List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 11th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.

Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

Yes but their point still stands I guess. We traded out so we wouldn't have to use that pick on Thomas and got Polec in addition, when the go these days is to trade ahead of the bid so you get 2 for 1. We got 2 for 1, it's just one of those 2 was Polec, lol.

It wasn't an option to live trade for a future pick back then, which will be Essendon's next move on draft night if Kako is bid on with a pick before their pick 9. They will be calling everyone with a F1.

 

[lockheed]

Think this is all about Butters. Butters, from what I’ve heard, which is albeit not a lot that is verifiable, wants to head home in 2025, is a few whispers going around. Watkins is good friends with Butters from my understanding. May be an attempt to keep him around.

Watkins is a good player in his own right but I’m unsure what POD he’d have on their list.

So, if Port don't rookie Watkins, we offer him a rookie spot next year, perhaps if ...

 

[Val Keating]

Didn't we use our first round pick in the Thomas draft to bring in Polec?

They changed the matching system since then though. I don’t know exactly what to, I just know that it’s different. Iirc it’s about trying to stop clubs from stockpiling late picks to match bids.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I thought the mail is that Houston wants to go to Collingwood?

Like the Carlton near-certainty a week ago, the pies favouritism is up for debate. The pies became ‘favourites’ because the media thought they were getting pick 13 in a noble + picks deal. Given the complete uncertainty over whether the pies get 13, whether 13 + Richards is enough for port (which is doubtful) and that Houston has not actually nominated anyone yet, the pies favouritism is still quite debatable. The media are sticking to it largely because of their large club bias and don’t know enough to say otherwise.

What remains actually solid is our deal and that we have the higher picks to satisfy port. Houston is reportedly in Melbourne today meeting with pies, us and Carlton.

Most likely scenario is he stays and we trade out pick 2 for our own drafting purposes.

 

[amaz199]

FWIW, I haven't heard anything RE player contract situations. The only stuff coming out is trade period info which hasn't really made much progress.

Players are on break and working towards the goals set by the club. Also, Wardlaw is best mates with Sheezel. They are in it for the long haul.

 

[Jimmac31]

How does that unlock the Houston trade? Port would ask for both picks

... but we get Owies ...

 

[Val Keating]

Like the Carlton near-certainty a week ago, the pies favouritism is up for debate. The pies became ‘favourites’ because the media thought they were getting pick 13 in a noble + picks deal. Given the complete uncertainty over whether the pies get 13, whether 13 + Richards is enough for port (which is doubtful) and that Houston has not actually nominated anyone yet, the pies favouritism is still quite debatable. The media are sticking to it largely because of their large club bias and don’t know enough to say otherwise.

What remains actually solid is our deal and that we have the higher picks to satisfy port. Houston is reportedly in Melbourne today meeting with pies, us and Carlton.

Most likely scenario is he stays and we trade out pick 2 for our own drafting purposes.

Thanks mate. Didn’t think we were in the race because the only place Houston has been linked to North is in here. I knew that North wanted him, didn’t know that he was considering it.

 

[Psicosis]

Then all on here would be up in arms that we traded pick one and missed out on him a no win situation for the club. What support would have helped How do you know we didn't offer all the support possible or are you just guessing we didnt.

You can’t be serious can you?

Whilst I’m sure the club thought they were doing all they could (a generous assumption), hindsight points to that it was as bad a run football club as we will see. At that time, David Noble was our coach (no longer in the AFL). Ben Amarfio our CEO (no longer in the AFL). Brady Rawlings was our GM of Footy (demoted and survived because of his association with the club). Tarryn Thomas his closest friend (no longer in the AFL).

Jason was/is immature. However, anyone arguing that the club provided him the best possible support to set him up for success in our state and football club is f*kn delusional.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Thanks mate. Didn’t think we were in the race because the only place Houston has been linked to North is in here. I knew that North wanted him, didn’t know that he was considering it.

I am just relaying media reporting. We aren’t talked about as much because we haven’t offered picks this year yet.

 

[tales129]

You can’t be serious can you?

Whilst I’m sure the club thought they were doing all they could (a generous assumption), hindsight points to that it was as bad a run football club as we will see. At that time, David Noble was our coach (no longer in the AFL). Ben Amarfio our CEO (no longer in the AFL). Brady Rawlings was our GM of Footy (demoted and survived because of his association with the club). Tarryn Thomas his closest friend (no longer in the AFL).

Jason was/is immature. However, anyone arguing that the club provided him the best possible support to set him up for success in our state and football club is f*kn delusional.

Not only that he was telling all the campaigners at the milk factory that he wanted to be in Adelaide.

 

[PokerRoo]

Who is this years version of Neale?

25 year olds coming off the previous 4 years he had with Freo becoming available don't come around often.

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I was just countering the argument that Bris traded in all these players once they were successful. They didn't they traded in players, for high draft picks before they jumped up the ladder (as well as while they were up top). If we wait to trade in A-Grade talent until we are playing finals, we may never will.

We shouldn't pay too much, but we should what we can to get Houston without damaging our draft hands too much. I would be happy with no first next year (or a late first ) if we could get Houston in

 

[Kanga Glory]

ITK it's time we stop talking about JHF , let it go and move on. Seriously I've been outside for a few hours come back in and put myself through 5 pages of this. For the love off god .

 

[buttox]

ITK it's time we stop talking about JHF , let it go and move on. Seriously I've been outside for a few hours come back in and put myself through 5 pages of this. For the love off god .

2024 trade thread 90% whingers about jhf and boomer.
Get over it.
Time to move on was years ago in both cases.

 

[blackshadow]

My brother in Christ, how high are you?

 

[winalotroos]

ITK it's time we stop talking about JHF , let it go and move on. Seriously I've been outside for a few hours come back in and put myself through 5 pages of this. For the love off god .

Yes this please, some good vibes would be nice

 

[krakouers]

Also, Wardlaw is best mates with Sheezel. They are in it for the long haul.

How good are these two?

 

[winalotroos]

How good are these two?

That’s the way, and they are F**ken shit hot good

 

[The Talent Scout]

Owies is not contracted, that's part of the mystery as to why Carlton would let a 30+ forward go

No mystery, its his attitude towards the coaches, this is why Carlton are prepared to part ways with him.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

FWIW, I haven't heard anything RE player contract situations. The only stuff coming out is trade period info which hasn't really made much progress.

Players are on break and working towards the goals set by the club. Also, Wardlaw is best mates with Sheezel. They are in it for the long haul.

Yeah, one of the deleted posts last night was trying to say they dislike each other which is way from fact.

 

[pupstar]

Yes killing it all the way into the bottom 2 for a 5th straight year. Kudos for at least giving me one thing the NMFC has got wrong. :stern look

You can’t be serious can you?

Whilst I’m sure the club thought they were doing all they could (a generous assumption), hindsight points to that it was as bad a run football club as we will see. At that time, David Noble was our coach (no longer in the AFL). Ben Amarfio our CEO (no longer in the AFL). Brady Rawlings was our GM of Footy (demoted and survived because of his association with the club). Tarryn Thomas his closest friend (no longer in the AFL).

Jason was/is immature. However, anyone arguing that the club provided him the best possible support to set him up for success in our state and football club is f*kn delusional.

I love that word hindsight .Same posters use it so often.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]