List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Player moves

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[The Nostradamus]

essendon pick 9 will be gettable, should be going after it

they will trade it out to avoid a kako bid at 7/8

 

[Merlin007]

I mean waiting on barely committed target at a club with a high selling price.

Use that energy elsewhere on other targets

It's like an auction - if there's going to be a bargain, wait for the second before the drop of the hammer.

Plenty of time yet to let people stew - we're the ones with something to offer, not the other way around

 

[BrownPaperBag]

Sure. But that's unequivocally an assessment that the recruiters make based on them possessing significantly more knowledge of the specific situations than you, me or anyone else here.

Of course but presumably if we are holding currency to do that deal that may be used elsewhere then it makes sense to work on other targets, I see the value in getting Daniel but I think if he’s flip flopping or if it stretches out and means we are likely to overpay I’d be looking for alternatives

 

[spurs]

How’s pick 80 sound then muppets.

Pick 62 and 80

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Of course but presumably if we are holding currency to do that deal that may be used elsewhere then it makes sense to work on other targets, I see the value in getting Daniel but I think if he’s flip flopping or if it stretches out and means we are likely to overpay I’d be looking for alternatives

Perhaps he's not flip flopping.

 

[desie]

His source probably found out he was spilling state secrets

Oh well.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

I'm not sure it's fair to suggest that Xerri didn't want to be here - he grew up supporting the club and was over the moon to be drafted here.

The issue was opportunity, which we were able to provide in the end.

Point is that some people are saying we only want players with a declared passion for NMFC, when realistically most players at this time of year are assessing their opportunities professionally and with detachment, and it’s silly to get huffy about it and keep saying we should walk away from discussions.

 

[Hojuman]

We inquired after Kennedy ? No from most here, yeh ? Seemed to go allright when l saw limited Bloo's games. Seems like they are happy to see the back of him. Not exactly Bont or Tom Greene, but seems hard at it.

 

[Merlin007]

I'm not sure I understand the angst about Parker - the general consensus is that (unlike Darling, where opinions differ), Parker is pretty much what we want/need.

If Collingwood had come knocking for Daniel wells

Daniel Wells

Age

39

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.3

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

3star

with a year to go on his contract, would we have settled for pick 62? By all means make that first offer, but there can't be any surprise Sydney want more. In what walk of life do you get something for less than it's worth?

 

[justroyal]

I'm not sure I understand the angst about Parker - the general consensus is that (unlike Darling, where opinions differ), Parker is pretty much what we want/need.

If Collingwood had come knocking for Daniel wells with a year to go on his contract, would we have settled for pick 62? By all means make that first offer, but there can't be any surprise Sydney want more. In what walk of life do you get something for less than it's worth?

Were we not going to play wells?

 

[buttox]

I don't think it's a super draft, more like top 15-20 can't overly be separated. No real standouts


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It's deeper than normal for certain.
But I don't think it has the stand out top end talent either.
The top 5 are not as good as most years.

 

[BrownPaperBag]

Perhaps he's not flip flopping.

He likely isn’t but if WB are trying to squeeze get 25 then we walk. Put our best offer on the table take it or leave it. I just don’t think it should be a deal that we should devote a majority of our capital or time on

 

[New_Roo]

Don’t understand why a future 3rd is less valuable than this year’s 3rd? Because it might be 3-4 spots further back?

And you have 12 mths to get one back....


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[GoRoos2023]

Xerri only wanted to move for greater opportunity.

At the time he was stuck behind Goldy who wasn’t slowing down anytime soon.

A vastly different situation to a player that just wants to get out, even though they are getting playing time.

At the end of 1990 going into 91 Duck went to Adelaide and insisted he get transferred there for their inaugural year.

That’s a fact not many know, he was homesick.

Miller said get back to Arden St or your not getting paid

Worked out ok!

 

[New_Roo]

essendon pick 9 will be gettable, should be going after it

they will trade it out to avoid a kako bid at 7/8

Or won't they try to get infront of the bid, so get 2 guns


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[New_Roo]

It's deeper than normal for certain.
But I don't think it has the stand out top end talent either.
The top 5 are not as good as most years.

Agree not if anyone in the top 7-8 could potentially go at 1


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[The Nostradamus]

Or won't they try to get infront of the bid, so get 2 guns


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Correct
Point is pick 9 is gettable for them to go either way

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Xerri only wanted to move for greater opportunity.

At the time he was stuck behind Goldy who wasn’t slowing down anytime soon.

A vastly different situation to a player that just wants to get out, even though they are getting playing time.

We just traded in CCJ to pair with and replace Goldie. X out trained him to win that spot.

 

[shinboner magic]

At the end of 1990 going into 91 Duck went to Adelaide and insisted he get transferred there for their inaugural year.

That’s a fact not many know, he was homesick.

Miller said get back to Arden St or your not getting paid

Imagine gets homesick for a shit country town - go live in Moe then

 

[DarkPhoenix]

The perth bloke on trade radio sooking about vic media looking after vic players

 

[Moti]

I think due to this year's draft being deeper and stronger than next.

I remember this time last year when we were bemoaning a lite on draft for 2024. Banking on a good 2025 draft in this environment is an attractive gamble.

 

[Lomas]

At the end of 1990 going into 91 Duck went to Adelaide and insisted he get transferred there for their inaugural year.

That’s a fact not many know, he was homesick.

Miller said get back to Arden St or your not getting paid

Worked out ok!

A few years late Modra went missing from Adelaide to go and play with his brothers in the Sunraysia league. He got a stern talking to and dragged back to Adelaide in the end, too.

 

[shintemaster]

Maybe but he’s also contracted and not actively looking around

And dogs don’t care what his perceived value is

They just know what they want to let him go

Dogs do care. He's not a required player now - no matter what noises they are making - they are playing hard to get as they want an offer. IMO they'd be happy for him to go and they want us to pay for the privilige.

 

[giantroo]

 

[My Left Foote]

I meant the replacement...

Sorry, misunderstood that.