List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 14th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[buttox]

What I'd do for Houston.
F1 and Goad and ccj (we pay full salary) for
Houston and soldo.
Port get a couple of south Australians.
We dump ccj and a project ruck for far better ruck cover.

 

[giantroo]

The core elements of the deal would have seen the Pies secure Houston and pick 58 for their future first-rounder and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

.

The Suns would have landed Noble, Port Adelaide and Collingwood’s future first-rounders and pick 39, and the Power would have got Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, Joe Richards and picks 13, 29 and 36.

But on Monday night, the Power was adamant the deal was insufficient and was threatening to trade Houston to North Melbourne. The Roos have offered a future first-rounder as part of a deal.

The Power’s view is that having agreed to trade Houston back to Victoria, they are not willing to accept a lesser Collingwood offer when the Roos’ deal is clearly of a higher quality.

The only wrinkle in accepting a Roos 2025 first-rounder for Houston is that the Power would prefer 2024 selections instead of future picks.

It remains to be seen if the Magpies and Suns can restructure aspects of the trade deal to resuscitate it, but the Power believed they were being strong-armed by Houston’s camp to accept a lesser deal.

Gold Coast was on Monday night threatening to trade the No.13 draft pick to a rival party if the trade fell over, given huge demand for that selection.

And the Houston camp was furious that a trade that had seemed over the line on Monday night had now seemed to have flatlined.

 

[zoomba23]

"I'm told Atkins doesn't want to leave his brother's behind."
Do you mean leave his brothers behind? The apostrophe between the r and s means a whole different thing?

Go through Bigfooty scandal folklore and you'll find that the apostrophe is very much deliberate

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Absolutely. We've been generally poor in the trade space as long as I can remember. (For reference, I don't think I knew what the trade season was until the late nineties)

But blaming Clarko, Viney and Rawlings for that is a bit like blaming Coltrane for Miles Davis' patchy early years.

I don't know if anyone is blaming Clarko et al, but the reason you would go back to 2017 is that shows you how we got to where we are now. The picture doesn't get any better if you roll back further.
I like Logue. Tucker I'll take as steak knives. Fisher, Stephens, not so much. We'll see what the future holds.
You do realise Birth of the Cool is a compilation of Miles Davis earliest recordings as band leader?

 

[krakouers]

I'm told Atkins doesn't want to leave his brother's behind. Do you mean leave his brothers behind? The apostrophe between the r and s means a whole different thing?

There are some dark and nasty places on Bigfooty you can go for that reference..
Or some websites… to your own preference

 

[Waynesworld]

F*ck you Port, deal is now pick 61 for Houston and your second rounder.

Take it or leave it.

 

[chubbspeterson]

From me it's not.
He may have heard from Port but I haven't so it's third hand at best.
I'd do Goad for soldo in isolation.
Feck project rucks clogging the list.

No. Keep Goad. We'll need somebody developing below Xerri, not a cooked 28 year old. We've got CCJ already.

 

[Passmore]

Did Port soft-launch the trade and have now baulked after the supporter feedback?

Or are they being shit campaigners to Houston? “Oops, sorry Dan….we’ve changed our minds….”

 

[buttox]

 

[buttox]

There are some dark and nasty places on Bigfooty you can go for that reference..
Or some websites… to your own preference

Yes but glascotts monkey is well worth a read.

 

[Makeshift Park]

You do realise Birth of the Cool is a compilation of Miles Davis earliest recordings as band leader?

Right, but then it took him the best part of a decade to get JC onboard and release Round About Midnight, which is when the amazing run starts.

 

[tales129]

2> Melbournes 5&9

9 to port for Houston

F1 to Gold Coast for 13

5,13,25 houston

Move 26 F1 into 25 draft so we don’t lose out on father sons

 

[FlyHigh18]

This is just so embarrassing now.

No one can beat our offer yet there’s still no commitment from Houston and they’re still working with the pies/blues instead , which proves he doesn’t want to come to us.

Need to have some dignity here. We should have given a timeline and then moved on.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

"I'm told Atkins doesn't want to leave his brother's behind."
Do you mean leave his brothers behind? The apostrophe between the r and s means a whole different thing?

Your username is strangely relevant to the story. Except exchange 'roo' for 'twin'.

 

[big_e]

"I'm told Atkins doesn't want to leave his brother's behind."
Do you mean leave his brothers behind? The apostrophe between the r and s means a whole different thing?

And if you still don't know, well, don't Google the Atkins brothers...

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Walk away North. Dan is not interested and it will cost way to much.

 

[Danni_Benson]

You love the drama, based on my limited viewing of RHNY clips, it looks one shiv away from being a prison riot.

Let’s say it’s a guilty pleasure coupled with the stunning backdrop of Manhattan!

 

[Passmore]

Chom was awful 1v1 but he can nearly play pure intercept with Griff back in taking second best forward.

He’s a novice to AFL defending. I’m sure there’s quite a bit of improvement there. Particularly if he’s working with Logue.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Your username is strangely relevant to the story. Except exchange 'roo' for 'twin'.

lol Jesus Christ

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

 

[SheezNuts]

Not that he’ll come to us anyway but he clearly doesn’t want to play for us. Not worth pursuing. Actually really embarrassing if he ends up with us, and if I was a north player I’d be pretty filthy with him.

 

[hilly]

Remember the recycled players of the 90s?

Grant, Bell, Abraham, Roberts, Blakey, Laidley, Scott, Clayton, Nicholls, Armstrong, Ischenko, Pike. Not many of them superstars in their own right, but were lucky and able to slot into settled team full of stars and a simple game plan where they knew exactly what their role was.

Any ‘role player’ joining from another club in last 7 years has joined a team as settled as a blue arsed fly, pre-destining their eventual failure.


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That and the 90s players were much better.

 

[JGreezy]

This is just so embarrassing now.

No one can beat our offer yet there’s still no commitment from Houston and they’re still working with the pies/blues instead , which proves he doesn’t want to come to us.

Need to have some dignity here. We should have given a timeline and then moved on.

I don't see this "embarrassing" angle.
It's seems like he'd prefer to go to a side that is expected to play finals next year and we're not that yet.

I don't want Brady to make decisions based on worrying about embarrassment for trying.

 

[krakouers]

lol Jesus Christ

I’m sure he frowns on that kinda thing, but hey, a few generations before him the options weren’t there so who knows

 

[Makeshift Park]

What I'd do for Houston.
F1 and Goad and ccj (we pay full salary) for
Houston and soldo.
Port get a couple of south Australians.
We dump ccj and a project ruck for far better ruck cover.

Not Goad! We haven't given him a chance. CCJ for Soldo, sure. I'd even throw them a future fourth.