Durant, Harden and Westbrook high end picks, but even at pick 12 (Jalen Williams) and even pick 50 something (Aaron Wiggins) they find very good players and role players.

It’s a very different world in terms of money and resources.

And for all their hits, they have certainly made plenty of misses. It’s more the stockpiling of assets that gives them so many opportunities in a sport where 1 guy can make such an impact.

 

[roo blitz]

All aboard the Draper train. Would only trade pick 2 for the Aints 7 & 8 or Tigs 6 & 10 or their 6 & 11. Otherwise no deals.

 

[krakouers]

Its funny you mention the Melbourne Cup, it wouldn't surprise me. The thing is Brady has to stop being this "Fancy Man" and do his business, his "Interpretation" of his management and negotiation skills must come through with a lot of "Positivity". Its just "Absurde" to think that Brady is going to do a terrible deal on draft night, he's going to have "The Map" on the players we like and where they are likely going and the other first round players as well, I know if he gets this wrong he will be in a "Circle of Fire", but trust me, he'll be "Just Fine"!

You see our Brady for some of the negativity which has come his way in recent times, at the draft this year, people will remember him as "Sharp and Smart" and the North faithful in our thoughts will be thinking, we "Trust in you"! Just watch, come draft night, with proposed picks flying everywhere our Brady will be moving at 'Warp Speed' to get the right deal done, because he is "Onesmoothoperator"! In the end, this draft is going to show that Brady is in control and while some opposition posters will reject that theory, I couldn't give a "BuckaROO", because at draft time he is our "Saint George" and by the end of it he'll be our "Valiant King"!

So… put money on…?

 

[travelli]

Could still live with 10, 11, 18

 

[Makeshift Park]

Could still live with 10, 11, 18

Why? Three first rounders looks good on paper, but it means we could miss out on Armstrong and Tauru. What would the point be?

People complain about 6+18 or 7+15 but if we’re sliding we aren’t going for midfielders, so at least those deals get us a top tier tall and a second tier tall.

10, 11 and 18 might get us three second tier talls.

 

[The Talent Scout]

So… put money on…?

Onesmoothoperator to win, big dangers Warp speed and Kovalica.

 

[krakouers]

Onesmoothoperator to win, big dangers Warp speed and Kovalica.

Well I saw they didn’t have “Split Pick 2” in the field so

 

[Mr north man]

It will be Nmfc luck that over the next decade the No 2 will be a Brownlow, AA and Norm Smith winner playing for Richmond, whilst the two we get will be on Love Island and the other Coaching the seconds at Labrador QLD

You know it will happen

Ever since March 2022 every sliver lining at this club turns to rust

Leave it as No 2

Yes I can see it now Grand Final day/night some cheap shot expert like a Cornes or Taylor saying why did North give up pick 2

 

[year of the roo]

#saynuptothecup

 

[ohmygewd]

Why? Three first rounders looks good on paper, but it means we could miss out on Armstrong and Tauru. What would the point be?

People complain about 6+18 or 7+15 but if we’re sliding we aren’t going for midfielders, so at least those deals get us a top tier tall and a second tier tall.

10, 11 and 18 might get us three second tier talls.

You could go a mid @10, KPF@11 and KPB @18? Or 10 & 11 could get you the Whitlock twins or Shanahan and Trainor ..don't think they are 'second-tier' talls?

If we keep #2 it's rinse and repeat take the best available mid...people talk about the slide, it's a slide because of bids but the, imo, their true position still holds.
Is Ashcroft worthy of a #1, yep. Is Lombard worthy of top 5-10, yep. Is Kako worthy of 10-15, yep. Is Sam Marshall worthy of top 20, yep. These kids deserve to be in that convo but a kid that bolts or slides is really the preception of the clubs and what they want...not because Twomey said so.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I think the best value we are going to get for pick 2 will be Saints Pick 8 plus their F1. That's likely to be two top 10 picks.

I'd do the above trade then use the saints F1 to trade into the back end of this draft.

Trade 1:

Out: Pick 2

In: Pick 8 and Saints F1.

Trade 2:

Out: Saints F1 and our F3

In: GWS pick 16 and GWS F3

Trade 3:

Out: F2 & GWS F3

In: Essendon Pick 28

8: Tauru or Armstrong
16: Jack Whitlock or Jobe Shanahan
28: Oliver Hannaford/Harry Oliver/Jonty Faull/Kayle Gerreyn/Noah Mraz/Harry O'Farrell.
64: River Stevens

 

[Makeshift Park]

I think the best value we are going to get for pick 2 will be Saints Pick 8 plus their F1. That's likely to be two top 10 picks.

I'd do the above trade then use the saints F1 to trade into the back end of this draft.

Trade 1:

Out: Pick 2

In: Pick 8 and Saints F1.

Trade 2:

Out: Saints F1 and our F3

In: GWS pick 16 and GWS F3

Trade 3:

Out: F2 & GWS F3

In: Essendon Pick 28

8: Tauru or Armstrong
16: Jack Whitlock or Jobe Shanahan
28: Oliver Hannaford/Harry Oliver/Jonty Faull/Kayle Gerreyn/Noah Mraz/Harry O'Farrell.
64: River Stevens

Do you still think there'd be great value in trading 2 if we can't cash in the Saints F1 for a sub 20 pick this year?

Because I think that's a real possibility.

Reckon we would've traded our own F1 if we could get decent value, given the club's comments at the member q and a, and that's a more desirable asset than the Saints F1.

And yet here we are.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Do you still think there'd be great value in trading 2 if we can't cash in the Saints F1 for a sub 20 pick this year?

Because I think that's a real possibility.

Reckon we would've traded our own F1 if we could get decent value, given the club's comments at the member q and a, and that's a more desirable asset than the Saints F1.

And yet here we are.

I think next year's draft is being slept on, so holding potentially two top 10 picks next year is nothing to be sneezed at (despite everyone saying this draft is better, which I don't agree with). Ideally though, we'd have to flip the saints F1, to get more picks this year because of our current list openings.

I think clubs in the later stages of the first round are going to be more than willing to trade for F1's. It makes so much sense especially if you are Richmond or GWS with multiple picks in the range. Even though we've been willing to shop our F1, I don't think we'd give it away for a pick beyond 15 without something coming back, as it's likely going to be a top 5 selection.

 

[Makeshift Park]

I think clubs in the later stages of the first round are going to be more than willing to trade for F1's. It makes so much sense especially if you are Richmond or GWS with multiple picks in the range. Even though we've been willing to shop our F1, I don't think we'd give it away for a pick beyond 15 without something coming back, as it's likely going to be a top 5 selection.

GWS haemorrhaged players in the trade season and now they only have 32 on their senior list and 2 rookies for 2025. That's less players than nearly every other team.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

GWS haemorrhaged players in the trade season and now they only have 32 on their senior list and 2 rookies for 2025. That's less players than nearly every other team.

Supposedly they are looking at least 2-3 mature DFA’s as well as taking 3 picks in the draft.

Have heard that Ben Paton will be up there in 2025. Parfitt and Carroll are two others that have been linked as well.

I’m tipping they’ll keep a few list spots open and have a heap of mature players train on with them in the pre-season.

 

[Horace]

Supposedly they are looking at least 2-3 mature DFA’s as well as taking 3 picks in the draft.

Have heard that Ben Paton will be up there in 2025. Parfitt and Carroll are two others that have been linked as well.

I’m tipping they’ll keep a few list spots open and have a heap of mature players train on with them in the pre-season.

With such a small number on their list now, they are going to need to add a fair few. If they cop a large number of injuries, they might struggle to field a team without quite a few recycled players, which is good news for a few of the recent delistings. Hard to see GWS competing for a flag if they suffer too many injuries.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

#saynuptothecup

I've never given two shits about the Melbourne Cup and it seems like most people are coming around to that view. Perhaps it's time to can this public holiday and establish a new public holiday on AFL Draft Day.

 

[Shinboner1]

Supposedly they are looking at least 2-3 mature DFA’s as well as taking 3 picks in the draft.

Have heard that Ben Paton will be up there in 2025. Parfitt and Carroll are two others that have been linked as well.

I’m tipping they’ll keep a few list spots open and have a heap of mature players train on with them in the pre-season.

They're in poll position to steal a few good VFL players too.
A lot of the werribee lads would be a good fit and come cheap

 

[Shinboner1]

We're in poll position to finish the list build this year and then start to move up the ladder.
Depending on the deal, I'm more than happy to trade pick 2 or the future first and get multiple picks in this year's first round if able.
Have our current 23, plus a mid, KPF and KPD developing in the vfl alongside our smalls and others and we're cooking.

 

[The Dingrel]

Have a look at the talent available this year and also have a look at the differing opinions as to who will go at what pick. If we are to believe what many are saying, being that there is no stand out pick this year, then who knows, one clubs Pick 2 might be another clubs Pick 6 or maybe even Pick 10.

In my opinion, if we can get Picks 6 and 11 for 2, then we will have won that deal.

For sure we would have!...that said, the way I see it is group players in terms of where you are truly indifferent. If the player we want is available at 6, we are still better off trading 2 for 6, and 18, (and F2 for 23) than just taking our boy at 2. (yes there'll be meltdowns). 6 and 11, probably good chance of Tauru and Armstrong. Maybe the club is indifferent between Armstrong and Shanahan or other key forwards that all have their merits. 6,18,23 could net us Tauru, best available key forward (Shanahan perhaps) and a small forward or a slider (who knows Hotton even).