List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 15th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[stavro#4]

hypothetically, Would you do:

2+25 for 8+F1?

You can go land gold coasts 13 or Freo’s 11 with our F1 and land Houston.

Overall: North get Houston + P8

for

We Get: 2+25

 

[BrownPaperBag]

hypothetically, Would you do:

2+25 for 8+F1?

You can go land gold coasts 13 or Freo’s 11 with our F1 and land Houston.

Overall: North get Houston + P8

for

We Get: 2+25

Would prefer 7 and 8 for 2 and 25

 

[kirbonavich]

Surely Carlton wont offer pick 3 for Houston?

You'd think it was for FOS.

 

[stavro#4]

Would prefer 7 and 8 for 2 and 25

stick to the hypothetical

 

[Makeshift Park]

Wonder if we've told Houston he has to nominate us today, or else we move on.

We need time to sort out the deal with Port if its happening, or pursue the alternatives if its not.

 

[Ashley B]

In other news next yrs membership direct debit just got taken out , that never seems to miss a beat lol. No horse stalking there whatever that means, just looked it up think Jon is right.

 

[kool kangas]

Would prefer 7 and 8 for 2 and 25

our F1st to GC for pick #13 which we offer to Port for Houston..

once that deal is done then offer our Pick#2 for Melbournes Pick#5 and #9

 

[hilly]

Do we give Brady credit for knocking this one back (presumably) or will Thursfield get the credit or something weird.

I'd give Carlton credit for having the audacity to raise it.

 

[BrownPaperBag]

stick to the hypothetical

It’s not terrible but I’d be pushing for my deal

 

[archereleven]

NM trades 2, f1 for St Kilda 7, 8, f1
NM trades f1 (StK) for Freo 11
NM trades 11 for Houston

7, 8, 25 to the draft

Get 'er done Snoz.

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[cybercrab]

hypothetically, Would you do:

2+25 for 8+F1?

You can go land gold coasts 13 or Freo’s 11 with our F1 and land Houston.

Overall: North get Houston + P8

for

We Get: 2+25

I definitely would

 

[stavro#4]

NM trades 2, f1 for St Kilda 7, 8, f1
NM trades f1 (StK) for Freo 11
NM trades 11 for Houston

7, 8, 25 to the draft

Get 'er done Snoz.

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Mate we aren’t trading our 2 picks down to 1.

We want a better hand in this draft.

 

[tazaa]

I listened to my first bit of trade radio this morning and they (Kane and whoever was on with him early) said exactly this - they said if North land Houston, Parker and Daniel as well as Darling (even though not convinced about Darling’s value) the club should be looking at around eight wins next season and be pushing for finals the season after.

I know its not a like for like comparison but remember when Man City landed Robinho after they were bought by Sheikh Mansour.
They landed a talented footballer who then changed the image of the club and all of a sudden more quality players started to show interest.

Even when we landed Dal Santo in 2013 and then got Higgins and Waite the year after.

Landing Houston could be that moment that takes us from basket case to a competitor again.
Just need some luck for once

 

[Mr north man]

NM trades 2, f1 for St Kilda 7, 8, f1
NM trades f1 (StK) for Freo 11
NM trades 11 for Houston

7, 8, 25 to the draft

Get 'er done Snoz.

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In Theory yes but Port want 2X1st round picks remember

 

[The Nostradamus]

Mate we aren’t trading our 2 picks down to 1.

We want a better hand in this draft.

That’s great gagf then

 

[archereleven]

Mate we aren’t trading our 2 picks down to 1.

We want a better hand in this draft.

2, 3-5 for 7, 8, 10-13

A better 'hand' is getting the top talent, not what falls to you...

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[My Left Foote]

If we're intent on trading our F1, which it seems like we are, would we consider this? Or maybe F1 for Tigers 10 which they'll get from Freo for Bolton? Even if the Houston deal fell over we take that pick to the draft.

I think in both cases we're paying overs, pick F1 – 5 for 10 or 11, but it seems a risk we're prepared to take given we're intent / desperate to improve rapidly.

 

[stavro#4]

2, 3-5 for 7, 8, 10-13

A better 'hand' is getting the top talent, not what falls to you...

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We have 2 current top 10 picks.

Improving one is a better hand.

Trading out 2 for 1 is just stupid.

 

[Sphynx]

our F1st to GC for pick #13 which we offer to Port for Houston..

once that deal is done then offer our Pick#2 for Melbournes Pick#5 and #9

So West Coast just trade something of similar value for 12, 14 + Owies and are universally shit canned, yet some of our supporters are happy to to just get 13?!

Do some think we are odds on for finals next year!?

 

[roos_fanatic08]

If we're intent on trading our F1, which it seems like we are, would we consider this? Or maybe F1 for Tigers 10 which they'll get from Freo for Bolton? Even if the Houston deal fell over we take that pick to the draft.

I think in both cases we're paying overs, pick F1 – 5 for 10 or 11, but it seems we're intent / desperate to improve rapidly.
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I think Richmond would be more interested in getting 2 off our hands.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I know its not a like for like comparison but remember when Man City landed Robinho after they were bought by Sheikh Mansour.
They landed a talented footballer who then changed the image of the club and all of a sudden more quality players started to show interest.

Even when we landed Dal Santo in 2013 and then got Higgins and Waite the year after.

Landing Houston could be that moment that takes us from basket case to a competitor again.
Just need some luck for once

And the funny thing there is Robinho thought he was signing for Machester United.

There's certainly some fun parallels.

 

[Sphynx]

If we're intent on trading our F1, which it seems like we are, would we consider this? Or maybe F1 for Tigers 10 which they'll get from Freo for Bolton? Even if the Houston deal fell over we take that pick to the draft.

I think in both cases we're paying overs, pick F1 – 5 for 10 or 11, but it seems we're intent / desperate to improve rapidly.
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Our F1 is as valuable as Pick 2. Until we prove otherwise.

Possibly even more so in not as even a draft with the possibility our F1 is a pick which precedes a lot of Acadamy and FS selections.


Would you trade Pick 2 for Pick 11 now?

 

[JGreezy]

Gotta disagree. This isn’t waiting until the night is done because one of the drunk chicks might bite. There’s a finite amount of elite players up for grabs in any window.

We’re in the dance because we’ve been asked to stay. Melbourne were asked to leave, so were the Saints. Like any player that comes into our club, most probably with dreams of other colours, we make them love us til death do we part.

We're playing the friend zone and hanging around hoping that we're the only one left. But there's no shame in my game. If it gets us Houston then it was worth it.

 

[archereleven]

In Theory yes but Port want 2X1st round picks remember

Then they keep him. They were doing 13 and steak knives yesterday, and we have 'hand' once Collingwood is out.

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[The Filth Wizard]

If we're intent on trading our F1, which it seems like we are, would we consider this? Or maybe F1 for Tigers 10 which they'll get from Freo for Bolton? Even if the Houston deal fell over we take that pick to the draft.

I think in both cases we're paying overs, pick F1 – 5 for 10 or 11, but it seems we're intent / desperate to improve rapidly.
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We would have traded the F1 for 13 yesterday if we could, no doubt this should be a target for us if Houston falls down. With Freo after Warner we might be able to tempt a sweetener too.

It could just be on the money for a Tauru type, should he get past the Saints and Demons.