List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

giantroo · Oct 4, 2024

Picks	Clubs	Result
15-10-24 - Pick Trade	StKilda & Brisbane	Brisbane receives St Kilda's R2 (27) Pick St Kilda receives Brisbane's R2 (32,45) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Essendon	Melbourne receives Essendon's R1 (9), 2025 R3 Pick Essendon receives Melbourne's 2025 F1, 2024 R2 (28,40), R3(46,54), R4 (65) Picks
14-10-24 - Pick Trade	Melbourne & Adelaide	Adelaide receives Melbourne's 2025 3R Pick Melbourne receives Adelaide's 2024 3R(46) Pick
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Brisbane & Richmond	Richmond receives Brisbane's 1R Pick (pick 20) Brisbane receives Richmond's 2R (32,42), 3R (43,45) Picks
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Brisbane	Carlton receives Brisbane's R4 (73), 2025 R2 Pick Brisbane receives Carlton's R2(34), R4(66)
11-10-24 - Pick Trade	Carlton & Hawthorn	Carlton receives Hawthorn's R1(14) pick Hawthorn receives Carlton's 2025 R1, R2 (tied to Carlton) picks

Player	Original Club	Trade/FA	New Club	Result
Daniel Rioli	Richmond	Trade	Gold Coast	Gold Coast receive Richmond's Daniel Rioli 17 Daniel Rioli Age 27 Ht 179cm Wt 78kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 11.2 3 K 5.8 2 HB 5.4 4 M 2.7 3 T 3.2 5 MG 179.2 3 D 8.1 2 K 4.9 2 HB 3.3 2 M 2.0 2 T 2.6 4 MG 144.9 3 D 9.0 3 K 3.8 2 HB 5.2 4 M 0.8 1 T 3.8 5 MG 160.2 3 , R4 (51,61,70,76) Picks Richmond receive GC's R1(6), R2(23) Picks
Shai Bolton	Richmond	Trade	Fremantle	Fremantle receive Richmond's Shai Bolton 29 Shai Bolton Age 25 Ht 176cm Wt 77kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 12.3 3 K 6.9 3 HB 5.4 4 M 2.8 3 T 2.9 4 CL 1.4 4 D 12.7 3 K 9.2 4 HB 3.5 2 M 3.0 3 T 2.7 4 CL 1.8 4 D 9.2 3 K 4.6 2 HB 4.6 4 M 2.0 3 T 2.6 4 CL 0.0 1 , R1(14), 2025 R3 Pick. Richmond receive Fremantle's R1(10,11,18) Picks
Harry Sharp	Brisbane & Melbourne	Trade	Melbourne	Melbourne receives Brisbane's Harry Sharp, 2025 R3 pick (tied to Brisbane) Brisbane receives Melbourne's 2024 R3(49), 2025 R3 pick (tied to Essendon).
Dan Houston Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 Joe Richards Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 John Noble 9 John Noble Age 27 Ht 180cm Wt 72kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.3 4 K 9.2 4 HB 7.1 4 M 3.5 4 T 2.0 4 MG 186.1 3 D 14.2 3 K 7.7 3 HB 6.5 4 M 3.2 3 T 1.8 3 MG 149.7 3 D 18.8 5 K 11.0 4 HB 7.8 5 M 4.0 4 T 2.2 4 MG 229.8 4	Port Adelaide Gold Coast Collingwood Gold Coast Collingwood	Trade	Collingwood Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Port Adelaide Gold Coast	Port Adelaide receives GC's R1(13),GC R2(29,36), GC R3(50) Picks, Jack Lukosius 13 Jack Lukosius Age 24 Ht 195cm Wt 91kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 3 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 4 MG 369.3 5 D 14.8 4 K 11.5 4 HB 3.3 2 M 3.4 3 T 1.8 3 MG 369.3 5 D 13.6 4 K 11.2 4 HB 2.4 3 M 4.2 4 T 2.2 4 MG 358.0 5 , Joe Richards, Rory Atkins 2 Rory Atkins Age 30 Ht 185cm Wt 82kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.9 5 K 12.1 4 HB 7.9 5 M 4.6 4 T 1.9 4 MG 367.4 5 D 9.0 2 K 5.0 2 HB 4.0 3 M 0.3 1 T 2.7 4 MG 147.7 3 D 14.2 4 K 8.8 4 HB 5.4 4 M 4.0 4 T 1.2 3 MG 217.8 4 Gold Coast receives Collingwood's 2025 F1, PA's 2025 F1, PA R2(39) Collingwood receive Dan Houston 5 Dan Houston Age 27 Ht 186cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 18.2 5 K 11.8 4 HB 6.4 4 M 4.9 5 T 3.0 5 MG 289.2 4 D 17.6 4 K 11.6 4 HB 6.0 3 M 3.3 3 T 3.4 4 MG 319.9 5 D 16.6 4 K 12.4 5 HB 4.2 4 M 7.0 5 T 2.6 4 MG 279.8 5 , PA R4(58)
Matt Owies Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4	Carlton & Richmond	Trade	West Coast	Round 1 pick (3), Round 4 (63,68) to Carlton Round 1 Pick (14) to Richmond Round 1 Pick(12), R4 (73) to WCE Liam Baker 7 Liam Baker Age 26 Ht 173cm Wt 72kg Pos. D/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.7 4 K 7.8 3 HB 7.9 5 M 3.2 3 T 2.6 4 MG 222.2 3 D 14.6 4 K 6.8 3 HB 7.9 4 M 3.8 4 T 1.8 3 MG 191.9 3 D 14.4 4 K 6.2 3 HB 8.2 5 M 1.6 2 T 1.8 4 MG 224.2 4 to WCE Matt Owies to WCE
Isaac Cumming	GWS	UFA	Adelaide	End of Round 1 Compo (pick 21) to GWS
Josh Battle	St Kilda	UFA	Hawthorn	Round 1 Compo (Pick 8) to St.Kilda
Tom Campbell	St Kilda	DFA	Melbourne	No Compensation
Harry Perryman	GWS	UFA	Collingwood	Round 1 Compo (Pick 16) to GWS
Elliott Himmelberg	Adelaide	UFA	Gold Coast	No Compensation
Nick Haynes	GWS	UFA	Carlton	No Compensation
Alex Neal-Bullen	Melbourne	Trade	Adelaide	Round 2 Pick (28) to Melbourne
Jack Darling	West Coast	Trade	North Melbourne	Round 4 pick (68) to WCE
Jack Graham	Richmond	UFA	West Coast	End of Round 2 Compo (Pick 42) to Richmond

Brisbane Lions trade Harry Sharp and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Brisbane) to Melbourne for its 2024 Round 3 pick (currently 49) and its 2025 Round 3 pick (tied to Essendon).
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Collingwood get Houston and Pick 58 and give up: a future first round pick, Joe Richards to Port and John Noble to Gold Coast

Port get Jack Lukosius, Richards, Rory Atkins, picks 13, 29, 36 and 50 in this year’s draft while letting Houston go to Collingwood, their future first round pick, pick 39 in this year’s goes to Gold Coast and pick 58 goes to Collingwood.

Gold Coast get Noble, a future first round pick from each of Collingwood and Port Adelaide, and pick 39 (received from Port), while the Suns send Lukosius and Atkins, picks 13, 29 and 50 to Port Adelaide.
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St Kilda trade its Round Two selection (currently 27) to the Brisbane Lions for its Round Two selection (currently 32) and its Round Three selection (currently 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Three club trade approved.Richmond trade Liam Baker to the West Coast Eagles.West Coast Eagles trade its Round One selection (currently 3) and both its Round Four selections (currently 63 and 68) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft to Carlton.
Carlton trade Matthew Owies, its Round One selection (currently 12) and its Round Four selection (currently 73) to West Coast Eagles. Carlton trade its Round One selection (currently 14 ) to Richmond.
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Melbourne trade its two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 28 and 40), two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 46 and 54), its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 65) and its 2025 Round 1 selection to Essendon.
Essendon trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 9) and its 2025 Round 3 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively to Melbourne.
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Melbourne trade its 2025 Round 3 selection to the Adelaide Crows for its 2024 Round 3 selection (currently 46) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Brisbane trade its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 20) to Richmond for two 2024 Round 2 selections (currently 32 and 42) and two 2024 Round 3 selections (currently 43 and 45) in the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.
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Carlton trade its 2024 Round 2 selection (currently 34) and 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 66) to Brisbane for its 2024 Round 4 selection (currently 73) and 2025 Round 2 selection in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.
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Carlton trade its 2025 Round 1 selection and 2025 Round 2 selection (tied to Carlton) to Hawthorn for its 2024 Round 1 selection (currently 14) in the 2024 and 2025 Telstra AFL Drafts respectively.

Kangaroos4eva · 2024-10-19T14:33:49+1100

The Filth Wizard said:
Yeah, I really liked Clark in his draft year. Is strange that both he and JK were top 25 picks just two years ago and neither got time at their clubs.

I think we might be able to squeeze him if we do delist all of Harvey, Drury and Laz and I'm not sure I care to disapprove.

Unless we have an alternative specific DFA in mind, not that I can think of any I like or find suitable.

My Left Foote · 2024-10-19T14:44:26+1100

rickety said:
I've mentioned elsewhere previously, and not that it matters, he's mates with Corr and LMac and is just after a steady run of games. He felt like he'd have an ok game then get dropped. Frustrated at Melbourne.

Based on that he’d fit right in at North.

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-19T14:55:16+1100

Clarke's stats in the VFL this year were ok. Decent tackle numbers, always good for a goal or two a game...

That's more consistent output than say RHJ...

...Or Cooper... (as far as tackles + scoreboard impact are concerned)

But Konstanty was comparatively pretty consistent

The Filth Wizard · 2024-10-19T14:56:01+1100

Makeshift Park said:
Geez the career obits of Charlie Clarke in the WB subforum are pretty scathing

Aye, pretty damning.

Horace · 2024-10-19T15:00:53+1100

Lomas said:
There seems to be an established nibble pie divide:

https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/country-living/back-paddock/nibble-pies-are-a-western-way-of-speaking/news-story/185b8c93171e279373e6324e9b1ffcbf?amp

Perhaps we could call east of Allansford the Nibbie Pies Line?. If only, to post a link to this great song, (although not the original version).

Karanicolas · 2024-10-19T15:04:29+1100

Given that we have drafted in 3 ready-made senior players, wouldn’t we keep Pick 2 and select another potential star player?

Horace · 2024-10-19T15:08:04+1100

The Filth Wizard said:
Yeah, I really liked Clark in his draft year. Is strange that both he and JK were top 25 picks just two years ago and neither got time at their clubs.

I think we might be able to squeeze him if we do delist all of Harvey, Drury and Laz and I'm not sure I care to disapprove.

Good Grief.

nicko74 · 2024-10-19T15:09:31+1100

Key shinboner faces preseason setback

The 25-year-old suffered a cruel season-ending injury in March.

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Key shinboner

Horace · 2024-10-19T15:09:50+1100

Horace said:
Perhaps we could call east of Allansford the Nibbie Pies Line?. If only, to post a link to this great song, (although not the original version).

Forgot the song.

GoRoos2023 · 2024-10-19T15:11:19+1100

Karanicolas said:
Given that we have drafted in 3 ready-made senior players, wouldn’t we keep Pick 2 and select another potential star player?

Because we are desperately short of KPFs and annoyingly there are none in the draft elite enough to justify taking pick 2.

ferball · 2024-10-19T15:12:48+1100

Event Horizon said:
Giving up 25 and 44 is hardly "jeopardizing our draft hand". We have kept the prized pick 2 and gave away two ok picks that are easily replaceable. If we want to use our F2 we should be able to obtain a pick in the 20s from one of the teams with academy bids who find they don't want to lose the pick in matching a bid.

We could trade our future second for 23 or 24 from Richmond and even if we did that we could still trade our 2 to Richmond for 6 and 11. Say it was for 24, they'd still end up with 6 first round picks and 3 in the top 10!!! That's mental. Better than what we had last year.

Tho they might prefer to trade a FF for pick 23 tho because it gives them the first pick on the second night of the draft (24). They may get a (probably late) first in 2025 for that if someone wants it bad enough.

hilly · 2024-10-19T15:15:18+1100

GoRoos2023 said:
Because we are desperately short of KPFs and annoyingly there are none in the draft elite enough to justify taking pick 2.

Agreed. I don't think the acquistions change our approach here.

The Filth Wizard · 2024-10-19T15:15:24+1100

GoRoos2023 said:
Because we are desperately short of KPFs and annoyingly there are none in the draft elite enough to justify taking pick 2.

I don't think this is true. We're just short of young KPF's (and maybe only one) and this can be dealt with trading back into the draft.

hilly · 2024-10-19T15:16:14+1100

ferball said:
We could trade our future second for 23 or 24 from Richmond and even if we did that we could still trade our 2 to Richmond for 6 and 11. Say it was for 24, they'd still end up with 6 first round picks and 3 in the top 10!!! That's mental. Better than what we had last year.

Tho they might prefer to trade a FF for pick 23 tho because it gives them the first pick on the second night of the draft (24). They may get a (probably late) first in 2025 for that if someone wants it bad enough.

I doubt Richmond accepts that. Reckon our future 2nd is valued at about pick 30.

hilly · 2024-10-19T15:17:10+1100

The Filth Wizard said:
I don't think this is true. We're just short of young KPF's (and maybe only one) and this can be dealt with trading back into the draft.

Our 'young' KPFs are Larkey and if forward Comben. I reckon we are two short.

ferball · 2024-10-19T15:18:48+1100

Horace said:
Perhaps we could call east of Allansford the Nibbie Pies Line?. If only, to post a link to this great song, (although not the original version).

Took me till about the third time I read it to realise you lot were talking about nibble pies.

ferball · 2024-10-19T15:25:41+1100

hilly said:
I doubt Richmond accepts that. Reckon our future 2nd is valued at about pick 30.

Right now its worth pick 20. This years is 25 with a whole bunch of pps and compo picks before it. At this stage no PPs for next year and because LDU is a chance to leave as a FA there will be no band 1 (by this years standards) compo picks given. It may end up around the same spot or a couple earlier than 23/24. The AFL appears to be making NA and F/S players worth their round value which means they won't push other picks back as far either.

But yeah hopefully pick 30. We are due some real improvement.

Makeshift Park · 2024-10-19T15:27:52+1100

hilly said:
Our 'young' KPFs are Larkey and if forward Comben. I reckon we are two short.

Maley + 2024 first round draftee?

DocSholl · 2024-10-19T15:28:06+1100

Problem is there are so many academy players in next years draft. Our F2 could easily blow out even if/when we finish bottom four.

ferball · 2024-10-19T15:34:49+1100

DocSholl said:
Problem is there are so many academy players in next years draft. Our F2 could easily blow out even if/when we finish bottom four.

Isn't that why GC have got three r1 picks for next year - cos Academy and F/S picks will require a bid to be matched with a pick from the round where the bid is made?

Devington · 2024-10-19T15:37:40+1100

nicko74 said:
Key shinboner faces preseason setback

The 25-year-old suffered a cruel season-ending injury in March.

www.zerohanger.com

Key shinboner

Key POSITION shinboner.

Samsquanch · 2024-10-19T15:50:37+1100

Lomas said:
There seems to be an established nibble pie divide:

https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/country-living/back-paddock/nibble-pies-are-a-western-way-of-speaking/news-story/185b8c93171e279373e6324e9b1ffcbf?amp

Lomas, Lomas, Lomas... That was linked above. You have to get up early to beat ~~Giantroo~~ me.

But you are correct. There's definitely a divide, as confirmed by Horace. The term was never used east of Allansford (except for a few of the folks who might have worked at the Kraft factory that used to be there).

Samsquanch · 2024-10-19T15:53:27+1100

Disco Dew said:
I can think of a few

All the best Coop, Laz and maybe even Druze.

Samsquanch · 2024-10-19T15:56:39+1100

giantroo said:

Makes you wonder if the bullflogs might have used him to sweeten the handing over of 25 last week. Would a bonus player added to that deal have made it more palatable to the critics? Would North have accepted it?

Hypothetical of course, but it leaves me wondering.

DocSholl · 2024-10-19T16:13:18+1100

Samsquanch said:
Makes you wonder if the bullflogs might have used him to sweeten the handing over of 25 last week. Would a bonus player added to that deal have made it more palatable to the critics? Would North have accepted it?

Hypothetical of course, but it leaves me wondering.

We probably had the option of Konstanty and Clarke and went for the former

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