List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread

[Trent the flight Steward]

I see in this years draft there's a plethora of mids, do you trade pick 1 to Adelaide for thillithorpe and their first? You get a fwd to team with larkey. Or do you go after Max king

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Max King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

with pick 1?
I don't think you need any more mids to be honest

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I see in this years draft there's a plethora of mids, do you trade pick 1 to Adelaide for thillithorpe and their first? You get a fwd to team with larkey. Or do you go after Max king with pick 1?
I don't think you need any more mids to be honest

We probably need 1 more but they need to versatile in being able to play another position. Finn O'Sullivan or Lalor would be a good fit for us imo.

Outside of that, it's a Key Forward and Small Forward.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Yeah you are right but the discussion is about other clubs drafting in the 2nd round compared to ours and not many clubs are any better.

I don't think Carlton are better or worse than us if you limit it to 2nd round picks taken (TDK is a good hit for them), but if you look through their team, they have done a lot better our of trading their 2nd (and later) round picks. They have also done far better out of the PSSD, MSD, Rookie draft etc.

 

[pupstar]

I don't think Carlton are better or worse than us if you limit it to 2nd round picks taken (TDK is a good hit for them), but if you look through their team, they have done a lot better our of trading their 2nd (and later) round picks. They have also done far better out of the PSSD, MSD, Rookie draft etc.

Yes i would agree to most of that but as i said i was responding to posts saying that our 2nd round picks are terrible But if you find the time to actually look you will realize there no worse than most teams. Its a myth we are terrible at it we are no worse than most when it comes to 2nd round picks.

 

[New_Roo]

But we are not really in the window at the moment or the finals for that matter.

I agree if we are a top 4 side, we give 2 firsts.

Give two firsts for who? Houston? Come on please. He would be great for us, but won't be worth our first let alone a couple


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[Better Loosen Up]

Give two firsts for who? Houston? Come on please. He would be great for us, but won't be worth our first let alone a couple


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He would be worth a mid to late first imo

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Give two firsts for who? Houston? Come on please. He would be great for us, but won't be worth our first let alone a couple


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In fairness he said "if we were a top 4 team". In that situation you might if you thought he complemented us, they might be late in the round.

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

I see in this years draft there's a plethora of mids, do you trade pick 1 to Adelaide for thillithorpe and their first? You get a fwd to team with larkey. Or do you go after Max king with pick 1?
I don't think you need any more mids to be honest

You would do it in a heartbeat if we lived in a fantasy land where the Crows would entertain such an offer. But in reality they would be telling us to GTFOOH.

 

[Shinboner1]

Give two firsts for who? Houston? Come on please. He would be great for us, but won't be worth our first let alone a couple


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Come on mate. He'd be worth the first on the north tax alone.

 

[New_Roo]

He would be worth a mid to late first imo

Yes agree similar to Dawson but think Crows managed to get away with only 18 but Houston is still contracted so be 10-15 would think


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[ferball]

thank Christ you are no where near an actual footy department.

We need to get Zia a job at *.

 

[Masked Avenger]

Here's the list:

AFL Draft Pick Value Comparison - All Time - Draftguru

www.draftguru.com.au

That list also confirms you trade out of the top 5 at your peril.

Splitting picks advocates take note.

 

[FlyHigh18]

paraphrasing but some geelong bloke recently said when drafting they prioritise effort and footy hunger over skill and talent. obviosuly not that it's not needed, just the order of importance.

think i'm starting to believe it.

all the talent in the world can go in the bin if the kid doesn't live and breathe footy.

 

[dus]

Can’t see us splitting our first. Unless it’s to end up with Trainor and change. It would be risky though and would need a buyer. Wouldn’t trade out of the top 7.

Would like to see us bundle our second and F2 into the first round this year though for the right price.

F1 should be on the table for the right price also. We should be anticipating to start our climb next year, and getting another kid early would help while LDU etc hit their prime.

Unfortunately, we don’t have much chop in terms of expendable players / worth something, to sweeten any deals.

Personally, I’d let Zurhaar walk, if it was going to result in band 1 compo.

 

[shinboner magic]

 

[chubbspeterson]

Really? We've seen the quality of mid-twenties players who will come to us over the last couple of years. We have been paying up for fringe players.

This is one of the last drafts before Tassie come in and it looks very deep. I would much rather take another four or five at the draft.

Yep totally agree. We're not going to get anybody that's quality right now.
Use UFA (Isaac Cumming?) as no draft capital or a F3/F4 for a Konstanty or a F2/F3 exchange for a Gruz perhaps, otherwise I don't see that much out there. Perhaps a salary dump trade from another team is another option.
I want 4-5 picks in a draft this deep and there are better players like Mac Andrew, Bergman or Callaghan OOC end of 2026 that perhaps you could target but I'd probably think they stay at their clubs.

 

[Merlin007]

That list also confirms you trade out of the top 5 at your peril.

Splitting picks advocates take note.

I'm with you - more importantly, I think the club is too.

Lots of people saying with a deep draft, we need to trade in from next year, but assuming most of the industry is of the same view, it's not clear who's going to trade out

 

[chubbspeterson]

That list also confirms you trade out of the top 5 at your peril.

Splitting picks advocates take note.

I doubt we split pick 2. Pick 3 slide to Crows 5 is about all I'd consider.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

They're not even bothering with LDU which is good.

I'd be interested to kick the tyres on Braeden Campbell this year. Can't seem to crack that side with any regularity.

 

[Sphynx]

They're not even bothering with LDU which is good.

I'd be interested to kick the tyres on Braeden Campbell this year. Can't seem to crack that side with any regularity.

Because he's not very good.

He's drifting towards Dylan Stephens territory.

Interesting you don't hear the media give the Swans the same amount of shit that they give Phillips for someone taken 2 picks later.

McDonald and Campbell are a horrible return for Pick 4 & 5 when looking at neighboring drafts.

They are just fortunate they struck the lottery with Gulden that year.

The following year those picks are Daicos & Mac Andrew, 2 years prior it's Rozee & Max King.

 

[giantroo]

 

[ohmygewd]

Yes i would agree to most of that but as i said i was responding to posts saying that our 2nd round picks are terrible But if you find the time to actually look you will realize there no worse than most teams. Its a myth we are terrible at it we are no worse than most when it comes to 2nd round picks.

Since the start of our rebuild, the 2nd rounders look to be solid (updated):

Year	Pick	Player	Current Team	Games Since Drafted	Year	Pick	Player	Current Team	Games Since Drafted
2019​	-	-	-	-	2010​	-	B.Scott Era	-	-
2​	31​	Charlie Comben	North Melbourne	23	2​	40​	Tom Curran	Delist 16	0
2​	34​	Jack Mahony	Gold Coast	44	2012​
2​	35​	Flynn Perez	Delist 2023	24	2​	37​	Ben Jacobs	Retired	64
2020​	-	-	-	-	2​	41​	Mason Wood	St. Kilda	65
2​	36​	Charlie Lazzaro	North Melbourne	39	2013​	-	-	-	-
2​	42​	Phoenix Spicer	Delist 2023	12	2​	30​	Trent Dumont	Traded 21	113
2021​	-	-	-	-	2014​	-	-	-	-
2​	22​	Josh Goater	North Melbourne	12	2​	25​	Daniel Nielson	Delist 18	7
2​	35​	Paul Curtis	North Melbourne	53	2​	36​	Ed Vickers-Willis	Delist 20	21
2​	38​	Miller Bergman	North Melbourne	14	2015​	-	-	-	-
2022​	-	-	-	-	2​	31​	Ryan Clarke	Traded 18	40
2​	26​	Brayden George	North Melbourne	0	2​	33​	Mitchell Hibberd	Delist 18	4
2023​					2016​	-	-	-	-
N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	0	2​	34​	Declan Watson	Delist 19	0
-	-	-	-	-	2​	36​	Josh Williams	Delist 18	2
-	-	-	-	-	2017​
-	-	-	-	-	2​	23​	Will Walker	Delist 21	6
-	-	-	-	-	2018​	-	-	-	-
-	-	-	-	-	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	0

 

[Passmore]

Run out of crap to talk about this year, we’ll move on to 2025.

 

[ChairmanZia]

Give two firsts for who? Houston? Come on please. He would be great for us, but won't be worth our first let alone a couple


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if he was ooc then it's less but also for a player like him, if we are in the window then it's in the high 10s

 

[ohmygewd]

But we are not really in the window at the moment or the finals for that matter.

I agree if we are a top 4 side, we give 2 firsts.

On Chad Warner's current form, he is worth 2 firsts...Dan Houston?