List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades - Update - 15th October

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4star K 9.2 4star HB 7.1 4star M 3.5 4star T 2.0 4star MG 186.1 3star D 14.2 3star K 7.7 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.2 3star T 1.8 3star MG 149.7 3star D 18.8 5star K 11.0 4star HB 7.8 5star M 4.0 4star T 2.2 4star MG 229.8 4star	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 3star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 4star MG 369.3 5star D 14.8 4star K 11.5 4star HB 3.3 2star M 3.4 3star T 1.8 3star MG 369.3 5star D 13.6 4star K 11.2 4star HB 2.4 3star M 4.2 4star T 2.2 4star MG 358.0 5star , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5star K 12.1 4star HB 7.9 5star M 4.6 4star T 1.9 4star MG 367.4 5star D 9.0 2star K 5.0 2star HB 4.0 3star M 0.3 1star T 2.7 4star MG 147.7 3star D 14.2 4star K 8.8 4star HB 5.4 4star M 4.0 4star T 1.2 3star MG 217.8 4star Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5star K 11.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 4.9 5star T 3.0 5star MG 289.2 4star D 17.6 4star K 11.6 4star HB 6.0 3star M 3.3 3star T 3.4 4star MG 319.9 5star D 16.6 4star K 12.4 5star HB 4.2 4star M 7.0 5star T 2.6 4star MG 279.8 5star , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4star K 7.8 3star HB 7.9 5star M 3.2 3star T 2.6 4star MG 222.2 3star D 14.6 4star K 6.8 3star HB 7.9 4star M 3.8 4star T 1.8 3star MG 191.9 3star D 14.4 4star K 6.2 3star HB 8.2 5star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star MG 224.2 4star to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble

9

John Noble

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

186.1

3star

D

14.2

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

149.7

3star

D

18.8

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

229.8

4star

to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius

13

Jack Lukosius

Age

24

Ht

195cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

369.3

5star

D

14.8

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

369.3

5star

D

13.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

358.0

5star

, Richards, Rory Atkins

2

Rory Atkins

Age

30

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker

7

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[JGreezy]

Wow. We’re actually being rimmed by these bigger clubs because of our desperation.
How ****ed is that. For a 293 gamer and Daniels?
Gee-whiz getting afl assistance was easier

Did I miss where something happened?

 

[buttsauce]

Keep pick 2 and pick up another gun mid. Our midfield still has the likes of Jy, Powell, Phillips floating around in it.

 

[koshari]

If we don’t have at least 2 picks in the top 25 then I’ll class this period as a dismal failure.

Realistically we need 4 picks inside 40, and we should be finding ways to do that without sacrificing our F1.

I’m dreading tomorrow.

agree, bracing for bullwinkle vibes...

 

[ferball]

Issue is that Richmond, Sydney and definitely the Dogs would never agree to any of that.

Richmond may be keen for a swap with 2. The would probably want 2 for 6 and 20.

 

[LeFtBehinD]

If we don’t have at least 2 picks in the top 25 then I’ll class this period as a dismal failure.

Realistically we need 4 picks inside 40, and we should be finding ways to do that without sacrificing our F1.

I’m dreading tomorrow.

Lol we need established players.

I’m all for trying to split or move up to make sure we can get KP quality, but another 4x 17 year olds just stagnates us.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Richmond may be keen for a swap with 2. The would probably want 2 for 6 and 20.

6 and 14 they would do imo

And swans would take a future 3rd for Parker get some points for any academy players next year

That shows us coming to the party after pick 62 initial offer

 

[Ashley B]

Just keep 2 and get the very best imo

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Got a snap shot? I'm not signing up to that shambles

 

[JGreezy]

If we don’t have at least 2 picks in the top 25 then I’ll class this period as a dismal failure.

Realistically we need 4 picks inside 40, and we should be finding ways to do that without sacrificing our F1.

I’m dreading tomorrow.

It seems like we're trying but teams are really valuing those picks, too.

 

[zoomba23]

We had our chance to let Zurhaar go to Pies and we would have received pick 3. This would have given us a huge opportunity to attract a good player and stay in the draft. But no - we let that one slip because we need another half forward who goes at half rat power for 18 games a year.

No, we wouldn't have. We really wouldn't have

 

[LB2Snake]

Richmond may be keen for a swap with 2. The would probably want 2 for 6 and 20.

Tell ‘em to get stuffed

 

[Shermanator]

Did i miss 10 to 15 players beat every thing they test for at the combine? Oh its 25 that are amazing, so 25 broken records then, right?

No just one - Nostrils..

 

[ferball]

Tell ‘em to get stuffed

I'd tell 'em 6 and 10 and (like nostra) settle for 14.

 

[krakouers]

If I was Atkins I'd just delete social media for a while.

Only a while?
Should change his name before he moves back

 

[LB2Snake]

I'd tell 'em 6 and 10 and (like nostra) settle for 14.

6 is 3 players away from 2 ……if there is a bloke they desperately want to pair with pick 1, and I think that’s FOS with Lalor, this is their only alternative.
Put the squeeze on em for 10. Melbourne will play funny buggers with us at 5, threatening to take Tauru, so they will come for a swap of 5 and 6. I reckon, on the night, there will be heaps of pick threats and swaps.
We need 2 of Armstrong/Tauru/Travaglia/Trainor …….we can make this happen if patient I think.

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

I'd tell 'em 6 and 10 and (like nostra) settle for 14.

5 and 9 from Melb, if they have their eye on someone at 2, they’ll pay.

 

[zoomba23]

Melbourne will play funny buggers with us at 5, threatening to take Tauru, so they will come for a swap of 5 and 6. I reckon, on the night, there will be heaps

Brings me back to the made-up scenario either last year or the year before in which we traded pick 4 for pick 5. Good times

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

Appears that we are obsessed with adding an experienced head to every line. Don't hate the logic but there's a limit on what it should cost.

 

[LB2Snake]

Brings me back to the made-up scenario either last year or the year before in which we traded pick 4 for pick 5. Good times

Don’t remember that ? When did we have pick 4? Sheezel and George? Were the * trying to swap?

 

[buttsauce]

Why don’t we just forget about Daniel and play Powell at half back? Ball magnet, good decision maker and user. Too slow for the midfield.

 

[chubbspeterson]

If we don’t have at least 2 picks in the top 25 then I’ll class this period as a dismal failure.

Realistically we need 4 picks inside 40, and we should be finding ways to do that without sacrificing our F1.

I’m dreading tomorrow.

I agree. I'd rather keep/slide pick 2, F1, 25 and ideally 44. Give up a 44/F3 at most for Parker. No Daniel trade.
But back of my mind Brady mentioned bringing the F1 forward for a player or picks and/or sliding from 2.
So I'm dreading and preparing myself for that eventuality right up until draft night.
I do think teams will more readily trade out a F1 going forward because those 2nd round picks will get pushed even further with F/S and academy bids, that if you want a prospect in the teens you're going to have to slide or trade futures.

 

[Jeremy Jordan]

This draft has turned into the greatest draft in the history of the game

 

[My Left Foote]

Have faith people, just you wait until this comes to fruition tomorrow, in RooSteve we trust.

 

[Jimmy's Hot Dogs]

I’m glad we didn’t get Houston. The thought of him sitting on the edge of the bed eating an apple as Clarko sang Good Vibrations will keep me awake tonight.

I hope Sheezel calls him out when he and the Warlord hold aloft the premiership cup.

 

[zoomba23]

Don’t remember that ? When did we have pick 4? Sheezel and George? Were the * trying to swap?

Don't recall. It was one of the last two years. Maybe we saw it as pick 4 because we knew Walter would go before our pick 3. Anyway, the idea was introduced and a whole lot of people got their trousers in a twist about the idea of it. Genuine anger and angst at a scenario that was very obviously entirely made-up.

We need to relax on here. It's not talented youngsters that we're short on