List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread

[DuckYeah]

lmac above Scott in the bnf?
****ing hell duck, there is absolutely no chance that happens.

What you got planned for your 6 months off? Lol

At right now? EEEZZZYYY… cricket season anyway.. dont post on here anyway. if I lose, i’ll pay. I could use an injection of cash. Baily wont get a vote for 8 weeks

 

[ChairmanZia]

The other issue with Reid, is that if he does sign a 1 year extension, the West Coast (senior) list will be absolutely gutted by the end of it.

Which will be just in time for compromised drafts.

Correct, those teams that have started bottoming out, they are royally f-ed, in other words, pretty much every team from 7 down are in some bother if they haven't started rebuild.

eagles crows hawk think they have already bottom and are on the way up, all i can say is, heheh let's see.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Has this been raised before regarding Scott? That's a pretty incredible statement. Who wrote it?

The club not "being rushed" on a new contract offer (despite having mountains of cap room) can only mean a few things.

- Bailey's manager is asking for overs, or there is a big gap in expectation. It would seem based on that article the club hasn't even offered him a new deal yet for it to be rejected though.

- It can't be list spots etc. He's not a candidate for delisting and there's 10 others that would come before him.

It must mean one of the following then:

- The club want to lowball him to an extent and don't deem him worthy of a long deal/large wage.

Or

- The club must be shopping him. Maybe with the view with McKercher, Duursma and maybe another mid this year, there's an honest conversation had/to be had about his long term future?

- By extension, Bailey wants to explore his options?

- Or both?



Anyway, a fairly big development for a senior player of ours.

That's pretty shit, scott has been a critical player for us since 2020, why are we not offering him good price?

 

[big_e]

The Swans promoted data expert Chris Keane this year and the highly-regarded operator is expected to run the club’s list management team long-term.

 

[The acurate one]

Cadman to north?

Was also dropped last week

Straight swap for Pink.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Ask anyone what has caused the shitshow of recent years and the letting go of experienced players is close to the top of every list.

You won't get much of an argument that moving on guys in their mid-30s is fine, nor delisting those who spend years on the list for a game here or there (or even less often).

But Bailey Scott and Cameron Zurhaar have stuck with us through the worst period the club's been through in half a century, I don't blame them for wanting to see if the grass really is greener on the other side.

In an environment where accepted wisdom is to pay overs for B-graders, it makes no sense at all to willingly let go of solid best 22 players who are in their mid-20s and with 100 games under their belt.

And if all we get in return are draft picks, the outcome is that we become a feeder club, in a perpetual state of rebuild, always three years away from finals.

Bailey Scott is precisely the sort of middle-of-the-road role player that lets the stars do their thing. Won't make many highlight reels is but immensely important to structure - set and forget for the next few years.

And if Cam Zurhaar says he wants to see improvement before re-signing and then he stays, the boost around the club will be massive. If he means he gets paid a hundred grand more than he "deserves", so be it. Worth every cent.

I guess the current view of the club under clarkson is that we don't want solid but brilliance.

Zoohaaaa and scott took us to a position where we are past the worst of bottoming, their jobs are done and for the benefit of both parties, they leave and we get in players suited to the next phase of footballing.

The two won't get any better and right now, we can maximise their value.

Also in anticipation for 2028, it's about stockpiling draft picks and getting players we need.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Straight swap for Pink.

With bailey Scott the sweetner

 

[The acurate one]

Poaching, not drafting: Collingwood set intentions for raid on Swan Logan McDonald​

Fremantle and West Coast have been jostling each other in the race for WA-born key forward Logan McDonald. Collingwood is hoping to spoil the party for both clubs as they join the race for McDonald’s signature.

@samlandsberger

less than 2 min read
June 26, 2024 - 6:57PM
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The Swans’ salary cap is tight but they remain confident of re-signing McDonald, who has booted 77 goals in 58 matches.

Hmm.

Had bloody Robbie Saggers managed to stay on an AFL list and play 58 games, he'd have kicked 81 goals in the same time frame. Cripes.

We need to keep an eye on this situation, as if I'm correct Robbie was delisted, so maybe the Swan could do the same with McDonalds.

We pick him up in the PSD.

You know I'm correct.

 

[My Left Foote]

Poaching, not drafting: Collingwood set intentions for raid on Swan Logan McDonald​

Fremantle and West Coast have been jostling each other in the race for WA-born key forward Logan McDonald. Collingwood is hoping to spoil the party for both clubs as they join the race for McDonald’s signature.

@samlandsberger

less than 2 min read
June 26, 2024 - 6:57PM
News Sport Network




Collingwood is seriously interested in leveraging key forward Logan McDonald out of Sydney.
The Magpies are among a host of clubs keeping tabs on McDonald’s contract negotiations with the Swans and have prioritised securing a young key forward.

Securing McDonald would ease the burden on the club’s injury-plagued forward line, which has been exposed in multiple games this season.

With Dan McStay coming off an ACL injury, Mason Cox now 33 and Brody Mihocek 31 the West Australian-born goalkicker would be the perfect addition.

The Swans’ salary cap is tight but they remain confident of re-signing McDonald, who has booted 77 goals in 58 matches.

Magpies president Jeff Browne told the Herald Sun earlier this year the club would aggressively target rival stars.

“We don’t intend to go to the bottom of the ladder, so we can never really rely on the draft,” Browne said.
“We have got to trade, like we did last year with those four players (Mitchell, McStay, Hill and Frampton) and then we pick up Oleg Markov, and this year we get Lachie Schultz.

“We have to trade to improve our side. For successful clubs who don’t want to drop down to the bottom, the draft doesn’t really work for them.”

The Magpies do not hold a first-round pick in this year’s draft owing to their trade for ex-Docker Lachie Schultz last year.

But the AFL is expected to allow clubs to trade draft picks two years in advance for the first time.
If that is brought in for this year’s trade period, which seems likely, then the Magpies would have their full suite of 2025 and 2026 draft picks available to satisfy a trade.

McDonald, 22, grew up a Collingwood supporter. While McDonald is from WA, he grew up in Dunsborough – which is 250km south of Perth.

The Swans’ list management team has done an excellent job re-signing their star players this season with Errol Gulden, Oliver Florent and Will Hayward all recommitting.

The Swans promoted data expert Chris Keane this year and the highly-regarded operator is expected to run the club’s list management team long-term.

Damn it, if only we’d drafted Logan McDonald ahead of Will Phillips then we could have been losing him to West Coast, Freo or Collingwood. Such a missed opportunity for pages and pages of, “What’s he worth?”

 

[King Corey]

Poaching, not drafting: Collingwood set intentions for raid on Swan Logan McDonald​

Fremantle and West Coast have been jostling each other in the race for WA-born key forward Logan McDonald. Collingwood is hoping to spoil the party for both clubs as they join the race for McDonald’s signature.

@samlandsberger

less than 2 min read
June 26, 2024 - 6:57PM
News Sport Network




Collingwood is seriously interested in leveraging key forward Logan McDonald out of Sydney.
The Magpies are among a host of clubs keeping tabs on McDonald’s contract negotiations with the Swans and have prioritised securing a young key forward.

Securing McDonald would ease the burden on the club’s injury-plagued forward line, which has been exposed in multiple games this season.

With Dan McStay coming off an ACL injury, Mason Cox now 33 and Brody Mihocek 31 the West Australian-born goalkicker would be the perfect addition.

The Swans’ salary cap is tight but they remain confident of re-signing McDonald, who has booted 77 goals in 58 matches.

Magpies president Jeff Browne told the Herald Sun earlier this year the club would aggressively target rival stars.

“We don’t intend to go to the bottom of the ladder, so we can never really rely on the draft,” Browne said.
“We have got to trade, like we did last year with those four players (Mitchell, McStay, Hill and Frampton) and then we pick up Oleg Markov, and this year we get Lachie Schultz.

“We have to trade to improve our side. For successful clubs who don’t want to drop down to the bottom, the draft doesn’t really work for them.”

The Magpies do not hold a first-round pick in this year’s draft owing to their trade for ex-Docker Lachie Schultz last year.

But the AFL is expected to allow clubs to trade draft picks two years in advance for the first time.
If that is brought in for this year’s trade period, which seems likely, then the Magpies would have their full suite of 2025 and 2026 draft picks available to satisfy a trade.

McDonald, 22, grew up a Collingwood supporter. While McDonald is from WA, he grew up in Dunsborough – which is 250km south of Perth.

The Swans’ list management team has done an excellent job re-signing their star players this season with Errol Gulden, Oliver Florent and Will Hayward all recommitting.

The Swans promoted data expert Chris Keane this year and the highly-regarded operator is expected to run the club’s list management team long-term.

Ever hear the Banjo Patterson poem - "The Capless Man"?

 

[Sphynx]

Poaching, not drafting: Collingwood set intentions for raid on Swan Logan McDonald​

Fremantle and West Coast have been jostling each other in the race for WA-born key forward Logan McDonald. Collingwood is hoping to spoil the party for both clubs as they join the race for McDonald’s signature.

@samlandsberger

less than 2 min read
June 26, 2024 - 6:57PM
News Sport Network




Collingwood is seriously interested in leveraging key forward Logan McDonald out of Sydney.
The Magpies are among a host of clubs keeping tabs on McDonald’s contract negotiations with the Swans and have prioritised securing a young key forward.

Securing McDonald would ease the burden on the club’s injury-plagued forward line, which has been exposed in multiple games this season.

With Dan McStay coming off an ACL injury, Mason Cox now 33 and Brody Mihocek 31 the West Australian-born goalkicker would be the perfect addition.

The Swans’ salary cap is tight but they remain confident of re-signing McDonald, who has booted 77 goals in 58 matches.

Magpies president Jeff Browne told the Herald Sun earlier this year the club would aggressively target rival stars.

“We don’t intend to go to the bottom of the ladder, so we can never really rely on the draft,” Browne said.
“We have got to trade, like we did last year with those four players (Mitchell, McStay, Hill and Frampton) and then we pick up Oleg Markov, and this year we get Lachie Schultz.

“We have to trade to improve our side. For successful clubs who don’t want to drop down to the bottom, the draft doesn’t really work for them.”

The Magpies do not hold a first-round pick in this year’s draft owing to their trade for ex-Docker Lachie Schultz last year.

But the AFL is expected to allow clubs to trade draft picks two years in advance for the first time.
If that is brought in for this year’s trade period, which seems likely, then the Magpies would have their full suite of 2025 and 2026 draft picks available to satisfy a trade.

McDonald, 22, grew up a Collingwood supporter. While McDonald is from WA, he grew up in Dunsborough – which is 250km south of Perth.

The Swans’ list management team has done an excellent job re-signing their star players this season with Errol Gulden, Oliver Florent and Will Hayward all recommitting.

The Swans promoted data expert Chris Keane this year and the highly-regarded operator is expected to run the club’s list management team long-term.

Going to end in tears for someone like Collingwood.

Imagine having no picks for the next 2 seasons and you have a bomb of a year.

 

[perplexed]

Hmm.

Had bloody Robbers Saggers managed to stay on an AFL list and play 58 games, he'd have kicked 81 goals in the same time frame. Cripes.

We need to keep an eye on this situation, as if I'm correct Robbie was delisted, so maybe the Swan could do the same with McDonalds.

We pick him up in the PSD.

You know I'm correct.

Yep. Don't know much about this Saggers fellow. But 77 goals in 58 games as a permanent forward for Sydney over the last few years is rather sh!t.

 

[shintemaster]

Going to end in tears for someone like Collingwood.

Imagine having no picks for the next 2 seasons and you have a bomb of a year.

Let em burn.

 

[The acurate one]

Yep. Don't know much about this Saggers fellow. But 77 goals in 58 games as a permanent forward for Sydney over the last few years is rather sh!t.

Lol yes it sure is, Robbie played 2 games for the Swan and 3 for us, delisted twice. He did kick 7 goals during his 5 game career.
This McDonalds hype is just plain rubbish. He's better than CCJ , but not by much.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Going to end in tears for someone like Collingwood.

Imagine having no picks for the next 2 seasons and you have a bomb of a year.

They very likely will because their list is aging and not on topnotch form.

Ouch time over the next few years for melb, pies, lions, cats, port. They will get squeezed out by bulldogs and gc as the two has a really talented list, with the right coaching they can push past the aforementioned teams.

 

[giantroo]

 

[giantroo]

 

[Sphynx]

I imagine the 3 year deal got it over the line.

That’s a long time for someone who hasn’t played any football above school football in 7 years.

 

[DuckYeah]

I imagine the 3 year deal got it over the line.

That’s a long time for someone who hasn’t played any football above school football in 7 years.

Good by the club to say no to a 3 year deal.. how many lists spots do Fold Coast have? Seems as though they have an abundance

 

[My Left Foote]

I imagine the 3 year deal got it over the line.

That’s a long time for someone who hasn’t played any football above school football in 7 years.

Yes, it’s 4 and 5 deals for us and they are specifically reserved for discards from other clubs.

 

[Sphynx]

Good by the club to say no to a 3 year deal.. how many lists spots do Fold Coast have? Seems as though they have an abundance

It’s a Cat B spot.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Lol wtf he chose suns

Back to the drawing board with cat b rookies

Cross coders, the Irish etc

 

[ChairmanZia]

Damn we missed out on a star player...if we have a cricket team that is.

 

[koshari]

I hope your Centrelink cheque has cleared by the b&f count

Jokes on you, centerlink havnt paid with cheques for years.

 

[DuckYeah]

Yes, it’s 4 and 5 deals for us and they are specifically reserved for discards from other clubs.

Finbar will end up better